Biden vs Trump April 2024

[2dimes]

If you voted today who would you vote for?

[Pack Rat]

Shouldn't this be by private ballot? I'm afraid that the MAGA cult followers might resort to childish rants. Kinda scary...

[GaryDenton]

https://www.threads.net/@meidas_societyschild/post/C6SHDYFrZfi/?xmt=AQGzy4teI7bqcZJBdoEgz-eB_VTnVB0RjF5mIbzM5wPUaw

[pmac666]

I will vote for my dead aunt in Philadelphia. And i will vote for Joe Robinette Biden. 3 times.

Seriously, in 2015 he was one of my least favourite dem choices, now i think its the right availaible dude for the times we are in.
He seems to love to deal with all the bs and hes doing it quite good.

And as european i think its super crazy that this is even a question.

[2dimes]

Did you vote for him in this poll because you couldn’t read the selections and vote for the correct one?

[pmac666]

Ah right, i missed that im a own category.

[2dimes]

I’m not setting up saxi polls where there’s only two options so barely anyone can find a selection they like.

Or his other style where all the selections are the same. Though I have on occasion made those.

[bigtoughralf]

And as european i think its super crazy that this is even a question.

Jeez, the amount of time you spend ranting about Trump and you're not even in the US?

In foreign policy terms Biden and Trump are two sides of the same dice as Obama, Bush and all the others. Assclowns who just want to bomb brown people and aggravate China and Russia. It doesn't make any real difference which of them ends up in power.

The only thing Trump really did differently was call out European countries for relying on the US to defend them, which quite frankly you should be thanking him for given his comments seem to have actually woken some of them up to reality and encouraged them to get off their asses and fund a few more soldiers.

[GaryDenton]

Why would I pick a Republican?




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[jusplay4fun]

As usual, GaryD plays fast and loose with his assessment; he then draws a very BIASED conclusion. Here is evidence, from FactCheck.org

Let's fact check Biden vs. Trump, for starters:

Before the pandemic in 2020, the economy under the former president experienced a jump in median household incomes as well as an all-time low poverty rate and unemployment rates at a 50-year low, according to a Trump White House press release. Pelosi on “Katy Tur Reports” asserted job losses under Trump were the worst out of all presidents, but Tur noted there was a worldwide pandemic during his presidency.

“And Joe Biden is doing that, created 9 million jobs in his term in office,” Pelosi said. “Donald Trump has the worst record of job loss of any president, so we just have to make sure people know.”

“That was a global pandemic,” Tur responded.

“He had the worst record of any president,” Pelosi said, raising her voice. “We’ve had other concerns in our country. If you want to be an apologist for Donald Trump, that may be your role, but it ain’t mine.”

“I don’t think that anybody can accuse me of that,” Tur retorted.

Biden has touted job gains during his presidency, but neglects to mention any effects of the pandemic, according to FactCheck.org.

Many jobs gained under the Biden administration have been government jobs.

Moreover, Trump’s economy appeared to be rebounding in the third quarter of 2020 as it was growing after a second-quarter contraction, according to the Conference Board.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/california-dem-nancy-pelosi-implodes-after-msnbc-host-fact-checks-her-on-trump-s-economy/ar-AA1nT4sv?ocid=winp2fptaskbar&cvid=271c17d2e69a4c25ae36144836a607a6&ei=40

and MORE bad news about now badly Biden has managed the US Economy, same source:

The American economy is exhibiting signs of stagflation as growth slumps and prices continue to surge, experts told the Daily Caller News Foundation. U.S. annual economic growth was only 1.6% in the first quarter of 2024, after a report of continuing elevated inflation in March of 3.5% year-over-year.

And, to answer your question, you should. Republicans handle the Economy better than Democrats, especially in this day and age where ALL Liberal Democrat solutions are "SPEND MORE MONEY" btw that we DO NOT have and thus resort to MORE Deficit Spending.

I have already documented that the budgets of Bill Clinton benefitted from budget deals made by Richard Darman, under President George H. W. Bush. I do think his son spent way too much, getting us in a BAD war in Iraq and I saw no need to be in Afghanistan that long. Both were a huge waste of American blood, money, and standing.

[jusplay4fun]

Further, GaryD over-simplifies his analysis of the recession under Reagan, which occurred at the START of his Administration, and much can be blamed on the Bad Economic policies of his predecessor, Jimmy Carter, that GaryD conveniently OMITS:

Some economists have stated that Reagan's policies were an important part of bringing about the third longest peacetime economic expansion in U.S. history.[42][43] During the Reagan administration, real GDP growth averaged 3.5%, compared to 2.9% during the preceding eight years.[44] The annual average unemployment rate declined by 1.7 percentage points, from 7.2% in 1980 to 5.5% in 1988, after it had increased by 1.6 percentage points over the preceding eight years.[45][46] Nonfarm employment increased by 16.1 million during Reagan's presidency, compared to 15.4 million during the preceding eight years,[47] while manufacturing employment declined by 582,000 after rising 363,000 during the preceding eight years.[48] Reagan's administration is the only one not to have raised the minimum wage.[49] The inflation rate, 13.5% in 1980, fell to 4.1% in 1988, in part because the Federal Reserve increased interest rates (prime rate peaking at 20.5% in August 1981[50]).[51][52] The latter contributed to a recession from July 1981 to November 1982 during which unemployment rose to 9.7% and GDP fell by 1.9%. Additionally, income growth slowed for middle- and lower-class (2.4% to 1.8%) and rose for the upper-class (2.2% to 4.83%).[53]

