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1) One reason, imo, that Biden is NOT given credit for "success" on the US Economy is that most Americans DO NOT FEEL that they are, personally, or as a family, better off now than in 2021. Inflation may be "down" but is still there, gas prices may be down (much due to world petroleum supply and the switch to winter blends of fuel) BUT overall, most Americans ARE NOT better off. Yes, they may have a job, and so does their neighbor, and they may have gotten a slight pay raise, but that pay raise does not offset the impacts on inflation ON EVERYTHING.
I challenge the supporters of Biden to tell us how Biden's policies, his "Bidenomics" has made things better for the USA and for most Americans.
ConfederateSS wrote: Vote for Kamala
The poll, conducted by the Michigan-based Glengariff Group from Jan. 2 to Jan. 6, has the former president beating Biden by 8 points — 47 to 39 percent — among likely voters in the state.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/0 ... r-00134672
In a hypothetical head-to-head against Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, Trump’s lead did not hold up. He trailed the 52-year-old Whitmer by 4 percentage points, 45 to 49 percent. The finding underscores the pitfalls for Democrats of fielding an unpopular 81-year-old as their nominee.
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/0 ... r-00134672
pmac666 wrote:Theres something in motion you cannot comprehend. Cant wait for the tears tho.
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jusplay4fun wrote:Interesting: I listened to news and a financial report early this morning and a financial expert basically confirmed my entire hypothesis presented here:1) One reason, imo, that Biden is NOT given credit for "success" on the US Economy is that most Americans DO NOT FEEL that they are, personally, or as a family, better off now than in 2021. Inflation may be "down" but is still there, gas prices may be down (much due to world petroleum supply and the switch to winter blends of fuel) BUT overall, most Americans ARE NOT better off. Yes, they may have a job, and so does their neighbor, and they may have gotten a slight pay raise, but that pay raise does not offset the impacts on inflation ON EVERYTHING.
I have seen no one HERE in this Forum laud the actual accomplishments of Biden, just that the Economy and Jobs Reports are better (and are likely NOT due to anything [or very little, at best]) done by Biden.
My challenge is still HERE:I challenge the supporters of Biden to tell us how Biden's policies, his "Bidenomics" has made things better for the USA and for most Americans.
ConfederateSS wrote:-------The Iowa Caucuses...Biden skipping...
-------- The Democrats are having mail in ballots... Results on Super Tuesday...
-------- This is How American Elections should be always...How the Republicans are doing it...The right way....Paper Ballots...Same day results...
-------- Donald Trump Is Projected the Winner of The Republican Iowa Caucuses...With an Historic, never before Win...Maybe over 50% ...But destroyed his Republican rivals...The win was called at 8:32 pm Eastern Standard Time...Paper Ballots...ON ELECTION DAY(not weeks later)...Even France had mail in ballots, found they were to easy to mess with...They went back to paper ballots, day of election ...years ago...
------- For The LEFT, who hound him, The never Trumpers...All the money spent against him.......BOOM .... Americans haven't forgotten his successful Presidency....How American life was better under it... Historic TRUMP Win...(I use a lot of them...) PERIOD ....Grover Cleveland 2.0... ... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...
Some of these figures, notably the net job loss and gross domestic product, were affected by the COVID-19 pandemic, which struck in Trump’s final year in office, becoming a defining issue of his tenure. Scientists quickly developed very effective vaccines, two of which were authorized for emergency use in the U.S. while Trump was still president in December 2020. But by the day Trump left office, 401,000 people had died from the disease caused by the novel coronavirus, and the economic fallout was far from over.
Some data points appeared to weather the economic impact: After-tax corporate profits and crude oil production rose, and the stock market, after taking an initial hit, continued to set records. Other statistics run counter to claims or promises Trump made: For instance, illegal immigration, the trade deficit and the federal debt — measures he vowed to lower — went up instead, rising even before the 2020 global pandemic began.
As we’ve often said, readers may find these statistics to be good, bad or neutral, and opinions differ on how much credit or blame a president should get for what happens while he is in office. We leave those judgments to others.
Illegal immigration increased. Apprehensions at the Southwest border rose 14.7% last year compared with 2016.
As president, Trump saw 100 months of continuous U.S. monthly job gains end in February 2019 as the economy slowed. In 2020, job growth collapsed entirely when COVID-19 went from being a localized problem in Wuhan, China, to a global pandemic.
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And then the novel coronavirus struck. In two months, March and April 2020, the U.S. economy lost a staggering 22.4 million jobs.
The unemployment rate would continue to drop under Trump — until the pandemic. A month before widespread lockdowns would virtually shut down the economy, the unemployment rate stood at 3.5% in February 2020, the lowest since December 1969. During the pandemic, the unemployment rate peaked at 14.8% in April 2020, the highest since BLS began tracking the figure in 1948.
Labor Force Participation — Republicans frequently blamed then-President Barack Obama for a declining labor force participation rate — which is the percentage of the population age 16 and older that is either employed or looking for work in the previous four weeks. It’s true that the labor force participation rate declined, from 65.7% to 62.8%, during Obama’s two terms — although the downward trend began in 2000 and continued during Obama’s time in office, largely due to demographics, including the retirement of baby boomers.
Under Trump, the rate seemed to stabilize and even ticked upward, reaching a high of 63.4% in January 2020. But, by the time he left office, the rate had dropped to 61.4% — falling another 1.4 percentage points under Trump after going down 2.9 points during the Obama years.
