Best map for lots of players

by **sethowar** on Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:10 pm

I'm about to set up a game for 12 people, of which 3-4 haven't played risk before.

Has anyone got a suggestion of a map which is great for a large number of people, but also not too complicated?

by **2dimes** on Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:46 pm

Botland.

by **MichelSableheart** on Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:27 am

World 2.1 is what comes to mind. A large map (everybody would start with 9 territories) with plenty of bonuses to go around. The only thing different from normal play is that some continents together comprise supercontinents.

If you're looking for something a bit smaller, Fractured America would be a reasonable choice. Everybody starts with only 7 territories, exactly as 6 player classic. The only special feature there is the bonus for holding capitals.

by **i-andrei** on Fri Nov 04, 2022 2:25 am

You also have Eurasia and First Nations.

by **pmchugh** on Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:22 am

I would second World 2.1. It's just a big map of the world, relatable, nothing too complicated.

by **jusplay4fun** on Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:13 pm

Yes, World 2.1, First Nations, and Eurasia are large maps with few complexities. I agree with what most posted already.

by **loutil** on Sat Nov 05, 2022 9:35 am

While it can be difficult to look at, Hive is a great map for multi player games and learning basic strategies.

by **Dukasaur** on Sun Nov 06, 2022 9:40 pm

loutil wrote:While it can be difficult to look at, Hive is a great map for multi player games and learning basic strategies.

I'm sorry, but I can't see how one can learn strategy on a map that has more variables than a person can store in memory.

(And before you enjoy the thought that you're just a supergenius and I'm a total idiot, I can tell you that I have a verified IQ of 147.)

by **iAmCaffeine** on Mon Nov 07, 2022 12:14 pm

what do you class as a variable? in my mind hive has very few

by **loutil** on Wed Nov 09, 2022 8:08 am

Dukasaur wrote:
loutil wrote:While it can be difficult to look at, Hive is a great map for multi player games and learning basic strategies.

I'm sorry, but I can't see how one can learn strategy on a map that has more variables than a person can store in memory.

(And before you enjoy the thought that you're just a supergenius and I'm a total idiot, I can tell you that I have a verified IQ of 147.)

We can agree to disagree. Hive is a large but very basic map. But, it teaches the importance of tert count and troop allocation to bonus or defense.

by **Nymeria Stark** on Sat Nov 12, 2022 3:58 am

loutil wrote:While it can be difficult to look at, Hive is a great map for multi player games and learning basic strategies.

But is it the most fun map for people who haven't played before?

I'd vote Eurasia.

by **Dukasaur** on Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:04 am

iAmCaffeine wrote:what do you class as a variable? in my mind hive has very few

Normally when you look at a map you evaluate the potential bonus by how much it will give you versus how likely it is to be broken. Now in Hive there are something like 60 bonus zones. Even the smallest ones can be broken from two places and most can be broken from many. I think the average is around 5. So that's something like 300 doors you have to consider even on the simplest reading of the map. That's not even counting how hard the bonus itself is to clean out, how many enemy or neutral terts are in it, which is probably another 300 things to consider. So before you drop a single troop, if you are to really take it seriously, you have to evaluate about 600 variables and then remember what you decided about each bonus zone, unless you are going to take the time to write it down (but that itself creates another level of difficulty since none of them are labelled or anything.)

Usually what happens is that I start evaluating the bonus zones starting from the top left, working down then across. Usually around a quarter of the way across the map my patience is exhausted and I start attacking shit without even looking at the other 3/4 of the map.

by **iAmCaffeine** on Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:26 am

interesting take lol

by **2dimes** on Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:52 pm

Do you guys figure this guy and his eleven buddys are carefully considering your suggestions?

by **MichelSableheart** on Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:11 am

It's a fun question to consider and debate either way.

by **jusplay4fun** on Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:14 am

MichelSableheart wrote:It's a fun question to consider and debate either way.

exactly.

and the guy who posed the question in the OP has...............ZERO games, btw.

by **Dukasaur** on Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:08 am

jusplay4fun wrote:
MichelSableheart wrote:It's a fun question to consider and debate either way.

exactly.

and the guy who posed the question in the OP has...............ZERO games, btw.

Yeah, the thread was started by a spambot, that is obvious. However, as Sableheart said, it's a fun question to debate. Does it matter how it began?