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SoN!c wrote:WE would have won always;
BAD luck Loose poisoned like the 7¨ish % probablility first night but always super confident till the end
If not for the 7% bad luck on that i would have been cleared as townie (confirmed townie after THAT night)- goodluck winning those odds..if you could not even win it on THESE ODDS
Still GREAT JOB PMCHUCH and CHARLE
"Postby strike wolf on Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:55 pm
Congrats to PMC, Charle and Son!c. Very well played. The first two nights especially were basically a master class in how to use a mafia busdriver." PMC nailed it and we fine-tuned it Master cleaning LOOSE ends !!!!
Son!c-Malevolent Spirit-Mafia Goon, PMChugh-Attacking Spirit-Mafia Roleblocker and Charles-Attacking Spirit-Mafia Busdriver have won.
pmchugh wrote:Ggs all, massive thanks to Strike for all the effort, especially with the written scenes.
Very stressful game and quite surprised we won. I do feel mafia busdriver is uber powerful, but we probably made mistakes with it and made it too obvious. Like, I am assuming LC poisoned vot and we switched sonic into it? I think almost everyone targetted vot night 1 lol.
I would be interested to see if fusi had worked out what happened on the penultimate night. I feel like if anyone had noticed that we switched charle and kingm, resulting in it looking like charle visited kingm (he actually saw himself visit himself) then it would have given more doubt to our story.
Big props to charle, not easy to carry a game for a newbie as mafia, the doctor claim switch saved our game. Fusi called it right, I panicked when ewe had a guilty on me (he had a knack for avoiding our busdrive switches) and fusi made a case against charle in the same day. Ewe being cop was annoying as he was definitely in the target lynch pile.
The next night when I came up with the no kill plan it put all the pressure on charle and despite being worried, he took it up and owned it. Him selling that was the mandatory for us to have a chance.
The one thing I would say to town is you didn't engage enough with the posts, the evidence was there. I did classic scum tells like vote charle day 1 and then quickly back down, not defend him but attack someone else when he was accused and virtually no one noticed. Sonic at one point even said, "I think all city dwellers are scum and third party" while in the same post he claimed to be a city dweller lol. I think we could use some newbie games with no roles and stories so that people get used to trying to find scum tells and town tells and don't rely on night actions.
Oh and note to self, never claim vanilla as mafia, terrible idea.
Votanic wrote:Having Sonic killed off early was probably scum's greatest stroke of luck.
pmchugh wrote:Ggs all, massive thanks to Strike for all the effort, especially with the written scenes.
Very stressful game and quite surprised we won. I do feel mafia busdriver is uber powerful, but we probably made mistakes with it and made it too obvious. Like, I am assuming LC poisoned vot and we switched sonic into it? I think almost everyone targetted vot night 1 lol.
I would be interested to see if fusi had worked out what happened on the penultimate night. I feel like if anyone had noticed that we switched charle and kingm, resulting in it looking like charle visited kingm (he actually saw himself visit himself) then it would have given more doubt to our story.
Big props to charle, not easy to carry a game for a newbie as mafia, the doctor claim switch saved our game. Fusi called it right, I panicked when ewe had a guilty on me (he had a knack for avoiding our busdrive switches) and fusi made a case against charle in the same day. Ewe being cop was annoying as he was definitely in the target lynch pile.
The next night when I came up with the no kill plan it put all the pressure on charle and despite being worried, he took it up and owned it. Him selling that was the mandatory for us to have a chance.
The one thing I would say to town is you didn't engage enough with the posts, the evidence was there. I did classic scum tells like vote charle day 1 and then quickly back down, not defend him but attack someone else when he was accused and virtually no one noticed. Sonic at one point even said, "I think all city dwellers are scum and third party" while in the same post he claimed to be a city dweller lol. I think we could use some newbie games with no roles and stories so that people get used to trying to find scum tells and town tells and don't rely on night actions.
Oh and note to self, never claim vanilla as mafia, terrible idea.
Iliad wrote:The upside of calling everyone scum and making 1000 predictions is that statistically you should get a few right.
TrafalgarLaw01 wrote:Votanic wrote:Having Sonic killed off early was probably scum's greatest stroke of luck.
