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Re: Donelladan - spurious report and secret diplomacy

Postby IcePack on Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:06 am

You’re the one bringing up personal issues not me. My report stands for itself and I’m not attacking you personally or otherwise, just posting facts. Something you seem incapable of refraining from doing, not sure why you think me posting you here is somehow personal and tied to something that happened ages ago and completely unrelated.

If you can’t understand why you are reported for discussing an ongoing game, while outside of the chat, and not alerting people in that game then I’m not sure how I can explain it to you further. Well see what the mods say
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Re: Donelladan - spurious report and secret diplomacy

Postby Donelladan on Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:27 am

You're not known to report people on a regular basis.
You've got no reason to open this report since you have no relation to that game at all.
How is that not personal ? How many C&A reports did you open since you play on CC ? You've made 12 reports including this one.


Btw, I've pasted you the rule of secret diplomacy above. It is not forbidden to discuss ongoing game with third parties.
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Re: Donelladan - spurious report and secret diplomacy

Postby IcePack on Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:41 pm

Donelladan wrote:You're not known to report people on a regular basis.
You've got no reason to open this report since you have no relation to that game at all.How is that not personal ? How many C&A reports did you open since you play on CC ? You've made 12 reports including this one.

Btw, I've pasted you the rule of secret diplomacy above. It is not forbidden to discuss ongoing game with third parties.


I regularly report Multis privately, and have always been involved in this area (up to and including as a MH & C&A mod). Just because I made a report doesn’t make it personal, or are you saying I only make reports when it’s personal? Anyway, again. That really doesn’t matter for the case yet you continue to make it personal, why idk

I reported because you reported viewtopic.php?f=5&t=233691
It’s really that simple. I wouldn’t have reported had you not spuriously reported someone else. They didn’t deadbeat.

I believe it’s been said on top of the rules you copy and pasted, that game related things must be in chat. Thus I included it as part of my report. I don’t believe I’m wrong, just like SD on someone’s wall, there’s been times people barely say more than “go check chat” that’s been noted / warned as SD. It’s a fairly strict requirement that I don’t believe you met, especially since anyone who reads C&A would have additional knowledge and you were generic in game answering the question. but if I am that’s ok. The report you made is still spurious.

I’m off for my vacation, unlikely to post further until after / or mods rule on it.
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Re: Donelladan - spurious report and secret diplomacy

Postby Doc_Brown on Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:14 pm

To add to IcePack's comment. We know for certain that at least one other person from that game (apart from Don) read the information in Don's C&A report. In fact, Don posted a link to the post containing information about who was his target on rock's wall. By the letter of the law, this is secret diplomacy.

Also, in regards to your question back to me in that game, my only purpose for posting the information was to be fair to everyone. At least one (and I think 2-3) of the other players in that game saw the C&A thread you opened and were therefore aware of secret information you shared about your target. The others were not, so I made sure everyone had the same information. I've done similarly from time to time (pointing players to C&A threads about them, providing links to forum threads in games where fairness dictates all players should see it, etc...).
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Re: Donelladan - spurious report and secret diplomacy

Postby zeus111 on Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:01 pm

one can argue he made that post to save his victory as if rockfist did db he would have a new target making it harder to win the assassins game, rock fist was down to 2 territories with 2 missed turns the 3rd miss dons target changed i assume to a player with more then 2 regions

the secret diplomacy is rubbish but the posting of the deadbeat issue seemed premature and is the only issue here as an argument can be made he reported the game to keep his target in the game with 2 areas to hit for the w


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Re: Donelladan - spurious report and secret diplomacy

Postby rockfist on Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:43 pm

Don wrote this on my wall, which is more than asking me to read game chat...


https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=19885763
why are you missing turns in this game ? are you planning to deadbeat ?

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Re: Donelladan - spurious report and secret diplomacy

Postby riskllama on Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:29 pm

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Re: Donelladan - spurious report and secret diplomacy

Postby mc05025 on Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:37 pm

rockfist wrote:Don wrote this on my wall, which is more than asking me to read game chat...


https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=19885763
why are you missing turns in this game ? are you planning to deadbeat ?

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by Donelladan
on Sat Jun 27, 2020 2:00 pm



2 missed turns from an active player in an assasin game with so many players at round 20+

You deserve a warning for being annoying and in general destroying a long game while also wasting the time of so many other people.

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Re: Donelladan - spurious report and secret diplomacy

Postby king achilles on Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:52 pm

To clarify, I do not think that the other report was spurious at all since the player in question was missing his turns deliberately while taking turns to his other games.
That wall post is also not a secret diplomacy talk.

And before one of you files another revengeful report, stop it now or it will backfire on you. The Flame forum has long been gone.

It's time for many of you to find better ways to spend your time.
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