Trump guilty of all 34 counts!

[saxitoxin]

Really crazy to wonder what the jurors were thinking, knowing that their names and home addresses will be "accidentally leaked" on January 22, 2025. And since conviction required unanimity, each juror's vote is already known. A lifetime of new and unique experiences are coming their way, all just to render a conviction on a crime that -- maybe -- will land Trump two years' probation and a fine.

Maybe they all have second homes in Venezuela they were planning on moving to anyway? Dunno.

I know you find it unbelievable, but some people actually do the right thing just because it's the right thing.

Allying oneself with the forces of perpetual war, violence, death and misery is not "the right thing."

then why are you doing it?

[saxitoxin]

It just keeps backfiring!

The Trump campaign said Friday it nearly doubled its single-day fundraising record after a New York jury found Donald Trump guilty in his criminal hush money trial.

The Republican’s campaign said it raised $34.8 million from small-dollar donors in less than seven hours following the historic verdict Thursday afternoon that convicted the former president of 34 counts of falsifying business records.

Nearly 30% of those donors were brand new to the Trump donation site WinRed, senior campaign advisors Chris LaCivita and Susie Wiles said in a press release.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/31/trump-c ... ecord.html

[pmac666]

Giving your track record, im super happy youre so excited.

And how much of that goes to E. Jean Carroll?

[mookiemcgee]

It just keeps backfiring!

The Trump campaign said Friday it nearly doubled its single-day fundraising record after a New York jury found Donald Trump guilty in his criminal hush money trial.

The Republican’s campaign said it raised $34.8 million from small-dollar donors in less than seven hours following the historic verdict Thursday afternoon that convicted the former president of 34 counts of falsifying business records.

Nearly 30% of those donors were brand new to the Trump donation site WinRed, senior campaign advisors Chris LaCivita and Susie Wiles said in a press release.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/31/trump-c ... ecord.html

I have gotten three text message solicitations to fund raise for Trump since the verdict came out yesterday, I've replied to all three that I will deposit funds directly into his commissary to prevent misuse

[Pack Rat]

Very kind of you Mookie. Candy bars go a long way to appease the inmates that might have plans for Trump.

Instead of buying off porn stars....Bubba.

[pmac666]

Its all so very predictebale. lol

[saxitoxin]

Its all so very predictebale. lol

What a dumb take. The fundraising can be inferentially verified by the FEC 48 hour reports.

[saxitoxin]

Harris: Trump Still Beating Biden

A new poll by the nonpartisan, independent Harris Survey (which has a perfect 3/3 rating from 538) is the first post-"conviction" survey and shows no change; Trump still beating Biden.

https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/642d10a ... 202024.pdf

Dennis Quaid Switches Vote to Trump

Meanwhile, Dennis Quaid --- who voted for Clinton and Biden in 16 and 20 --- has announced he's changing his vote to Trump in the aftermath of the NY court decision.

CNN Legal Analyst Ellie Honig Denounces Case

And, the liberal attorney and Biden donor Ellie Honig, CNN legal analyst, pens a new column in New York Magazine in which he denounces the verdict.

Both of these things can be true at once: The jury did its job, and this case was an ill-conceived, unjustified mess. Sure, victory is the great deodorant, but a guilty verdict doesn’t make it all pure and right. Plenty of prosecutors have won plenty of convictions in cases that shouldn’t have been brought in the first place. “But they won” is no defense to a strained, convoluted reach unless the goal is to “win,” now, by any means necessary and worry about the credibility of the case and the fallout later.

The charges against Trump are obscure, and nearly entirely unprecedented. In fact, no state prosecutor — in New York, or Wyoming, or anywhere — has ever charged federal election laws as a direct or predicate state crime, against anyone, for anything. None. Ever. Even putting aside the specifics of election law, the Manhattan DA itself almost never brings any case in which falsification of business records is the only charge.

In these key respects, the charges against Trump aren’t just unusual. They’re bespoke, seemingly crafted individually for the former president and nobody else.

“No man is above the law.” It’s become cliché, but it’s an important point, and it’s worth pausing to reflect on the importance of this core principle. But it’s also meaningless pablum if we unquestioningly tolerate (or worse, celebrate) deviations from ordinary process and principle to get there.

https://www.removepaywall.com/article/current

[pmac666]

Harris: Trump Still Beating Biden

A new poll by the nonpartisan, independent Harris Survey (which has a perfect 3/3 rating from 538) is the first post-"conviction" survey and shows no change; Trump still beating Biden.

looool



Tell Saxi, are you really that dense or is it all for the good, Putin serving fascist thingy?

