Conquer Club

WWII Pearl Harbor - [Quenched]

Care to peruse completed maps? Take a stroll through the Atlas.

Moderator: Cartographers

Forum rules
Please read the Community Guidelines before posting.

Postby cairnswk on Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:29 pm

edbeard wrote:yes that's much better. You have a lot going on already, which is fine.

I don't think you need to add to it by having different coloured lines and drastically different styles on the lines.

All the attack lines work the same anyway, so have them look the same. I realize you have squares and circles for ship to ship and ship to aircraft respectively, and I think that is fine. Slightly different, but nothing distracting.


Edbeard...i've just posted V21b for the attack lines....dbl red tracer style bullets from the planes->ships, and straight light blue for the ship->ships.
this works for me. gives more definition to the ship defense lines and makes it very clear which are the aircraft attack lines.
What do you think?

Image
Image
* Pearl Harbour * Waterloo * Forbidden City * Jamaica * Pot Mosbi
User avatar
Private cairnswk
 
Posts: 11510
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:32 pm
Location: Australia

Postby edbeard on Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:45 pm

the water paths are fine

But, I really don't like the aircraft attack lines at all. Note sure if it's the colour, the style, or the combination of the two


I still greatly prefer the earlier version with all white
User avatar
Lieutenant edbeard
 
Posts: 2501
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:41 am

Postby cairnswk on Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:49 pm

edbeard wrote:the water paths are fine

But, I really don't like the aircraft attack lines at all. Note sure if it's the colour, the style, or the combination of the two


I still greatly prefer the earlier version with all white

MMmmmm...OK thanks for that - appreciate your reply. :)
Image
* Pearl Harbour * Waterloo * Forbidden City * Jamaica * Pot Mosbi
User avatar
Private cairnswk
 
Posts: 11510
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:32 pm
Location: Australia

Postby cairnswk on Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:55 pm

edbeard wrote:the water paths are fine

But, I really don't like the aircraft attack lines at all. Note sure if it's the colour, the style, or the combination of the two


I still greatly prefer the earlier version with all white


OK....below is a version of round dots like you prefer in yellow....
the challenge i'm having now is that with the round dots, everytime i look at different colours all i can think of is "carnival lights"

Image
Image
* Pearl Harbour * Waterloo * Forbidden City * Jamaica * Pot Mosbi
User avatar
Private cairnswk
 
Posts: 11510
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:32 pm
Location: Australia

Postby edbeard on Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:04 pm

yea I still can't get over the different colours.

I'm totally sold that they should be the same no matter if they are ship to ship or ship to airplane

as for the style, I prefer the dots and squares, but the lines seem to work well too.
User avatar
Lieutenant edbeard
 
Posts: 2501
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:41 am

Postby cairnswk on Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:16 pm

edbeard wrote:yea I still can't get over the different colours.

I'm totally sold that they should be the same no matter if they are ship to ship or ship to airplane

as for the style, I prefer the dots and squares, but the lines seem to work well too.


What about this one in all light blue...solid ship-ship.....tracers planes-ship

Image
Image
* Pearl Harbour * Waterloo * Forbidden City * Jamaica * Pot Mosbi
User avatar
Private cairnswk
 
Posts: 11510
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:32 pm
Location: Australia

Postby edbeard on Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:19 pm

yea it's definitely the style I don't like (though I wasn't fond of the red colour either)


I think the best thing is for you to find 3 or 4 that you like and post em up. And, then just have everyone vote on 'em.
User avatar
Lieutenant edbeard
 
Posts: 2501
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:41 am

Postby hulmey on Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:22 pm

Ok looks good and its less complicated now and easier to see who can attack you and where from.

Can ALL the shaips attack the aeroplanes back?

Also the ships in the dock can they attack each other because their are no lines?
[img]http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/9761/41922610151374166770386.jpg[/mg]
User avatar
Lieutenant hulmey
 
Posts: 3742
Joined: Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:33 am
Location: Las Vegas

Postby cairnswk on Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:26 pm

edbeard wrote:yea it's definitely the style I don't like (though I wasn't fond of the red colour either)


I think the best thing is for you to find 3 or 4 that you like and post em up. And, then just have everyone vote on 'em.

