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Re: The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly for the POTUS

Postby pmac666 on Sun Jan 28, 2024 11:00 am

jusplay4fun wrote:
GaryDenton wrote:JP4Fun:
What people have found out here is they have no confidence in you.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/donald-trump/

Unfavorable 8.9%.

Electoral College - down to 6 too close to call states. Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.

https://www.270towin.com/maps/consensus-2024-presidential-election-forecast


GaryD,

Confidence in me or Donald Trump? I think you are confused, as usual.

Be careful, your liberal bias is clearly showing. You may want to cover that up.

If you read various threads here, you will clearly see that I do not like Trump, have criticized him, and have said that I do NOT think that he deserves to be President. Trump is bombastic, thinks at a cursory level, has biases, is abrasive, and surely a sore loser. He does love this country, but his view of this country is limited.

Biden is an incompetent President. And let me repeat this: Biden is a doddering old fool.

Trump has a solid block of voters who
A) LOVE him, no matter what, and
B) a block of voters who detest him and will NEVER vote for him.
WHICH is BIGGER?

I do not want either Biden or Trump to be President for a second term.

The Economy, despite the claims of the Democrats, is not a winning issue for Biden.

I do agree with GaryD that this election is likely to be VERY CLOSE. It may come down to '
1) those 6 states in the Electoral College, and
2) the abortion issue.


No, it wont be close at all, the economy is indeed a winning issue (maybe not for deluded right wingers, but who cares? They are not enough) for Joe and i dont see dems and indys getting tired of voting against Trump (some might even vote FOR Joe, cause hes a very acceptebale president in the real world, esp considering the alternative) + all the youngsters who came of voting age. And they largely despise Trump too.
Even worse, Trump needs to win voters and thats nowhere in sight when you look at all the last elections regional and national. Where should it come from?
But who knows, the Hitler rhetoric might do the trick. Oh wait....lol
Orange ra_ist is toast and will lose again like the serial loser he is by atleast the same margin as in 20. Most likely even higher.
And im not getting tired of it.
Rest in piss maga.
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Re: The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly for the POTUS

Postby GaryDenton on Sun Jan 28, 2024 11:58 am

I am happy with the state of the economy and people are starting to see we are much better off than the Republicans have been telling them.

The three big issues are abortion, immigration, and democracy. Republicans are against all three. The public recognizes nuances but Republicans have staked out extreme positions it is difficult to back away from.
The economy is always a top topic but Republicans have been so wrong for so long that they might finally recognize they should not mention it.

The candidates's health and mental fitness, when even Fox News recognizes that there is something wrong with Trump is an advantage for Biden.

Who has the advantage this Fall? Democrats

Looking good, I expect to see Cruz gone, the White House in Democratic hands, and Republicans blaming their losses on Trump at this time next year.
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Re: The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly for the POTUS

Postby pmac666 on Sun Jan 28, 2024 12:08 pm

2 yrs ago they told us of the magical red wave (which also was nowhere to be seen beforehand) that was a trickle at best and now they wanna tell us its super close.
Which prolly translates to a massive blue landslide. :lol:
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Re: The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly for the POTUS

Postby Pack Rat on Sun Jan 28, 2024 3:27 pm

pmac666 wrote:2 yrs ago they told us of the magical red wave (which also was nowhere to be seen beforehand) that was a trickle at best and now they wanna tell us its super close.
Which prolly translates to a massive blue landslide. :lol:


Trump can not win without Independents. Trump's spineless followers in Congress will see it as a minority in both the House and Senate.

President Biden's coat tails will carry many Democrat candidates to victory.

Blue wave, yes!

2025 may see many Republicans indicted for their complicity in the January 6th Insurrection.
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Re: The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly for the POTUS

Postby Pack Rat on Tue Jan 30, 2024 9:12 am

Trump supporters being interviewed.


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Re: The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly for the POTUS

Postby jusplay4fun on Wed Jan 31, 2024 11:46 am

Dukasaur wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:
If you read various threads here, you will clearly see that I do not like Trump, have criticized him, and have said that I do NOT think that he deserves to be President. Trump is bombastic, thinks at a cursory level, has biases, is abrasive, and surely a sore loser. He does love this country, but his view of this country is limited.

Biden is an incompetent President. And let me repeat this: Biden is a doddering old fool.