The misery index, defined as the inflation rate added to the unemployment rate, shrank from 19.33 when he began his administration to 9.72 when he left, the greatest improvement record for a President since Harry S. Truman left office.[54] In terms of American households, the percentage of total households making less than $10,000 a year (in real 2007 dollars) shrank from 8.8% in 1980 to 8.3% in 1988 while the percentage of households making over $75,000 went from 20.2% to 25.7% during that period, both signs of progress.[55]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reaganomics#:~:text=The%20inflation%20rate%2C%2013.5%25%20in,and%20GDP%20fell%20by%201.9%25.

And GaryD wants to ignore the role of the Fed during this period:

But the Volcker Fed continued to press the fight against high inflation with a combination of higher interest rates and even slower reserve growth. The economy entered recession again in July 1981, and this proved to be more severe and protracted, lasting until November 1982. Unemployment peaked at nearly 11 percent, but inflation continued to move lower and by recession’s end, year-over-year inflation was back under 5 percent. In time, as the Fed’s commitment to low inflation gained credibility, unemployment retreated and the economy entered a period of sustained growth and stability. The Great Inflation was over.

https://www.federalreservehistory.org/essays/great-inflation

[pmac666]

And as european i think its super crazy that this is even a question.

Jeez, the amount of time you spend ranting about Trump and you're not even in the US?

In foreign policy terms Biden and Trump are two sides of the same dice as Obama, Bush and all the others. Assclowns who just want to bomb brown people and aggravate China and Russia. It doesn't make any real difference which of them ends up in power.

The only thing Trump really did differently was call out European countries for relying on the US to defend them, which quite frankly you should be thanking him for given his comments seem to have actually woken some of them up to reality and encouraged them to get off their asses and fund a few more soldiers.

You are pro Gaza i guess, right?
Then you should stay away from Tump as far as you can.
The rest is just plain nonsense.

[bigtoughralf]

You are pro Gaza i guess, right?
Then you should stay away from Tump as far as you can.

Biden is selling Israel the bombs it's dropping on Gaza. They're just as bad as each other when it comes to Palestine.

[saxitoxin]

You are pro Gaza i guess, right?
Then you should stay away from Tump as far as you can.

I'm also pro-Gaza, however, members of the Germanic race probably should sit-out questions involving Israel. You don't exactly have a credible track record for this line of commentary.

[Pack Rat]

Saxi and Ralf singing, "River to the Sea!"

[mookiemcgee]

I will vote for my dead aunt in Philadelphia.

As a write in candidate? what happens if she wins?

[2dimes]

Sounds about as good a choice as the other two.

[pmac666]

I will vote for my dead aunt in Philadelphia.

As a write in candidate? what happens if she wins?

I give my best Mrs Doubtfire impression and travel to Washington.

[pmac666]

You are pro Gaza i guess, right?
Then you should stay away from Tump as far as you can.

Biden is selling Israel the bombs it's dropping on Gaza. They're just as bad as each other when it comes to Palestine.

Oh no, they arent.
Just dont complain when you wake up one day with Trump as president and Gaza as a parking lot.
And without Ukraine....

[bigtoughralf]

Gaza is already a parking lot. Turn on the news dude.

[HitRed]

Ozymandias

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
No thing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

— Percy Shelley, "Ozymandias", 1819 edition

[saxitoxin]

You are pro Gaza i guess, right?
Then you should stay away from Tump as far as you can.

Biden is selling Israel the bombs it's dropping on Gaza. They're just as bad as each other when it comes to Palestine.

Oh no, they arent.
Just dont complain when you wake up one day with Trump as president and Gaza as a parking lot.
And without Ukraine....

Aren't you from a country whose prime minister was literally Joseph Goebbels at one time?

[bigtoughralf]

Aren't you from a country whose prime minister was literally Joseph Goebbels at one time?

Is that the guy who locked his daughter in the basement?

And people voted for him. Sickening!

[saxitoxin]

Is that the guy who locked his daughter in the basement?

I mean, I guess it was a type of basement

[pmac666]

You are pro Gaza i guess, right?
Then you should stay away from Tump as far as you can.

Biden is selling Israel the bombs it's dropping on Gaza. They're just as bad as each other when it comes to Palestine.

Oh no, they arent.
Just dont complain when you wake up one day with Trump as president and Gaza as a parking lot.
And without Ukraine....

Aren't you from a country whose prime minister was literally Joseph Goebbels at one time?

Ahem, no.
And even if, it wouldnt make you less fascist and me more.....

Arent you from a country where some founding fathers were slave owners?