Warned Multis: Writergirl15, Fogernth, & Bwana[ES]

[zeus111]

It's only a f*****g game folks. There are more important things going on in the world than worrying how many points are won or lost. If those other players have concerns, then put them on your FOE list. Then you won't have to worry about it.

aalii

it may only be a game but when its discovered some one is out right cheating something needs to be done to up hold integrity of the game ..

[Elaterate]

It's only a f*****g game folks. There are more important things going on in the world than worrying how many points are won or lost. If those other players have concerns, then put them on your FOE list. Then you won't have to worry about it.

aalii

This makes no sense to me lol.

Are you saying the website shouldn't worry about players manipulating it?

Or the player that holds the Conquer Title just needs to FOE someone who passes their score by cheating and all is good??

Nobody should worry about getting a "harder" draw in an auto Tournament cause they joined with "less" points then someone else who manipulated their score before joining??

I doubt many members on here could do anything about the "more important things going on in the world"

[KoolBak]

Well ES, you say bwana's response was unconvincing. You're talking about the very lengthy detailed reply he gave privately I assume. You're certainly harder to convince than I.

Assuming these were faceless conniving cheaters (as apparently they appear to Zeus at al), I wouldn't give a damn about the decision.

Unfortunately I know Bwana as a friend and know what kind of person he is and read his side of the story. Blocking a father from playing with his children is completely fucking asenine, IMHO. I'm sure Zeus or nomad patriot will pipe up. Unfortunately, to me, you're faceless internet nobodies....like I am to you....lol.

Sad. Apparently, ES, you also have ties to our group going back as far as I do...not that it matters, but I am disappointed. Sadly many accounts will be lost. Again, in the grand scheme of things...who cares, right? Out.....

[zeus111]

Well ES, you say bwana's response was unconvincing. You're talking about the very lengthy detailed reply he gave privately I assume. You're certainly harder to convince than I.

Assuming these were faceless conniving cheaters (as apparently they appear to Zeus at al), I wouldn't give a damn about the decision.

Unfortunately I know Bwana as a friend and know what kind of person he is and read his side of the story. Blocking a father from playing with his children is completely fucking asenine, IMHO. I'm sure Zeus or nomad patriot will pipe up. Unfortunately, to me, you're faceless internet nobodies....like I am to you....lol.

Sad. Apparently, ES, you also have ties to our group going back as far as I do...not that it matters, but I am disappointed. Sadly many accounts will be lost. Again, in the grand scheme of things...who cares, right? Out.....

the matter is closed we get it hes your friend however your friend cheated and i have found so many more shady games its not even funny originally i looked through 92 3 way games . yesterday i went through many more and lets just say this member is lucky to still be a member of cc club . i have found 2 other accounts i suspect he uses as well . the block was and is warranted when we have a member using 3 accounts like an atm machine for free points .

[glide]

As Gatekeeper of Xi for the past decade or so, may I make a suggestion? I propose that Bwana, Writergirl15, and Fogernth be allowed to play private games within our Xi circle, with Xi members and invited guests only. It is unfairly restrictive, but seems to be a solution that hopefully everyone can live with. Xi is, after all, a separate entity within CC, and although I do not believe for a minute that the charges are valid, this way, only Xi members would be subject to any shenannigans. Who knows, Bwana's offspring may even get to like our bullshit free zone. What say ye? And I would be asking the decision makers when I say that.

[zeus111]

As Gatekeeper of Xi for the past decade or so, may I make a suggestion? I propose that Bwana, Writergirl15, and Fogernth be allowed to play private games within our Xi circle, with Xi members and invited guests only. It is unfairly restrictive, but seems to be a solution that hopefully everyone can live with. Xi is, after all, a separate entity within CC, and although I do not believe for a minute that the charges are valid, this way, only Xi members would be subject to any shenannigans. Who knows, Bwana's offspring may even get to like our bullshit free zone. What say ye? And I would be asking the decision makers when I say that.

why not send that in a pm this is a closed c@a forum . a case that sad is it is went against the accused . but since you made this public ill respond .

your group is still subject to all cc club rules and unfortunately a member of this group broke those and a decision was handed down and a justifiable block has been put in place , if you cant see whats what here take the blinders off and look into all evidence provided . xi would not exist with out cc club and its members are cc club members first and foremost . xi is a group of players using cc club dont for get that . u set up private games for ten years does not entitle you and this group anything , all site rule/rulings apply to all who play on site .

you seem to think this group is not subject to rules of the site i see but i can assure you that all who play on cc club are subject to the same rules regardless . your request to allow the 3 to continue to play with in the group should be denied and i can assure you the accused is guilty of manipulating our scoring system with out a doubt .