Trump has a solid block of voters who
A) LOVE him, no matter what, and
B) a block of voters who detest him and will NEVER vote for him.
WHICH is BIGGER?

I do not want either Biden or Trump to be President for a second term.

The Economy, despite the claims of the Democrats, is not a winning issue for Biden.

I do agree with GaryD that this election is likely to be VERY CLOSE. It may come down to '
1) those 6 states in the Electoral College, and
2) the abortion issue.


Good summation.


Thanks, Duk.
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Re: The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly for the POTUS

Postby GaryDenton on Wed Jan 31, 2024 12:31 pm

The Federalist Society may be good for something.

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2023-08-16/donald-trump-constitution-federalist-society-14th-amendment-insurrection

“The bottom line is that Donald Trump both ‘engaged in’ ‘insurrection or rebellion’ and gave ‘aid or comfort’ to others engaging in such conduct, within the original meaning of those terms as employed in Section 3 of the 14th Amendment,” law professors William Baude, of the University of Chicago, and Michael Stokes Paulsen, of the University of St. Thomas, concluded in their paper, to be published next year in the University of Pennsylvania Law Review.
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Re: The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly for the POTUS

Postby jusplay4fun on Sat Feb 03, 2024 8:22 am

Here is something else Biden is WRONG about:

FactCheck.org
Biden Makes False Claim About Jan. 6 Capitol Attack

About 140 law enforcement officers were injured during the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol, according to multiple reports. But no officers were “killed” that day, as President Joe Biden falsely claimed at a Jan. 31 campaign reception in Miami.

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/biden-makes-false-claim-about-jan-6-capitol-attack/
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Re: The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly for the POTUS

Postby Pack Rat on Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:41 am

jusplay4fun wrote:Here is something else Biden is WRONG about:

FactCheck.org
Biden Makes False Claim About Jan. 6 Capitol Attack

About 140 law enforcement officers were injured during the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol, according to multiple reports. But no officers were “killed” that day, as President Joe Biden falsely claimed at a Jan. 31 campaign reception in Miami.

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/biden-makes-false-claim-about-jan-6-capitol-attack/


Here are facts about the people who died on January 6th and later dates as the result of the January 6th Insurrection

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/05/us/p ... eaths.html

Jusplay4fun, it was Trump who caused this treasonous act of Insurrection.
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Re: The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly for the POTUS

Postby 2dimes on Sat Feb 03, 2024 10:57 am

Let's not forget. Biden and Obama have lost the right to jump in a 'vette, do a burnout and cruise on public roads to a drive through for a burger.

They are now stuck being driven around the rest of their lives like the Donald.

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Re: The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly for the POTUS

Postby jusplay4fun on Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:22 pm

Pack Rat wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:Here is something else Biden is WRONG about:

FactCheck.org
Biden Makes False Claim About Jan. 6 Capitol Attack

About 140 law enforcement officers were injured during the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol, according to multiple reports. But no officers were “killed” that day, as President Joe Biden falsely claimed at a Jan. 31 campaign reception in Miami.

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/biden-makes-false-claim-about-jan-6-capitol-attack/


Here are facts about the people who died on January 6th and later dates as the result of the January 6th Insurrection

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/05/us/p ... eaths.html

Jusplay4fun, it was Trump who caused this treasonous act of Insurrection.


Another feeble response by the newly minted troll, p-rat, in support of feeble old Joe.
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Re: The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly for the POTUS

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:55 pm

jusplay4fun wrote:
Pack Rat wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:Here is something else Biden is WRONG about:

FactCheck.org
Biden Makes False Claim About Jan. 6 Capitol Attack

About 140 law enforcement officers were injured during the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol, according to multiple reports. But no officers were “killed” that day, as President Joe Biden falsely claimed at a Jan. 31 campaign reception in Miami.

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/biden-makes-false-claim-about-jan-6-capitol-attack/


Here are facts about the people who died on January 6th and later dates as the result of the January 6th Insurrection

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/05/us/p ... eaths.html

Jusplay4fun, it was Trump who caused this treasonous act of Insurrection.


Another feeble response by the newly minted troll, p-rat, in support of feeble old Joe.


What's feeble about it? You mean if you smash someone's head in with a pickaxe, but they don't immediately die, it's not murder?

Some victims may linger in a coma for years before dying. You think that would protect you from a murder charge if that was the case?
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Re: The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly for the POTUS

Postby jusplay4fun on Sat Feb 03, 2024 2:14 pm

What is that? You equate my comment on the doddering, inept, feeble Biden with MURDER?

