Israel

[HitRed]

Jerusalem Post news

https://www.jpost.com/business-and-inno ... cle-818864

[saxitoxin]

The Australian Broadcasting Corporation is now confirming what the Entity and its Dick Cheney/Kamala Harris backers have been denouncing as disinformation for nearly a year: it was the so-called "Israeli Defense Forces" itself that mass-killed Israeli civilians during a panicked and bumbled response to the October 7 military offensive of the Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades against the occupation forces.

... the Israeli military is coming under increasing pressure to reveal just how many of their own citizens were killed by Israeli soldiers, pilots and police in the confusion of the Hamas attack on southern Israeli communities.

Survivors and relatives have been asking not just "what went wrong", but whether the military invoked the controversial — and supposedly rescinded — "Hannibal Directive".

Panicked, operating without their normal command structure and unable to coordinate with ground forces, they fired on vehicles returning to Gaza, knowing they were likely carrying hostages.

Air force pilots described to Yedioth Ahronot newspaper the firing of "tremendous" amounts of ammunition on October 7 at people attempting to cross the border between Gaza and Israel.

"Twenty-eight fighter helicopters shot over the course of the day all of the ammunition in their bellies, in renewed runs to rearm. We are talking about hundreds of 30-millimetre cannon mortars and Hellfire missiles," reporter Yoav Zeitoun said.

Bergman's investigation found 70 vehicles were destroyed by Israeli aircraft and tanks to prevent them being driven into Gaza, killing everyone inside.

"It is not clear at this point how many of the abductees were killed due to the activation of this [Hannibal] order on October 7," he wrote.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-07/ ... /104224430

More lies exposed from a serial liar, and still people will believe every word across their forked tongues.

Support for the cause of Palestinian Liberation against these monsters is the morality test of our age.

[Pack Rat]

Remember October 7th!

HAMAS started this war with rape, looting and murdering civilians.



...and now Saxi is yelling foul?

show

[Votanic]

Remember October 7th!

HAMAS started this war with rape, looting and murdering civilians.



...and now Saxi is yelling foul?

show

Enough with these bullshit 'start date' declarations.
Everyone knows all the 'wars' since Palestine was transfered to Israel without consent of the Palestinians are just various phases of the same long-standing war.
israel's money will only buy the biased loyalty of tools like Pee-rat.

[saxitoxin]

Remember October 7th!

The day the IDF panicked and started spraying their own citizens with auto cannon fire from Apache gunships? Then tried to say Israelis turned into warm piles of red goo were from 7.62mm rounds from Palestinian rifles? That's what I'm doing.

[kentington]

I find this topic to be intriguing. It is polarizing in ways we don’t expect. Party lines are erased in this area.

Honestly, I think the whole thing is sad. This is another instance of governments top dogs making choices that poorly affect its citizens. This is happening with both groups of people.

But who is anyone in the US to condemn the Israelis? Do the natives in the US now have their most desirable lands back? Or did they still get the bad left overs?

I don’t mean to pose that thought to detract from the lost lives or anything like that. I wonder if there is a place the Palestinians or Israelis could be moved to that would end this. I think no matter the resolution you will have citizens’ lives wrecked.

[saxitoxin]

I find this topic to be intriguing. It is polarizing in ways we don’t expect. Party lines are erased in this area.

Honestly, I think the whole thing is sad. This is another instance of governments top dogs making choices that poorly affect its citizens. This is happening with both groups of people.

But who is anyone in the US to condemn the Israelis? Do the natives in the US now have their most desirable lands back? Or did they still get the bad left overs?

I don’t mean to pose that thought to detract from the lost lives or anything like that. I wonder if there is a place the Palestinians or Israelis could be moved to that would end this. I think no matter the resolution you will have citizens’ lives wrecked.

Every Indian on every reservation has been able to vote in U.S. elections since 1924.

If every Arab in the West Bank and Gaza could vote in Israeli elections you wouldn't hear one more word out of me on this topic ever again.

[Votanic]

Remember October 7th!

The day the IDF panicked and started spraying their own citizens with auto cannon fire from Apache gunships? Then tried to say Israelis turned into warm piles of red goo were from 7.62mm rounds from Palestinian rifles? That's what I'm doing.

Great sig quote, saxi, …but of course, it’s even better read in context.
https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=241362#p5334101
(I'm keeping this post link on speed-dial. Just think of it as a context-dependent sig line)

And yes, I know my response will stay long after saxi changes his sig, ...but I'm fine with that.

[Pack Rat]

STFU Votanic!

Just make Saxi his sandwich and he will call you a good dog.

Sad to see Votanic being a lap dog of a anti-semetic guy who has a curious relationship with a gender bending poster.

[saxitoxin]

IT'S A BAD DAY TO BE A ZIONIST PUPPET!