a separate entity as u put it ok sure but its still subject too all site rules of fair play and also subject to all rulings of sites mods . why is it u feel this one group is above all others on site ??

bwana account was cheating and has been lucky in my opinion to remain on site . to log into 3 accounts set games up and obtain 315 points breaks so many rules its not funny , but hey lets let them continue cause a separate entity of site will be effected only is just out right rubbish

zeus111

[zeus111]

not sure if i should open new form or just post here


can we ask if member Dlopez8 is also a family member 69 games in 37 with the bwana fam. ??????????


have to say this game interests me https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=19428217

in chat we can see that pink has 3 assassins .

looking into the 37 games ill say it can we check ip addy on dlopez8 . if its same ip that s a shame .

new member joining alot of games on real tough boards , foggy coliseum foggy assassins in first short time on site .coupled with the 4 way games with bwana tribe has me wondering . if its another family member perhaps adding them in the block may be warranted

im going to out right ask a question how many accounts does bwana have passwords too and why is it so many foggy assasins / coliseum foggy matches they seem too all join ?? we already know its possible he is seeing 3 versions of the board is this now the 4th . i feel bad to suggest this but man oh man whats going on here. it just isnt fair straight up game play .

man i hope im wrong here at first glance all i saw was the point grab in ten games with 3 members . at a hard look this member is sure joining alot of games with a clear advantage using 3 possibly 4 accounts to out right cheat in a massive amount of games . to see the board in foggy games all 4 of them seem to play an awful lot of coupled with our members commenting on game play we need to take a real hard look into this issue

[zeus111]

should we open new case or just leave it here ?

[Scarlet Lady]

I have only just seen this thread but want to add the following:

I played 9 x 3-player Poison Rome games against Bwana and Writer Girl back in April for the monthly challenge and Bwana won all nine of them. They were obviously cheating as WG kept attacking me when B was clearly winning. I couldn't be bothered to file a complaint but have kept clear of them every since.

If I were still a member of Xi I wouldn't play with them in any of those games either and it is a shame to see the "honour and integrity" of that group blighted by their support of players that don't play fairly.

[riskllama]

I have only just seen this thread but want to add the following:

I played 9 x 3-player Poison Rome games against Bwana and Writer Girl back in April for the monthly challenge and Bwana won all nine of them. They were obviously cheating as WG kept attacking me when B was clearly winning. I couldn't be bothered to file a complaint but have kept clear of them every since.

If I were still a member of Xi I wouldn't play with them in any of those games either and it is a shame to see the "honour and integrity" of that group blighted by their support of players that don't play fairly.

this case seems to have taken a rather greasy turn...

[zeus111]

I have only just seen this thread but want to add the following:

I played 9 x 3-player Poison Rome games against Bwana and Writer Girl back in April for the monthly challenge and Bwana won all nine of them. They were obviously cheating as WG kept attacking me when B was clearly winning. I couldn't be bothered to file a complaint but have kept clear of them every since.

If I were still a member of Xi I wouldn't play with them in any of those games either and it is a shame to see the "honour and integrity" of that group blighted by their support of players that don't play fairly.

please in the future if you feel this way bring it forward . sorry you went through that but because a member did report it all this has been brought to light . its our members that are the best defense against cheating as in this case a member has suspicions on 3 players and turns out all three play from same computer . had that member just let it go we never would have discovered what i believe is one of the biggest cheater in cc club history . at least it wont happen again but took it being brought forward .

best of luck in all others scarlet lady

[riskllama]

is there a list of this xi group? i think i'm going to foe all of them except for KB...

[zeus111]

is there a list of this xi group? i think i'm going to foe all of them except for KB...

oh lamma why let one bad apple spoil the bunch . i looked into them they are harmless loyal friends it appears they just coming to aid there long time friend . one who has made some bad choices it appears . the member glide is retired canadian military [thank you glide for your service!!!!!!!!!!] so not that i take you serious in any way but on the off chance you are no need to foe a group who has zero to do with the actions of one

[glide]

Enough. I made a suggestion, and stand by that offer. And just for the record, Xi Games existed before Conquer Club. We adhere to CC rules, and have the right to insist our members adhere to ours. Period. I request that whoever is in the position to make the decision please pm me with that info. Have a nice day.

[glide]

Enough. I made a suggestion, and stand by that offer. And just for the record, Xi Games existed before Conquer Club. We adhere to CC rules, and have the right to insist our members adhere to ours. Period. I request that whoever actually is in a position to make the decision pm me with their decision. Have a nice day.