I wonder why you claimed vainilla that probably had u lynched. had u claimed BG as u were. maybe u wouldnt have got lynched
Votanic wrote:TrafalgarLaw01 wrote:Votanic wrote:Having Sonic killed off early was probably scum's greatest stroke of luck.
I wonder why you claimed vainilla that probably had u lynched. had u claimed BG as u were. maybe u wouldnt have got lynched
Glad you asked.
What is the benefit to town of forcing the reveal a town power role? Especially early in the game? ...Usually none.
I doubt it would have even saved me, but it would definitely have raised my chance of being killed that night. Remember, scum loves unnecessary role reveals.
In the future, town needs to not be so nosy about PRs and just hope whoever has one plays it well for town.
Overall this was a clever and twisty game, but any game with major scum PRs, especially if unannounced, is always going to be a longshot win for town.
TrafalgarLaw01 wrote:Votanic wrote:TrafalgarLaw01 wrote:Votanic wrote:Having Sonic killed off early was probably scum's greatest stroke of luck.
I wonder why you claimed vainilla that probably had u lynched. had u claimed BG as u were. maybe u wouldnt have got lynched
Glad you asked.
What is the benefit to town of forcing the reveal a town power role? Especially early in the game? ...Usually none.
I doubt it would have even saved me, but it would definitely have raised my chance of being killed that night. Remember, scum loves unnecessary role reveals.
In the future, town needs to not be so nosy about PRs and just hope whoever has one plays it well for town.
Overall this was a clever and twisty game, but any game with major scum PRs, especially if unannounced, is always going to be a longshot win for town.
I agree reveals are not very usefull early on. But if u are town its better be honest about it and do the best on your hand to be alive and reveal scum instead of lying
strike wolf wrote:What I noted and probably would have screwed over mafia had town noticed is that by this point in the game, Mafia Roleblocker and Busdriver were basically confirmed roles. With that kind of manipulation out there, there was no reason mafia should have missed a kill when the "doctor" was known. Mafia had just too many ways to subvert the protection and town could have called you out on it. Town probably also could have figured out balance wise town was already heavy on protective roles. It also slowed down the game when mafia was in control and if 5 had been alive, I felt there was a good chance you could have forced a bad lynch on either Devante or Fusi. 6 alive on the other hand gave town an extra night to get information and think it through. You played it really well but I think more often than not that second guilty result on you would lead to your lynch, then without the role block, Devante gets cleared by giving out his inventions and then Charle probably becomes the odd duck since Fusi and you made it pretty clear you weren't on the same side.
Charle wrote:Thanks very much Strike, I really enjoyed this and had so many laughs, from day 2 with Vot’s lynch until the end. PMC is a brilliant player and I learned so much from him, thanks buddy!
pmchugh wrote:I would be interested to see if fusi had worked out what happened on the penultimate night. I feel like if anyone had noticed that we switched charle and kingm, resulting in it looking like charle visited kingm (he actually saw himself visit himself) then it would have given more doubt to our story.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:Big shout out to Fusi, who not only knew who the last two scum were, but made an accurate guess on the roles as well. It's tough seeing a game go in that direction, but it happens. I hope you have better luck next time Fusi!
Iliad wrote:The upside of calling everyone scum and making 1000 predictions is that statistically you should get a few right.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:I do want to add that a general policy in Mafia, no matter what site or platform you play on, it's "Lynch all liars."
DirtyDishSoap wrote:I do want to add that a general policy in Mafia, no matter what site or platform you play on, it's "Lynch all liars."
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
Extreme Ways wrote:DirtyDishSoap wrote:I do want to add that a general policy in Mafia, no matter what site or platform you play on, it's "Lynch all liars."
I uh, tried this but maifauniverse is quite different in shielding or using claims to protect something else.
I had a jailkeeper out for almost no reason d2 after a no kill night and someone else claimed another roleblocker on someone. In return I too claimed roleblocker to protect the other two claims. We were both (forced to) retract but lying has purpose.
Also sometimes people claim they picked up on a soft from someone to shield them from a lynch only to say the next day they just really trusted them. It's all about whether "does this come from scum or from town"
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:I typically wont trust someone's claim at face value if they have a lying streak. Just me.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:Big shout out to Fusi, who not only knew who the last two scum were, but made an accurate guess on the roles as well. It's tough seeing a game go in that direction, but it happens. I hope you have better luck next time Fusi!
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