It's exposed that the Zionist Entity has been forging "Hamas documents" and releasing them to the media to manipulate public opinion ... the documents purport to show "Hamas" discussing using "human shields." In fact, the documents were actually invented by IDF PsyOps staff and passed off as "captured Hamas files."

https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/b1npigi3a

Meanwhile, the Entity's former Prime Minister, Yair Lapid, gets Community Noted into oblivion on X trying to spread more Zionist lies to the Entity's mindless and easily confused followers.

https://x.com/yairlapid/status/1832072993054363853

Finally, a massive protest in London yesterday as hundreds of thousands took to the streets to oppose the Zionist Entity's racism and genocide against the defenseless Palestinian people...

[kentington]

If every Arab in the West Bank and Gaza could vote in Israeli elections you wouldn't hear one more word out of me on this topic ever again.

Fair enough. I don’t think that will ever happen. I don’t think the two cultures/religions will ever be really peaceable towards each other.

The world is split on which side to support/endorse, so I don’t think there is going to be a real rescue for the Palestinian people.

I am trying to remain as neutral as possible, because I don’t trust most media outlets. They have all been caught lying/misleading/deceiving for various reasons.

I do think the loss of lives is worth intervention though. I care more about that than what land people get. I would be for helping either people group to a new separate location with natural resources and infrastructure. How can that happen and where? No idea.

The other problem is I think for a lot of them loss of life is unimportant and only the location matters.

[HitRed]

Hamas leaves, peace treaty, Israel and world supported Marshall Plan.

[Dukasaur]

I am trying to remain as neutral as possible, because I don’t trust most media outlets. They have all been caught lying/misleading/deceiving for various reasons.

I'm just going to interject here (and this is not really about Israel) because one the one hand you seem very cynical and on the other hand you do seem genuinely interested in the truth.

Media outlets should not be uncritically accepted as fountains of truth. They do sometimes lie, and more often tell the truth but with a definite bias. As do we all. But while media sources are not much better than the average person at telling the whole truth, they are not worse, either. Just as you can't accept uncritically the opinions of your drinking buddies down at the Blunderbuss and Pheasant, you can't uncritically accept Dan Rather's opinions, either, but neither should you dismiss them out of hand.

Media sources are based on primary sources, and while in times gone by those were difficult to uncover, in the Internet age you can very often check out the primary sources. If someone tells you that Sri Lanka has secretly built a nuclear arsenal, or whatever, it is possible to download the actual budget documents of the Sri Lankan government and see if there are mysterious expenditures that might add up to a secret nuclear program, or not.

[HitRed]

September 8, 24 Adoration

Message from Jesus



I set with you here where you sit in front of me now. I am the Lord God of all things here on earth and in heaven. I know you very well. My heart pours out love and mercy over you. You are mine and shall be always. I pour out my mercy and kindness on the world. Search for me in the little things like the birds singing. I created them to praise my name. I am the Great I Am of old from times past and am the Great I Am today. Seek me always in the depths of your heart, I am there with you. I have power so great humans cannot fathom my power. I am greater than all the forces of the universe and still so powerful. My light shines to all who seek me in the stillness. I am the Great King of heaven and earth; all sit at my feet. I am who I say I am.

[jusplay4fun]

I am trying to remain as neutral as possible, because I don’t trust most media outlets. They have all been caught lying/misleading/deceiving for various reasons.

I'm just going to interject here (and this is not really about Israel) because one the one hand you seem very cynical and on the other hand you do seem genuinely interested in the truth.

Media outlets should not be uncritically accepted as fountains of truth. They do sometimes lie, and more often tell the truth but with a definite bias. As do we all. But while media sources are not much better than the average person at telling the whole truth, they are not worse, either. Just as you can't accept uncritically the opinions of your drinking buddies down at the Blunderbuss and Pheasant, you can't uncritically accept Dan Rather's opinions, either, but neither should you dismiss them out of hand.

Media sources are based on primary sources, and while in times gone by those were difficult to uncover, in the Internet age you can very often check out the primary sources. If someone tells you that Sri Lanka has secretly built a nuclear arsenal, or whatever, it is possible to download the actual budget documents of the Sri Lankan government and see if there are mysterious expenditures that might add up to a secret nuclear program, or not.

Dan Rather has been essentially "Off the Air" (of CBS and Mainstream Media) since 2006:

Rather left the anchor desk in 2005 following the Killian documents controversy, in which he presented unauthenticated documents in a news report on President George W. Bush's Vietnam War–era service in the National Guard. He continued to work with CBS until 2006, when he was abruptly fired.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Rather

[Votanic]

STFU Votanic!

Just make Saxi his sandwich and he will call you a good dog.

Sad to see Votanic being a lap dog of a anti-semetic guy who has a curious relationship with a gender bending poster.

Jeez Louise, ...what is it with you and the sandwich-making??

[saxitoxin]

So today, to recap, we got confirmation that 28 Apache gunships fired 32,000 High Explosive rounds at Israeli citizens on Oct. 7.