Kewl :)
Image
* Pearl Harbour * Waterloo * Forbidden City * Jamaica * Pot Mosbi
User avatar
Private cairnswk
 
Posts: 11510
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:32 pm
Location: Australia

Postby cairnswk on Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:40 pm

hulmey wrote:Ok looks good and its less complicated now and easier to see who can attack you and where from.
yes i agree hulmey.

Can ALL the shaips attack the aeroplanes back?
yes...these are all two way attack routes from ships to planes....the only ones that i just realised might not be two way are the two Vals that are attacking the PP Hangers and Runway C, although I guess both of these would have had some sort of guns to fire back ineffectively at those two Vals.

Also the ships in the dock can they attack each other because their are no lines?
OK....that is something i hadn't thought of....good point.
I've just added some attack lines to those ships...i don't think it clutters that area too much

What do you think of V22 below?

Image
Image
* Pearl Harbour * Waterloo * Forbidden City * Jamaica * Pot Mosbi
User avatar
Private cairnswk
 
Posts: 11510
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:32 pm
Location: Australia

Postby onbekende on Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:34 am

This one is made of WIN
Emperor of the Benelux
Founder of the Commonwealth of Planets
Founder and CEO of JF
User avatar
Captain onbekende
 
Posts: 1530
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:19 am
Location: Belgium

Postby cairnswk on Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:43 am

onbekende wrote:This one is made of WIN

You like this one Onbekende? :)
Image
* Pearl Harbour * Waterloo * Forbidden City * Jamaica * Pot Mosbi
User avatar
Private cairnswk
 
Posts: 11510
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:32 pm
Location: Australia

Postby onbekende on Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:46 am

Yep, was something I even had in mind
Emperor of the Benelux
Founder of the Commonwealth of Planets
Founder and CEO of JF
User avatar
Captain onbekende
 
Posts: 1530
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:19 am
Location: Belgium

Postby cairnswk on Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:12 am

onbekende wrote:Yep, was something I even had in mind

Great! :) I am writing xml at present...big job this one!
Image
* Pearl Harbour * Waterloo * Forbidden City * Jamaica * Pot Mosbi
User avatar
Private cairnswk
 
Posts: 11510
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:32 pm
Location: Australia

Postby onbekende on Sat Jun 16, 2007 4:57 am

agreed, I can always overlook it if you want
Emperor of the Benelux
Founder of the Commonwealth of Planets
Founder and CEO of JF
User avatar
Captain onbekende
 
Posts: 1530
Joined: Fri Apr 14, 2006 10:19 am
Location: Belgium

Postby Wisse on Sat Jun 16, 2007 4:57 am

cairnswk wrote:
edbeard wrote:the water paths are fine

But, I really don't like the aircraft attack lines at all. Note sure if it's the colour, the style, or the combination of the two


I still greatly prefer the earlier version with all white


OK....below is a version of round dots like you prefer in yellow....
the challenge i'm having now is that with the round dots, everytime i look at different colours all i can think of is "carnival lights"

Image

i like this one the most
but then with the boat routes from before
Image Image
User avatar
Sergeant Wisse
 
Posts: 4448
Joined: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:59 pm
Location: The netherlands, gelderland, epe

Postby gimil on Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:47 am

in eth legends ford Is. to destroyers arnt as clear and crisp as the rest of the legends. Thats all i can see for now.

keep up the good work :wink:
What do you know about map making, bitch?

natty_dread wrote:I was wrong


Top Score:2403
User avatar
Corporal 1st Class gimil
 
Posts: 8599
Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:42 pm
Location: United Kingdom (Scotland)

Postby cairnswk on Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:34 am

gimil wrote:in eth legends ford Is. to destroyers arnt as clear and crisp as the rest of the legends. Thats all i can see for now.

keep up the good work :wink:

Yeh thanks gimil....all those have been treated in exactly the same manner...i would say it has to do with the colour on the background and and the font used.
Image
* Pearl Harbour * Waterloo * Forbidden City * Jamaica * Pot Mosbi
User avatar
Private cairnswk
 
Posts: 11510
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:32 pm
Location: Australia

Postby gimil on Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:00 am

it think its to do with the lack of a black outline in those ones. I noticed teh diffrence between those one and vals, which has a darker outline.
What do you know about map making, bitch?

natty_dread wrote:I was wrong


Top Score:2403
User avatar
Corporal 1st Class gimil
 
Posts: 8599
Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:42 pm
Location: United Kingdom (Scotland)

V23 Updadte

Postby cairnswk on Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:22 pm

gimil wrote:it think its to do with the lack of a black outline in those ones. I noticed teh diffrence between those one and vals, which has a darker outline.