[pmac666]

Trump in 2016: “She shouldn’t be allowed to run...If she wins, it would create an unprecedented constitutional crisis. In that situation, we could very well have a sitting president under felony indictment and, ultimately, a criminal trial. It would grind government to a halt.”

We agree Donald. lol

[pmac666]

Harris: Trump Still Beating Biden

A new poll by the nonpartisan, independent Harris Survey (which has a perfect 3/3 rating from 538) is the first post-"conviction" survey and shows no change; Trump still beating Biden.

OMG hahahahahhahaha.

Harvard is lending its name to a methodologically flawed poll that often promotes a right-wing political agenda.

It’s no secret that the Harvard-Harris Poll is inaccurate and misleading. A number of experts from both sides of the aisle — including statistician Nate R. Silver, Democratic pollster Geoff D. Garin ’75, Republican pollster Chris Wilson, liberal journalist Josh M.J. Marshall, and conservative law professor Ilya Somin — have criticized the survey. FiveThirtyEight, a public opinion blog that aggregates political polls, recently ranked Harris Insights & Analytics in the bottom 50 percent of American pollsters.

Since 2017 — when Trump sympathizer Mark J. Penn ’76 became one of the poll’s co-directors — the poll has relied on leading questions. Unlike a proper survey, which asks unbiased questions in order to collect accurate and reliable information, Harvard-Harris poll questions tend to align with right-wing narratives and prompt respondents to lean toward conservative choices.

https://www.thecrimson.com/column/forgi ... /bodnick-/

Alone to think there could be a reliabale poll not even 24h after the verdict.

[Votanic]

Actually, it's Real-World situations and problems that...

...tend to align with right-wing narratives and prompt respondents to lean toward conservative choices.

[saxitoxin]

Harris: Trump Still Beating Biden

A new poll by the nonpartisan, independent Harris Survey (which has a perfect 3/3 rating from 538) is the first post-"conviction" survey and shows no change; Trump still beating Biden.

looool



Tell Saxi, are you really that dense or is it all for the good, Putin serving fascist thingy?

ITT PMac falls for the simplest, hands-down dumbest, parlor trick psychology out there -

Inoculation theory is a social psychological/communication theory that explains how an attitude or belief can be made resistant to persuasion or influence, in analogy to how a body gains resistance to disease. The theory posits that weak counterarguments generate resistance within the receiver, enabling them to maintain their beliefs in the face of a future, stronger challenge. Following exposure to weak counterarguments (e.g., counterarguments that have been paired with refutations), the receiver will then seek out supporting information to further strengthen their threatened position.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inoculation_theory

This is the same pop psychology his recent ancestors fell for (he's from a country whose chancellor was recently Josef Goebbels).

It's true - no matter how many German-speakers we manage to hang, the ones left still don't seem to learn. We should have pastoralized their countries like Henry Morgenthau recommended. The only good idea a Democrat ever had and it's the one we didn't do.

[pmac666]

I think you are that dense and i love it cause you have no idea what youre running into.
No fake poll and no opinion piece will save you from that.

I just wonder when you dummies and the orange shitstain get tired of all that losing.
Cause thats all youre continuously doing.

Like every election since 2016.
Every of the 60+ lawsuits to not proof any election fraud.
The E. Jean Carroll case.
The hush money trial.
The NY state fraud lawsuit
The Trump organization fraud case.
And not to forget your other hero Putin, hes also not what i exactly would call a winner.

Thats a lotta losing but yeah that trial now will hand him the election. For sure this time. 100%.
Like it did in 22 after the indictments. Man, that worked out in a massive red wave, didnt it?
But i like your confidence even when youre wrong every freaking time on freaking everything. lol

The truth is, youre all habitual losers whos loser hero fluked a election once when all the shitstars alligned and you will get your nuts kicked in again in November. Badly.
Cant wait for all the election fraud whine again. Trump already preparing for it again. lol

[Votanic]

I think you are that dense and i love it cause you have no idea what youre running into it.
No fake poll and no opinion piece will save you from that.

I just wonder when you dummies and the orange shitstain get tired of all that losing.
Cause thats all youre continuously doing.

Like every election since 2016.
Every of the 60+ lawsuits to not proof any election fraud.
The E. Jean Carroll case.
The hush money trial.
The NY state fraud lawsuit
The Trump organization fraud case.
And not to forget your other hero Putin, hes also not what i exactly would call a winner.

