Cleared Anglo Brown & zeus066168 [ka]

[Joram]

Accused:
Anglo Brown
player]zeus066168[/player]


The accused are suspected of: Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):

Game 22383902
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]
[game]xxxxxxx[/game]


Comments: In the game I am currently playing(22383902) zeus066168 has made irrational moves which favor Anglo Brown(the clear front runner). I took a look at their game history together and it seems to be a repeated pattern.

[thegroover]

Additional info. Four other multi games played that have been completed they have won two each. Another is down to 3 players they are still in. That does not include the game the OP is complaining about.

[Anglo Brown]

"I took a look at their game history together and it seems to be a repeated pattern."

This is a contradiction since I have lost several 3+ player games to zeus. In fact, I have lost more points to zeus than I have gained from zeus. That makes no sense in a world zeus is tanking games to farm points for me. In that case, wouldn't zeus sabotage all the games we're both in and wouldn't I lose no games to him? The accusation makes no sense.

I don't know what tools the mods have at their disposal to investigate accusations of cheating, but I am fully compliant, so please let me know what I can do to settle this.

Thanks.

[Donelladan]

That makes no sense in a world zeus is tanking games to farm points for me. In that case, wouldn't zeus sabotage all the games we're both in and wouldn't I lose no games to him? The accusation makes no sense.

Not if you're playing multiplayer games, because you get points from other players, so in this case it make sense to win half of the games.

That being said, looking at game history, Anglo got 3k games, zeus 7k games played, and only 9 games together.
Doesn't mean they couldn't do SD for one or two games, but history doesn't really points towards this.

in this ongoing game Game 22375914, three player remain, and Anglo is teaming with the 3rd player again zeus. -> so they're definitely not cheating in every game they're in.

in this finished game Game 17384985 zeus eliminated Anglo first. ( you don't do that when you're doing SD, you eliminate him last or almost last).

. I took a look at their game history together and it seems to be a repeated pattern.

=> no doesn't seem to be. If you've got some evidence of it, you could show them ( show logs, positions, move that back your claim.


Maybe you could just consider that zeus isn't a really good player ( seeing his rank after 7k games) and that he just focus on his situation without looking at the big picture of what's happening in the game. So many player do that, playing without checking the log just trying to grab whatever bonus is in front of them.
Hence that would explain zeus attacking you while Anglo is the leader. He just doesn't care/check.

[Anglo Brown]

That makes no sense in a world zeus is tanking games to farm points for me. In that case, wouldn't zeus sabotage all the games we're both in and wouldn't I lose no games to him? The accusation makes no sense.

Not if you're playing multiplayer games, because you get points from other players, so in this case it make sense to win half of the games.

That being said, looking at game history, Anglo got 3k games, zeus 7k games played, and only 9 games together.
Doesn't mean they couldn't do SD for one or two games, but history doesn't really points towards this.

in this ongoing game Game 22375914, three player remain, and Anglo is teaming with the 3rd player again zeus. -> so they're definitely not cheating in every game they're in.

in this finished game Game 17384985 zeus eliminated Anglo first. ( you don't do that when you're doing SD, you eliminate him last or almost last).

. I took a look at their game history together and it seems to be a repeated pattern.

=> no doesn't seem to be. If you've got some evidence of it, you could show them ( show logs, positions, move that back your claim.


Maybe you could just consider that zeus isn't a really good player ( seeing his rank after 7k games) and that he just focus on his situation without looking at the big picture of what's happening in the game. So many player do that, playing without checking the log just trying to grab whatever bonus is in front of them.
Hence that would explain zeus attacking you while Anglo is the leader. He just doesn't care/check.

Your first point is fair. I hadn't considered that. I agree with your analysis.

[king achilles]

Donelladan pretty much closed this report. Thank you man. I agree with his analysis and I also took a look at their games together. Zeus066168 is probably not that good (like me) and plays his own game, and in this game, as you say or from your own point of view, made moves that looks to be favorable to red.