[zeus111]

Enough. I made a suggestion, and stand by that offer. And just for the record, Xi Games existed before Conquer Club. We adhere to CC rules, and have the right to insist our members adhere to ours. Period. I request that whoever actually is in a position to make the decision pm me with their decision. Have a nice day.

highly doubtful .and here is why

https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=19384338 2019-10-01 01:31:19 - Bwana gained 7 points
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=19384337 2019-10-01 01:31:07 - Bwana gained 7 points
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=19384336 2019-10-01 01:30:15 - Bwana gained 8 points
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=19384335 2019-10-01 01:30:55 - Bwana gained 8 points
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=19384334 2019-10-01 01:30:06 - Bwana gained 8 points
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=19384311 2019-10-01 01:14:54 - Bwana gained 8 points
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=19384310 2019-10-01 01:13:48 - Bwana gained 8 points
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=19384309 2019-10-01 01:13:45 - Bwana gained 9 points
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=19384308 2019-10-01 01:13:33 - Bwana gained 9 points
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=19384307 2019-10-01 01:13:38 - Bwana gained 9 points

heads up 1 min games with fogenth . games were fogenth needed to be online to join yet in all not a turn taken

https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=19417993 2019-10-17 22:57:42 - Bwana gained 31 points
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=19417992 2019-10-17 22:57:46 - Bwana gained 33 points
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=19417991 2019-10-17 22:58:11 - Bwana gained 34 points
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=19417990 2019-10-17 22:57:09 - Bwana gained 36 points
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=19417989 2019-10-17 22:57:29 - Bwana gained 36 points
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=19384277 2019-10-01 01:03:49 - Bwana gained 29 points
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=19384276 019-10-01 01:03:00 - Bwana gained 31 points
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=19384274 2019-10-01 01:03:39 - Bwana gained 30 points
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=19384273 2019-10-01 01:02:41 - Bwana gained 33 points
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=18983881 2019-03-31 15:48:02 - Bwana gained 22 points

3way games writtergirl15 and fogernth

over 400 points transfer to bwana . look at the time stamps in game log all these games are set up 5 at a time and know way could be played out never seen a more blatant direct point grab . if you cant see it well im sure you can , the above is not the only issue by far .we established he has 3 sets of passwords possibly 4 . all foggy assassins/ coliseum games they enter our members are questioning i submit is the worst cheating case on site . he can see vital territories using just the 3 accounts u must see it just like the members that have questioned it , as u can see the block is and was needed to assure a fair and level game field

zeus111

[zeus111]

is any one looking into dlopez8

[iAmCaffeine]

You're better off making a separate report.

[Irrumare]

We adhere to CC rules

Apparently not

[Elaterate]

Blocking a father from playing with his children is completely fucking asenine, IMHO.

When you don't look at the facts this statement would be true. If my father was stealing from me and putting my good name in jeopardy I would hope someone had the ability to block him from doing it anymore.

[lokisgal]

I dont think Bwana is the "father" writer girl is clearly an adult. Mulit;s the lot of them

[riskllama]

lol, is this saga still going on??? just ban them already & disband Xi. case closed, NEXT.

[Elaterate]

lol, is this saga still going on??? just ban them already & disband Xi. case closed, NEXT.

I do believe the "investigation" is over but the backlash of the matter is still in affect lol. Bwana continues to defend himself solely through PMs while others like me make "callous" (bwana's words) remarks about the situation.

He claims (to me through PM and supposedly to admin) that he had nothing to do with any of this... That it was "an act done by my children" (adult aged children) who chose to cheat for him and they "didn't see any harm in it"... WOW!

He expects an apology from me... I expect an innocent man to defend himself publicly when he is accused of something so drastic. Don't think either will happen here.

[zeus111]

if it was his kids doing this why after the first series of games set this was not discovered by dad, the early oct games were 300 plus points changed hands would have caught his attention , or the 18months the 4 accounts were used to play so many foggy assassins games were inside the games we can see members comments like i have 3 assassins , the late oct speeders show us a lot . the 4 way games between Writergirl15, Fogernth, & Bwana and dlopez8 are in question as well in certain games turns 1 min apart a few games seconds apart show us whats what . they stated only one computer and take turn taking turns .

i have seen more then enough to safely say for the most part in my opinion its one person running 4 accounts affecting hundreds of games countless points all ending up in bwana account as well as a ton of medal points gained less then straight up .


there is only one thing the accused could say IT WASNT ME !!! but has to realize this game play was caught by the very members they were duping.its safe to say they or he was seeing all aspects of a foggy board with in some cases 4 accounts in play. the high number of the games won by the bwana account a monthly challange was won via this method .

was the kids involved in this for the 18 months this was going on ?? or just the 25 1 min speeders ??


to remain on site is what it is but so many have been on a vacation for way less like risklover80 and milehigh18 to name only 2 . fact its still being discussed here shows the site members are not happy with admin verdict but we just have to live with this .