Thats a lotta losing but yeah that trial now will hand him the election. For sure this time. 100%.
Like it did in 22 after the indictments. Man, that worked out in a massive red wave, didnt it?
But i like your confidence even when youre wrong every freaking time on freaking everything. lol

The truth is, youre all habitual losers whos loser hero fluked a election once when all the shitstars alligned and you will get your nuts kicked in again in November. Badly.
Cant wait for all the election fraud whine again. Trump already preparing for it again. lol

Yikes... is p6 is having a total meltdown-rant, or what?
Maybe somebody that can stand direct contact should try sticking a wooden spoon in his mouth?

[pmac666]

Here, a little orange wanker shuffle for you.

[saxitoxin]

I think you are that dense and i love it cause you have no idea what youre running into.
No fake poll and no opinion piece will save you from that.

I just wonder when you dummies and the orange shitstain get tired of all that losing.
Cause thats all youre continuously doing.

Like every election since 2016.
Every of the 60+ lawsuits to not proof any election fraud.
The E. Jean Carroll case.
The hush money trial.
The NY state fraud lawsuit
The Trump organization fraud case.
And not to forget your other hero Putin, hes also not what i exactly would call a winner.

Thats a lotta losing but yeah that trial now will hand him the election. For sure this time. 100%.
Like it did in 22 after the indictments. Man, that worked out in a massive red wave, didnt it?
But i like your confidence even when youre wrong every freaking time on freaking everything. lol

The truth is, youre all habitual losers whos loser hero fluked a election once when all the shitstars alligned and you will get your nuts kicked in again in November. Badly.
Cant wait for all the election fraud whine again. Trump already preparing for it again. lol

LOL. You people keep rolling out these parades of horribles thinking that the only reason we support Trump is because we aren't willing to believe their veracity.

What if we do believe them and just don't care? You could produce 100 eyewitnesses -- all of whom are Catholic nuns -- to testify they saw Donald Trump finger-bang the corpse of Barbara Bush on top of George Washington's sarcophagus and I just wouldn't care one iota.

You keep approaching this like you can reason with us and then, when you can't, you spin-out that we just don't get it.

You can't reason with us because we don't want the same things as you. I want the world torn down and reorganized into your worst nightmare.

You're a monkey trying to talk a whale into climbing a tree with you. It doesn't matter how believable your argument is, it ain't happening.

[saxitoxin]

Here, a little orange wanker shuffle for you.

Which one is your grandfather? ↓ Did he get the rope?

[Pack Rat]

I think you are that dense and i love it cause you have no idea what youre running into.
No fake poll and no opinion piece will save you from that.

I just wonder when you dummies and the orange shitstain get tired of all that losing.
Cause thats all youre continuously doing.

Like every election since 2016.
Every of the 60+ lawsuits to not proof any election fraud.
The E. Jean Carroll case.
The hush money trial.
The NY state fraud lawsuit
The Trump organization fraud case.
And not to forget your other hero Putin, hes also not what i exactly would call a winner.

Thats a lotta losing but yeah that trial now will hand him the election. For sure this time. 100%.
Like it did in 22 after the indictments. Man, that worked out in a massive red wave, didnt it?
But i like your confidence even when youre wrong every freaking time on freaking everything. lol

The truth is, youre all habitual losers whos loser hero fluked a election once when all the shitstars alligned and you will get your nuts kicked in again in November. Badly.
Cant wait for all the election fraud whine again. Trump already preparing for it again. lol

LOL. You people keep rolling out these parades of horribles thinking that the only reason we support Trump is because we aren't willing to believe their veracity.

What if we do believe them and just don't care? You could produce 100 eyewitnesses -- all of whom are Catholic nuns -- to testify they saw Donald Trump finger-bang the corpse of Barbara Bush on top of George Washington's sarcophagus and I just wouldn't care one iota.

You keep approaching this like you can reason with us and then, when you can't, you spin-out that we just don't get it.

You can't reason with us because we don't want the same things as you. I want the world torn down and reorganized into your worst nightmare.

You're a monkey trying to talk a whale into climbing a tree with you. It doesn't matter how believable your argument is, it ain't happening.

OK, finally Saxi has unmasked himself...he is an old fashion anarchist. Has nothing to lose, but his lonely and pathetic life.

...and he never had a chance to enjoy the forbidden fruit of his Chinese he/she fantasy...ralf

[pmac666]

I think you are that dense and i love it cause you have no idea what youre running into.
No fake poll and no opinion piece will save you from that.

I just wonder when you dummies and the orange shitstain get tired of all that losing.
Cause thats all youre continuously doing.

