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Re: Astronomy!

Postby DoomYoshi on Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:10 am

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Re: Astronomy!

Postby 2dimes on Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:54 am

Looking at who taught who? Not for me today thanks.

Reminds me of Kung Fu lineage. It can be interesting to find out when a person changed things and broke away from other students to start doing things slightly different, sometimes creating a new style, but for some it becomes an odd obsession.

jusplay4fun wrote:What little I read online suggested that July 23 was the last date to see the Neowise Comet easily.

2dimes wrote:This is quite strange. The what is observable tonight part of https://theskylive.com/guide says we should be able to see the comet Neowise with naked eyes from near where we went last night.

That should have been true for last night also but we did not see it.

It was pretty clear out and light pollution is not bad there. We saw it from very close to there last time. I wonder why we didn't find it last night?


Things I read also were suggesting it was probable the 23rd would be the last night to view it, but nothing I read was certain.

Now I am wondering if it is basically very difficult to see now, or nearly impossible.

There are several other comets out there but I doubt I have the skills to find any at this time, maybe I will get lucky at some point though.

https://theskylive.com is excellent but maybe no one updated the info on the comet.

Or I just failed to find the new information. There is another part of the site that came up just now when I clicked that shorter link. I'm having difficulty reading it because it keeps crashing on my device.

Regarding the comet c2020 f3 (Neowise), it says, "it should be barely visible to the naked eye, easily visible with the help of a small binocular." It's possible we just did not find it since it's magnitude went down so much. Or we were looking at it but could not see the tail and thought it was just a star.

Part of the problem might be finding the bugger. The night we did see it we did not get to know the comets position very well. We just remember it was somewhere around the Big Dipper. If I knew where to aim my scope I might be able to see it still.

Of course the clouds seem to have come back.
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Re: Astronomy!

Postby jusplay4fun on Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:16 am

Mars rover to launch July 30:

https://www.space.com/news/live/mars-perseverance-rover-updates

Hopefully there will be NO Delays in the Launch. It will take some 7 months or so to get there.
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Re: Astronomy!

Postby jimboston on Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:05 am

jusplay4fun wrote:Mars rover to launch July 30:

https://www.space.com/news/live/mars-perseverance-rover-updates

Hopefully there will be NO Delays in the Launch. It will take some 7 months or so to get there.


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Re: Astronomy!

Postby 2dimes on Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:19 pm

I would like to see a launch of some kind in person someday. That seems like it would be cool at least once.
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Re: Astronomy!

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:37 pm

2dimes wrote:This is quite strange. The what is observable tonight part of https://theskylive.com/guide says we should be able to see the comet Neowise with naked eyes from near where we went last night.

That should have been true for last night also but we did not see it.

It was pretty clear out and light pollution is not bad there. We saw it from very close to there last time. I wonder why we didn't find it last night?


There's too much moon now, anyway. Needed to look when there was no moon.
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Re: Astronomy!

Postby 2dimes on Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:32 pm

It also went from a magnitude of one before the 23rd of July, down to three decimal something.
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Re: Astronomy!

Postby WILLIAMS5232 on Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:16 pm

2dimes wrote:I have not seen andromeda galaxy or any of the Messier catalog yet.
I hopefully will be able to do a bit more observing.
Currently I'm able to get out fairly easily.

So far this year we have probably put in too much time and effort looking at Sarurn but there are some reasons for that.
  • I am currently in awe looking at those rings in person.
  • One thing this thread has taught me is how often it's cloudy.
  • My observing partner is not a morning guy but also struggles to stay up late.
  • It seems I was fortunate to see the comet Neowise that one semi clear evening.

I'm quoting this from a sub forum chat because it looks like a pretty interesting list.
DoomYoshi wrote:Get to work on the Messier objects.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messier_object

We will see but I'm thinking about giving it a try eventually.

My current next potential target when the planets go away is a ring nebula located in Lyra. There's a great small picture of it in one of my books, it might be setting me up for disappointment.


show: book


https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/20 ... ing-nebula


i'm with you on saturn, i would have never believed i would have seen the rings in person. it's an amazing sight.
the ring nebula is a good start, actually that was the first thing i found with my 5" scope. mainly because i only had a small window off my apartment balcony at the time and it was one of the things that was in that window... and unfortunately i was south of houston, and my balcony faced north so i got all the glory of the usa's 4th largest city worth of light pollution.

with that said, after about 2 hours i finally found it. and it was pretty non-dramatic. it looked like a fuzzy cheerio. and i probably saw it 20 times before i actually realized i saw it, but it's good to find, so you know what to expect for the other things. you can't expect to see extraordinary images in a 5' scope. to be honest, my 10" is not a whole lot better, but it is a very noticable difference.

for me tho' i've accepted that i won't see hubble quality images. i just enjoy locating things and learning the constellations. and yes, the planets are always worth a peek when they're out. but to be honest, i'm just amazed to turn my scope to any random portion of the sky and see the hundreds of stars that are not visible with your eye. the globular clusters are amazing.

you have plenty of time. there's a good quote i've always remembered that goes like this;
"the ox is slow, but the earth is patient"

2dimes wrote:I would like to see a launch of some kind in person someday. That seems like it would be cool at least once.

i'm with you there. i grew up in biloxi ms, where nasa has a test facility, about 20 miles away. (stennis space center) we had a field trip and got to watch them test a shuttle rocket engine. it wasn't a launch, just a burn. we were probably a few miles away, it was very impressive amount of power.
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Re: Astronomy!