Apparently 800 Israelis were killed between the IDF and the Qassam brigades.

What percent did the Israelis kill themselves, realistically?

80%? 90%?

Seems like if Israel wants to stop Israelis from being killed, they should be bombing the government quarter of Tell Aviv instead of Gaza.

[Dukasaur]

Dan Rather has been essentially "Off the Air" (of CBS and Mainstream Media) since 2006:

Whoever his replacement is.

I don't watch TV often enough to know the names of any of the personalities nowadays.

[mookiemcgee]

Dan Rather has been essentially "Off the Air" (of CBS and Mainstream Media) since 2006:

Whoever his replacement is.

I don't watch TV often enough to know the names of any of the personalities nowadays.

CBS still has a news division, but it's not what it once was. ABC/NBC/FOX all have gone the route of having multiple tertiary outlets for news in addition to having a national news desk and CBS kinda went a different direction (and honestly their parent company is in serious trouble right now due lack of adoption of their 'Paramount +' subscription business. They still own the 60 minutes brand and do continue to put a news product on the market, but have effectively conceded their place in the news world to other networks. In some ways their lack of investment in having multiple news only channels ect has left them a being more centrist than the bulk of the rest of US news product.

Anyway, their current main anchor is dis chick

[Votanic]

Dan Rather has been essentially "Off the Air" (of CBS and Mainstream Media) since 2006:

Whoever his replacement is.

I don't watch TV often enough to know the names of any of the personalities nowadays.

CBS still has a news division, but it's not what it once was. ABC/NBC/FOX all have gone the route of having multiple tertiary outlets for news in addition to having a national news desk and CBS kinda went a different direction (and honestly their parent company is in serious trouble right now due lack of adoption of their 'Paramount +' subscription business. They still own the 60 minutes brand and do continue to put a news product on the market, but have effectively conceded their place in the news world to other networks. In some ways their lack of investment in having multiple news only channels ect has left them a being more centrist than the bulk of the rest of US news product.

Anyway, their current main anchor is dis chick

Even her blouse gives uneven coverage.

[jusplay4fun]

Dan Rather has been essentially "Off the Air" (of CBS and Mainstream Media) since 2006:

Whoever his replacement is.

I don't watch TV often enough to know the names of any of the personalities nowadays.

CBS still has a news division, but it's not what it once was. ABC/NBC/FOX all have gone the route of having multiple tertiary outlets for news in addition to having a national news desk and CBS kinda went a different direction (and honestly their parent company is in serious trouble right now due lack of adoption of their 'Paramount +' subscription business. They still own the 60 minutes brand and do continue to put a news product on the market, but have effectively conceded their place in the news world to other networks. In some ways their lack of investment in having multiple news only channels ect has left them a being more centrist than the bulk of the rest of US news product.

Anyway, their current main anchor is dis chick

Do you mean Norah O'Donnell? She is leaving soon, btw.

AND btw #2, Norah is a gorgeous woman, despite Vot's opinion on her photo above.

“CBS Evening News” host and managing editor Norah O’Donnell will leave the anchor desk following the 2024 election and transition to a senior correspondent role within the company, the network announced Tuesday.

O’Donnell, who recently marked five years behind the anchor desk for the evening news show, said it was time for a change after 12 years as an anchor for CBS News.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4801180-norah-odonnell-stepping-down-cbs-evening-news-host/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CCBS%20Evening%20News%E2%80%9D%20host%20and,company%2C%20the%20network%20announced%20Tuesday.

[bigtoughralf]

Today Israel has bombed a school being used as a UN shelter for displaced people, killing six UN staff members including the manager of the shelter:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0912/1469632-gaza/

[Pack Rat]

Today Israel has bombed a school being used as a UN shelter for displaced people, killing six UN staff members including the manager of the shelter:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0912/1469632-gaza/

War is HELL! Israel is learning from Russia on how to flatten cities and attacking civilians. Funny Ralf, did you howl when Russia was dropping barrel bombs on Syrian civilians? Or hitting schools, hospitals and apartment buildings in Ukraine?

[bigtoughralf]

Oh look, another round of 'you disapprove of Israel genociding Palestinians therefore you must support Russia's invasion of Ukraine'

Do you think it's okay that the Israeli military just bombed a Palestinian school, killing 6 UN aid workers, or do you think that's not okay?

[Votanic]

Oh look, another round of 'you disapprove of Israel genociding Palestinians therefore you must support Russia's invasion of Ukraine'

Do you think it's okay that the Israeli military just bombed a Palestinian school, killing 6 UN aid workers, or do you think that's not okay?

What are you gonna do?
Piss-rat has a small brain and short attention span.

IDEA: Every time you point out Israel's atrocities also point out some of Russia's (I think most Israelis came from Russia, actually.) That might stop the rat from his repetitive spam posts, ...maybe.

ANOTHER IDEA: Also point out some of China's atrocities. That might help tone down your 'Manchurian Candidate' public image.