That is simply a non sequitur.

I have already shared a video and evaluation of Robert Gates to support my conclusion about Biden. And further, do you watch Biden simply WALK or give impromptu responses? Biden can rarely string together more that 2-3 coherent sentences impromptu and at times he cannot even read his teleprompter.

In a similar vein, p-rat can barely offer anything that is close to a coherent response.

AND I am "refuted" with nonsense and a non sequitur.

AND it took so long for Biden to decide how to respond to the death of 3 US Service persons that many of the guilty terrorist responsible for this deadly attack (that also wounded 30+ more persons) had time to FLEE the scene and hide. Well Done, Biden; that is another Foreign Policy MISTAKE. The number keeps growing.

Some regional watchers have warned that this apparent restraint — including telegraphing the attacks well in advance — may mean the militias feel emboldened to continue their violence against American forces in the region.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/live-blog/live-updates-rcna137078
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Re: The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly for the POTUS

Postby jusplay4fun on Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:12 pm

Gasoline prices and politics; please scroll down to see the connection:

Summer-blend fuel is also more expensive to make than winter-blend fuel. First, the production process takes longer and, second, the overall yield of gasoline per barrel of oil is lower. These complexities add as much as 15 cents per gallon to the cost to produce these higher-grade fuels.

(...)

September: A Welcome Change
As gasoline demand decreases and temperatures cool, retailers are able to switch to selling winter-blend fuel beginning September 15. While these winter-blend fuels are cheaper to produce, the complications of the switchover can result in a temporary bump in price. Weather conditions, such as hurricanes, can also affect gas prices in the late summer to fall months.

Unlike in the spring, the change to winter-blend fuel is not required. However, because winter-blend fuel costs less, retailers often sell the fuel blend to remain price competitive. Not all retailers begin selling this fuel on September 15; many make the switch when their inventories are low.

By the end of September, gas prices generally decrease as the switchover processes and demand continues to fall. And despite conspiracy theories, lower gas prices do not correlate to pre-election politics.


https://www.convenience.org/Topics/Fuels/Changing-Seasons-Changing-Gas-Prices#:~:text=Summer%2Dblend%20fuel%20is%20also,produce%20these%20higher%2Dgrade%20fuels.

and more:

https://thehill.com/homenews/nexstar_media_wire/3887123-summer-blend-fuel-what-it-is-and-why-its-more-expensive/

https://living.acg.aaa.com/auto/what-to-know-about-gasoline-blends-summer-vs-winter/#:~:text=Summer%2Dblend%20gas%20has%20a,level%20ozone%20and%20smog%20levels.
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Re: The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly for the POTUS

Postby Pack Rat on Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:19 pm

jusplay4fun wrote:Gasoline prices and politics; please scroll down to see the connection:

Summer-blend fuel is also more expensive to make than winter-blend fuel. First, the production process takes longer and, second, the overall yield of gasoline per barrel of oil is lower. These complexities add as much as 15 cents per gallon to the cost to produce these higher-grade fuels.

(...)

September: A Welcome Change
As gasoline demand decreases and temperatures cool, retailers are able to switch to selling winter-blend fuel beginning September 15. While these winter-blend fuels are cheaper to produce, the complications of the switchover can result in a temporary bump in price. Weather conditions, such as hurricanes, can also affect gas prices in the late summer to fall months.

Unlike in the spring, the change to winter-blend fuel is not required. However, because winter-blend fuel costs less, retailers often sell the fuel blend to remain price competitive. Not all retailers begin selling this fuel on September 15; many make the switch when their inventories are low.

By the end of September, gas prices generally decrease as the switchover processes and demand continues to fall. And despite conspiracy theories, lower gas prices do not correlate to pre-election politics.


https://www.convenience.org/Topics/Fuels/Changing-Seasons-Changing-Gas-Prices#:~:text=Summer%2Dblend%20fuel%20is%20also,produce%20these%20higher%2Dgrade%20fuels.

and more:

https://thehill.com/homenews/nexstar_media_wire/3887123-summer-blend-fuel-what-it-is-and-why-its-more-expensive/

https://living.acg.aaa.com/auto/what-to-know-about-gasoline-blends-summer-vs-winter/#:~:text=Summer%2Dblend%20gas%20has%20a,level%20ozone%20and%20smog%20levels.