Postby 2dimes on Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:32 pm

That sounds really interesting.

I like reading this topic, there is some really good content here.

Perseids meteor shower has begun again.

https://www.amsmeteors.org/meteor-showe ... -calendar/
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Re: Astronomy!

Postby 2dimes on Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:25 am

I just looked out the kitchen window and saw Venus, it's really bright obviously since I almost have to look past a streetlight standing there.

Basically there are four streetlights shining in our yard you can literally sit out there and read a book.

On occasion I have seen the aurora borealis out the north facing kitchen window. Sometimes they are pretty bright.

Mercury is going to rise soon but I think it will be behind the two story duplexes that replaced the bungalows across the alley. Venus is over the remaining bungalow behind ours.


update:
Just looked again at 05:36 and the sun is rising. I couldn't see Venus anymore. Have a great day everyone.
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Re: Astronomy!

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:42 am

for JimBoston:

People also ask
What do you study in astronomy?
Astronomy is the branch of science that studies the universe, the stars and the planets. Astronomy combines aspects of maths and physics to study how the universe was formed and the celestial bodies that are contained within it. It is the oldest of the natural sciences.Nov 20, 2019


With this probe (Launch) are we not studying Mars, A PLANET??

https://www.google.com/search?q=astronomy&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS777US777&oq=astronomy&aqs=chrome..69i57j46j0l3j69i61l3.3495j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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Re: Astronomy!

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:45 am

from where I live in Virginia, I have seen the glow and the rise of the rocket from Wallops Island, Virginia. Does that count?

It was so bright that I could see the glow without any lenses (with my naked eyes)....it was GREAT..!

https://www.nasa.gov/centers/wallops/home

2dimes wrote:I would like to see a launch of some kind in person someday. That seems like it would be cool at least once.
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Re: Astronomy!

Postby 2dimes on Sun Aug 02, 2020 8:34 am

I want to watch the unit lift off and rise up until it departs and goes out of sight. I want to feel vibrations and have to plug my ears.

One of the magazines I have, from January, had a description of the full moon appearing quite close to Jupiter and Saturn, it was supposed to occur last night. Sounded potentially interesting to see with the naked eye or possibly binoculars. I was hoping to take a look.

It was raining pretty hard when it got dark out so I just went to bed. Sigh.
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Re: Astronomy!

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:42 pm

Watching SpaceX return and splashdown LIVE, now....Great Stuff, the Right Stuff.....
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Re: Astronomy!

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:50 pm

successful Splashdown...! around 2.45 EDT....Fast Boats going to meet them, now.....
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Re: Astronomy!

Postby HitRed on Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:49 pm

Tonight at 9:15 Texas time the Space Station will be glowing brightly.
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Re: Astronomy!

Postby riskllama on Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:34 pm

Texas has its own time zone?
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Re: Astronomy!

Postby 2dimes on Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:44 pm

I believe the ISS is moving at seventeen thousand miles per hour.
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Re: Astronomy!

Postby HitRed on Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:52 pm

riskllama wrote:Texas has its own time zone?


Texas time starts with ice tea.
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Re: Astronomy!

Postby 2dimes on Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:23 pm

Iced tea here is usually from the fountain drink machine and has a lot of sugar.

We brew tea then put it in the refrigerator at home though.
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Re: Astronomy!

Postby riskllama on Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:26 pm

2dimes wrote:Iced tea here is usually from the fountain drink machine and has a lot of sugar.


i prefer to mix my own & use waayyy too much powder/crystals - 1/4" of sludge @ the bottom of your vessel is optimal...;)
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Re: Astronomy!

Postby HitRed on Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:31 pm

Unsweetened. Avoid the blood veins from popping.

2 gallons, tea bag, place in the sun for an hour. Place in refrigerator. Drink with ice in a tall glass.
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Re: Astronomy!

Postby WILLIAMS5232 on Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:14 pm

i grew up in the south, but was raised on unsweet. my dad wasn't trying to be healthy, not sure why we did unsweet since sweet is kind of a thing in the south, i guess he just preferred it. but i can't drink sweet tea, it just isn't refreshing, and you can't even taste the tea. just syrup. now, i do have a thing for eating a peppermint while drinking the tea, so that's kind of a sweet thing, but i don't do it all the time. and honestly if the tea was sweet, i would think the peppermint would be awful. kind of like cereal and orange juice.

i drink lots of it.
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Re: Astronomy!

Postby riskllama on Thu Aug 06, 2020 11:25 pm

yes, syrup - that's how i like it. sorry, stargazers - i'll see myself out.
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Re: Astronomy!

Postby 2dimes on Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:43 am

I used to love nestea, brisk and good host.

Wife was excited when we went to the US because she could get unsweetened ice tea. First time I tried it I was not happy. Eventually I came around.

Now we will seek out Sonic locations just to get route 44 unsweetened ice teas.
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