Like every election since 2016.
Every of the 60+ lawsuits to not proof any election fraud.
The E. Jean Carroll case.
The hush money trial.
The NY state fraud lawsuit
The Trump organization fraud case.
And not to forget your other hero Putin, hes also not what i exactly would call a winner.

Thats a lotta losing but yeah that trial now will hand him the election. For sure this time. 100%.
Like it did in 22 after the indictments. Man, that worked out in a massive red wave, didnt it?
But i like your confidence even when youre wrong every freaking time on freaking everything. lol

The truth is, youre all habitual losers whos loser hero fluked a election once when all the shitstars alligned and you will get your nuts kicked in again in November. Badly.
Cant wait for all the election fraud whine again. Trump already preparing for it again. lol

LOL. You people keep rolling out these parades of horribles thinking that the only reason we support Trump is because we aren't willing to believe their veracity.

What if we do believe them and just don't care? You could produce 100 eyewitnesses -- all of whom are Catholic nuns -- to testify they saw Donald Trump finger-bang the corpse of Barbara Bush on top of George Washington's sarcophagus and I just wouldn't care one iota.

You keep approaching this like you can reason with us and then, when you can't, you spin-out that we just don't get it.

You can't reason with us because we don't want the same things as you. I want the world torn down and reorganized into your worst nightmare.

You're a monkey trying to talk a whale into climbing a tree with you. It doesn't matter how believable your argument is, it ain't happening.

Yeah we know your a bunch of nihilistic beta losers supporting a nihilistic beta loser, thats no secret.
But you do you, keep waiting for the dumbest shit that never happens and keep losing and losing. Enjoy.

[Dukasaur]

You can't reason with us because we don't want the same things as you. I want the world torn down and reorganized into your worst nightmare.

Yeah, we know this.

However, while you're in the mood for being honest, perhaps you'd like to say why?

I've asked you "Why?" a couple times and I think once you made a joke out of it and the other time you just ignored it.

Presumably, there is an ultimate goal somewhere.

[lokisgal]

You can't reason with us because we don't want the same things as you. I want the world torn down and reorganized into your worst nightmare.

Yeah, we know this.

However, while you're in the mood for being honest, perhaps you'd like to say why?

I've asked you "Why?" a couple times and I think once you made a joke out of it and the other time you just ignored it.

Presumably, there is an ultimate goal somewhere.

The goal of the far right is to get rid of all immigrants and have a nice christian and white male dominated country. They love dumpster because they see him as their savior. What they miss is that what they see and what they will get are not the same thing. Maybe they love them some dictatorship with a supreme leader like Kim or Putin.

[Votanic]

You can't reason with us because we don't want the same things as you. I want the world torn down and reorganized into your worst nightmare.

Yeah, we know this.

However, while you're in the mood for being honest, perhaps you'd like to say why?

I've asked you "Why?" a couple times and I think once you made a joke out of it and the other time you just ignored it.

Presumably, there is an ultimate goal somewhere.

The goal of the far right is to get rid of all immigrants and have a nice christian and white male dominated country. They love dumpster because they see him as their savior. What they miss is that what they see and what they will get are not the same thing. Maybe they love them some dictatorship with a supreme leader like Kim or Putin.

My god!? What is that horrible, shrill, screeching sound??
Oh... nevermind, just loltrans again...

[lokisgal]

You can't reason with us because we don't want the same things as you. I want the world torn down and reorganized into your worst nightmare.

Yeah, we know this.

However, while you're in the mood for being honest, perhaps you'd like to say why?

I've asked you "Why?" a couple times and I think once you made a joke out of it and the other time you just ignored it.

Presumably, there is an ultimate goal somewhere.

The goal of the far right is to get rid of all immigrants and have a nice christian and white male dominated country. They love dumpster because they see him as their savior. What they miss is that what they see and what they will get are not the same thing. Maybe they love them some dictatorship with a supreme leader like Kim or Putin.

My god!? What is that horrible, shrill, screeching sound??
Oh... nevermind, just loltrans again...

Is that the best you can do? Toss out some tired old insult?

[mookiemcgee]

You can't reason with us because we don't want the same things as you. I want the world torn down and reorganized into your worst nightmare.

Yeah, we know this.

However, while you're in the mood for being honest, perhaps you'd like to say why?

I've asked you "Why?" a couple times and I think once you made a joke out of it and the other time you just ignored it.

Presumably, there is an ultimate goal somewhere.

I've always assumed it has something to do with Linda Searcy, but beyond that I am lost. It's that or the whole agent of KGB angle