Reading all this drivel is as exhausting as reading all the copy/paste bs you post here.

Sometimes I wonder if you actually read all these articles and actually understand what you read.

How about trying to tell us in your words, what the heck you are trying to tell us. The last thing we want is a war of copy/paste articles flooding these threads.
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Re: The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly for the POTUS

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Feb 04, 2024 4:26 am

Pack Rat wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:Gasoline prices and politics; please scroll down to see the connection:

Summer-blend fuel is also more expensive to make than winter-blend fuel. First, the production process takes longer and, second, the overall yield of gasoline per barrel of oil is lower. These complexities add as much as 15 cents per gallon to the cost to produce these higher-grade fuels.

(...)

September: A Welcome Change
As gasoline demand decreases and temperatures cool, retailers are able to switch to selling winter-blend fuel beginning September 15. While these winter-blend fuels are cheaper to produce, the complications of the switchover can result in a temporary bump in price. Weather conditions, such as hurricanes, can also affect gas prices in the late summer to fall months.

Unlike in the spring, the change to winter-blend fuel is not required. However, because winter-blend fuel costs less, retailers often sell the fuel blend to remain price competitive. Not all retailers begin selling this fuel on September 15; many make the switch when their inventories are low.

By the end of September, gas prices generally decrease as the switchover processes and demand continues to fall. And despite conspiracy theories, lower gas prices do not correlate to pre-election politics.


https://www.convenience.org/Topics/Fuels/Changing-Seasons-Changing-Gas-Prices#:~:text=Summer%2Dblend%20fuel%20is%20also,produce%20these%20higher%2Dgrade%20fuels.

and more:

https://thehill.com/homenews/nexstar_media_wire/3887123-summer-blend-fuel-what-it-is-and-why-its-more-expensive/

https://living.acg.aaa.com/auto/what-to-know-about-gasoline-blends-summer-vs-winter/#:~:text=Summer%2Dblend%20gas%20has%20a,level%20ozone%20and%20smog%20levels.



Reading all this drivel is as exhausting as reading all the copy/paste bs you post here.

Sometimes I wonder if you actually read all these articles and actually understand what you read.

How about trying to tell us in your words, what the heck you are trying to tell us. The last thing we want is a war of copy/paste articles flooding these threads.


I usually do, but your brain seems incapable of recognizing such things. And were the posts too complex for you to grasp, p-rat? Do I need to find the version for DUMMIES for you to read?

As usual, p-rat mischaracterized my numerous post with commentary ON ONE, as if that one represents all or most. p-rat, the troll, (p-rat-troll, prat-troll,...working on a better, shorter name here) is wrong again. All he needs to do is read, comprehend, and remember what I posted. Or is he incapable of one or all such simple tasks?

And who are those two candidates in the primary against Biden? Does anyone know their names, without LOOKING that up? Doubtful.
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Re: The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly for the POTUS

Postby Pack Rat on Sun Feb 04, 2024 10:00 am

Another response being vomited by our autistic and narcissist poster.

Why do you give a f*ck who Biden is running against in Democratic Party?

Be more concerned about the crumbling pillars of the Republican Party.. That's your pathetic Party. The GOP being taken over by Insurrectionists and cult followers. Your party has no platform to run on....none.

You got hate on your side, that's what, HATE! Lies, let's not forget all the LIES!

Below is a Wall Street video about the dissatisfaction of Republican voters this year.

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Re: The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly for the POTUS

Postby jusplay4fun on Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:59 am

More bad news for Biden, due in large part because many Americans find him old, feeble, and inept:

Biden’s Approval Rating Falls Again, New Poll Finds

President Joe Biden’s approval rating dropped to 37%, according to an NBC News poll released Sunday, as his favorables continue to fall and he tries to engage a largely apathetic electorate ahead of his and former President Donald Trump’s likely November rematch.

Key Facts
Some 60% of registered voters polled by NBC disapprove of Biden's performance, down from NBC polling in November that had the president at 57% disapproving.

While Biden’s approval rating has gone down, NBC’s findings are mostly consistent with other recent polls.

Biden’s average approval rating sits at 39% as of Saturday, according to a FiveThirtyEight average of polls.

The new NBC poll shows Trump beating Biden by five points, 47% to 42%, among registered voters in a head-to-head 2024 general election race.