Gimil....I have re-worked the entire bonus list and now they all have the very same emboss.

Also started to tidy up the "destructions"...may not be the correct colour yet, but at least it provides some contrast in that area.

EDIT\\ Might help is I put a mapo in eh?!

Image
Image
* Pearl Harbour * Waterloo * Forbidden City * Jamaica * Pot Mosbi
User avatar
Private cairnswk
 
Posts: 11510
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:32 pm
Location: Australia

XML advise

Postby cairnswk on Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:12 pm

I have a couple of questions please.....

1. Can someone please advise if this is the correct coding for X for Y bonuses that I want to use in this map.

2. does this x for y bonus feature still produce bonuses on top of the Region bonus, once the region is conquered completely?


<!-- Vals -->

<continent>
<name>Vals</name>
<bonus>5</bonus>
<components>
<component>V1</component>
<component>V2</component>
<component>V3</component>
<component>V4</component>
<component>V5</component>
</components>
</continent>

<collection>
<name>Val Aircraft</name>
<components>
<component>V1</component>
<component>V2</component>
<component>V3</component>
<component>V4</component>
<component>V5</component>
</components>
<bonuses>
<bonus quantity="2">3</bonus>
<bonus quantity="4">4</bonus>
</bonuses>
</collection>

<!-- Kates -->

<continent>
<name>Kates</name>
<bonus>6</bonus>
<components>
<component>K1</component>
<component>K2</component>
<component>K3</component>
<component>K4</component>
<component>K5</component>
<component>K6</component>
</components>
</continent>

<collection>
<name>Kate Aircraft</name>
<components>
<component>K1</component>
<component>K2</component>
<component>K3</component>
<component>K4</component>
<component>K5</component>
<component>K6</component>
</components>
<bonuses>
<bonus quantity="2">3</bonus>
<bonus quantity="4">4</bonus>
</bonuses>
</collection>

<!-- Zeroes -->

<continent>
<name>Zeroes</name>
<bonus>7</bonus>
<components>
<component>Z1</component>
<component>Z2</component>
<component>Z3</component>
<component>Z4</component>
<component>Z5</component>
<component>Z6</component>
<component>Z7</component>
</components>
</continent>

<collection>
<name>Zero Aircraft</name>
<components>
<component>Z1</component>
<component>Z2</component>
<component>Z3</component>
<component>Z4</component>
<component>Z5</component>
<component>Z6</component>
<component>Z7</component>
</components>
<bonuses>
<bonus quantity="2">3</bonus>
<bonus quantity="4">4</bonus>
</bonuses>
</collection>
Image
* Pearl Harbour * Waterloo * Forbidden City * Jamaica * Pot Mosbi
User avatar
Private cairnswk
 
Posts: 11510
Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2007 8:32 pm
Location: Australia

Postby peteeson10 on Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:21 pm

thts a realy good idea. would play on it many times.
User avatar
Cook peteeson10
 
Posts: 10
Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:47 pm

Postby AndyDufresne on Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:20 pm

Interested in Pearl Harbour?
Yes
71% [ 77 ]
No
28% [ 31 ]

Total Votes : 108
User avatar
Corporal 1st Class AndyDufresne
 
Posts: 24935
Joined: Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:22 pm
Location: A Banana Palm in Zihuatanejo

Postby hulmey on Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:36 pm

Make the bonus legend more steely and military like. At the moment it looks like your dreaded firework show which i personally dont find fitting to this map....

Also the bottom legend is very bright.....
[img]http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/9761/41922610151374166770386.jpg[/mg]
User avatar
Lieutenant hulmey
 
Posts: 3742
Joined: Fri Nov 03, 2006 7:33 am
Location: Las Vegas

Postby Wisse on Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:10 am

hulmey wrote:Make the bonus legend more steely and military like. At the moment it looks like your dreaded firework show which i personally dont find fitting to this map....

Also the bottom legend is very bright.....

hulm can you edit your sig? its much to big...

and cairns you forgot my post again ;)
Image Image
User avatar
Sergeant Wisse
 
Posts: 4448
Joined: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:59 pm
Location: The netherlands, gelderland, epe

PreviousNext

Return to The Atlas

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users