A working paper published by the National Bureau of Economic Research found “the onset of the covid-19 crisis led to a wave of earlier than planned retirements.”
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Economic Growth
Even before the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. economy began slowing down. The real (inflation-adjusted) gross domestic product went up in Trump’s first two years, peaking at an estimated 2.9% in 2018 — the highest since 2005. But the economy grew only 2.3% in 2019 and the bottom fell out in 2020.
The number of apprehensions peaked in mid-2019, and the year ended with the highest number of apprehensions since 2007. In response, Trump issued several policies to reduce immigration flows, including measures to restrict eligibility for asylum and return non-Mexican asylum seekers who cross the Southwest border to Mexico while their claims work their way through immigration courts (the so-called “Remain in Mexico” program). Correspondingly, apprehensions dropped steadily through the second half of 2019 and into 2020.
And then, when the pandemic hit, apprehensions dropped even more dramatically in April and May 2020. As a result of the pandemic, there was an increased restriction on mobility, not just in the U.S. but around the world, Bolter said.
In response to the pandemic, Trump put into place a series of policies aimed at blocking migration to the U.S., including one that allowed border patrol to quickly expel any illegal immigrants they stopped, without access to the appeals system.
Wages and Inflation
During Trump’s four years in office, wages went up and inflation remained in check.
CPI — The Consumer Price Index rose 7.6% under Trump — continuing a long period of low inflation that appears to be coming to an end under Biden, as supply chain problems and other factors drive up costs.
The CPI rose an average of 1.9% each year of the Trump presidency (measured as the 12-month change ending each January), according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. That was about the same as the average under Obama (1.8%) and below the average of 2.4% during each of George W. Bush’s years.
jusplay4fun wrote:You still putting out FAKE NEWS.
You again cherry-pick a few things to paint a false narrative. Get Real and read more than headlines. Avoid spewing obfuscation, Pack Rat; that should diminish your posts by 90%.
You totally ignored my last post where I cited your own source and showed your obfuscation, lies, and misleading ideas. You missed the Big Picture because you are so myopic.
Pack Rat wrote:jusplay4fun wrote:You still putting out FAKE NEWS.
You again cherry-pick a few things to paint a false narrative. Get Real and read more than headlines. Avoid spewing obfuscation, Pack Rat; that should diminish your posts by 90%.
You totally ignored my last post where I cited your own source and showed your obfuscation, lies, and misleading ideas. You missed the Big Picture because you are so myopic.
Obfuscation and myopic?
...and as usual you want us to directly respond to your encyclopedia of copy/paste and word salad? Where do we start, before you fling more feces at us for more responses to your myriad of nonsense?
We are not ignoring your replies, we just don't follow and read all this crap you post here. You bury us with your word salad with myriad of salad dressing. Maybe I'm not using the right fork for your salad?
ConfederateSS wrote:------YES I SAID, SUCCESSFUL PRESIDENCY .... Something Obama and Biden will never know... Before you think it is political... Clinton had a SUCCESSFUL PRESIDENCY...Bush, and Bush jr did not......
---------F*ck the unemployment...80% of Americans like sitting on their asses, on The Tax Payer's dime...
-------- Let us take The BIG PICTURE
-------- A safe world....Trump use economics to bring Peace to The Middle East(never done before)...Under Trump...NO, I Say again...NO WARS raging around the globe...
-------- American Borders were the best run since , The turn of the 20th Century A.D...
-------- Everyone was enjoying a safer America... Everyone for the most part was getting along...
-------- Gas prices were down... Because, Trump made America Energy Independent...We didn't have to Lick OPEC's ASS... America was getting ready to start selling our Energy to the World...Bring our National Debt. Down...But The CHINA FLU hit the world...
-------- Food prices were low, because it cost less in gas to transport the food around the country...
-------- Our enemies Feared America, because they knew Trump wouldn't put up with anything...
--------- So , you were trying to say something RODENT... Maybe you were/are locked in your house, not just Covid, but from January 20th, 2017 A.D. ...
---------Still are hiding in your basement , like an Unsuccessful Biden Administration PRESIDENCY...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...
--------Since IKE, America's Golden Age, America has had only 3 Successful Presidents... Reagan, Clinton and Trump......
The prospect of another Trump term is the greatest foreseeable disaster that can befall the United States and the world. Trump is likely to be 10 times more dangerous this time around, because he won’t allow any adults in the White House to act as a check on his worst instincts — no more Jim Mattis as defense secretary, John F. Kelly as chief of staff, or H.R. McMaster as national security adviser. In a second term, Trump is likely to only appoint advisers as unhinged as he is.
[Biden] has managed to pass big, bipartisan bills, including infrastructure legislation that Trump only talked about. He has been even more impressive internationally, assembling a large coalition to oppose Russia’s war of aggression in Ukraine and another coalition in East Asia to deter China from aggression of its own. The economy — the ultimate barometer of a president’s performance — has been doing much better than expected, with low unemployment, declining inflation, and no recession in sight. That’s a record any president can be proud of. Yet the polls haven’t been giving Biden the credit he is due, possibly because perceptions of the economy still lag the reality.
GaryDenton wrote:Trump's biggest accomplishment is creating the most gullible deluded fanbase in history, only comparable to Hitler, Mussolini, and other totalitarian regimes.
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