Biden’s polling head-to-head against Trump fell about 7% in the past year as the president had 49% of voters’ support in July 2023, according to NBC.

On the question of which candidate would better handle the economy Trump leads Biden 55% to 33%—marking a sizable increase in support for Trump, who in October 2020 held a seven point lead over Biden, 48% to 41%. Trump’s issue-specific polling leads include immigration control and securing the border (where he beats Biden by 35%), improving America’s standing in the world (he tops) and having the necessary mental and physical health to be president ( 23% over Biden). Biden leads Trump in NBC’s poll on his protecting of immigrant rights (by 17%) and his handling of abortion (by 12%).

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-s-approval-rating-falls-again-new-poll-finds/ar-BB1hL3M7?cvid=582e6af48f704bbf9bb3e31522054231&ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&ei=25
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Re: The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly for the POTUS

Postby pmac666 on Mon Feb 05, 2024 3:20 am

And Quinnipack has Joe up by 6 points.
Guess that jerking over polls is pretty much useless at that point.
Esp when you see that ongoing trend that dems outperform all polls lately while reps underperform them. Red wave anyone.....?
Btw Macron had a whopping 37% approval and got reelected. That works when the alternative is even more hated.
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Re: The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly for the POTUS

Postby Pack Rat on Mon Feb 05, 2024 8:29 am

Jusplay4fun can not and will not admit that the Republican Party is a bunch of election deniers who will end up yelling STOLEN ELECTION after the November election.

The Republican Party has become a lying treasonous political organization that Trump has successfully taken over the reins of power.

Here's a small example of watching a spineless Senator openly lying on CNN



You just can't make up this shit! The Republican Party has taken a shit in its own bed and is blaming Biden for it.
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Postby Lonous on Mon Feb 05, 2024 10:46 am

Pack Rat wrote:Jusplay4fun can not and will not admit that the Republican Party is a bunch of election deniers who will end up yelling STOLEN ELECTION after the November election.
So you will not or cannot admit that the dems shrieked the same thing in 2016? How about 2000?

Poor Joe had to spend so much energy trying to rein in his out of order party members that he went senile.
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Re: The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly for the POTUS

Postby Pack Rat on Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:01 pm

Lonous wrote:
Pack Rat wrote:Jusplay4fun can not and will not admit that the Republican Party is a bunch of election deniers who will end up yelling STOLEN ELECTION after the November election.
So you will not or cannot admit that the dems shrieked the same thing in 2016? How about 2000?

Poor Joe had to spend so much energy trying to rein in his out of order party members that he went senile.



Silly uninformed young man, Trump broke tradition by not giving a concession speach. Are you too young to remember Hillary Clinton's concession speach? Look at who's senile, lol. The peaceful transfer of power was the rule, which loser Trump would not do.

Concession speaches, which include 2000 and 2016

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Postby Lonous on Mon Feb 05, 2024 3:24 pm

LOL!
That quickly went from party wide 'election deniers' and morphed into 'Trump was rude and broke concession speech tradition'
Scroll back up to where you were talking about 'shitting the bed' and apply it here.

There are some reasonable people on the left that give opinions worth consideration.
Other people.
Please self immolate and stop being a spectacle so attention reverts back to those that are worthy.
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Re: The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly for the POTUS

Postby GaryDenton on Mon Feb 05, 2024 4:17 pm

Are the Republicans just going to give the election to the Democrats?


    A do-nothing, a very do-nothing, dysfunctional House.

    Plans to raise the retirement age and premiums for Social Security while the rich keep the huge FICA tax breaks.

    The Trump plan to give Medicare to the insurance companies.

    Trump appearing in public and everyone observing he is sicker and more senile than Biden.

    Texas energizing the base by fighting the feds on the border. When is our Fort Sumter?

    Still pretending the economy is terrible.

    More media "viewing with alarm" the Heritage 2025 project and Trump's agenda to end our constitutional republic,

I could give you links to all of these but will just give you the new one. Search engines are handy.

https://democrats.org/news/new-maga-republicans-plan-for-donald-trump-to-end-medicare-as-we-know-it/


I need to buy more popcorn.

I also need to start putting out my Biden-Harris flag -

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Re: The 2024 Elections in the US, mostly for the POTUS

Postby jusplay4fun on Thu Feb 08, 2024 2:22 am

Keep watching those videos put out by the Democrat Party, GaryD. Keep getting "educated" (or in your case, brain-washed).
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