Mongol Empire Map [Quenched]

[ritz627]

Looks like a great map, I cant wait to play it. It will certainly be one of my new favorites. No complaints from me.

[KEYOGI]

Would you consider bringing back the darker shadows on the smaller map Guiscard? I'm finding it a bit hard to read the territory labels, mainly in Golden Horde.

[Jack0827]

I can't wait to play I think that it is fantastic

[unriggable]

What is that island at the bottom right??

[The1exile]

What is that island at the bottom right??

You mean the one off Fujian?

I think that's Taiwan.

[jasnostj]

Cool map, but names are not very accurate: Moscow too far south, Kashgar too far west.
Besides the central Himalayas seem too be missing. I would like some Tibetan highland.

[RobinJ]

Cool map, but names are not very accurate: Moscow too far south, Kashgar too far west.
Besides the central Himalayas seem too be missing. I would like some Tibetan highland.

I think it may be too late to do anything this drastic - it would set it back months

[Guiscard]

Cool map, but names are not very accurate: Moscow too far south, Kashgar too far west.
Besides the central Himalayas seem too be missing. I would like some Tibetan highland.

I think the curve of the map may be confusing you slightly... But thanks for your comments.

[Guiscard]

OK lets try again...

Wisse - I've gotten rid of the little nub in India BUT the other areas you highlighted cannot be changed. If i make the coastline section lighter it looks wrong compared to the rest of the coastline, and at the moment I don't really believe it looks noticably bolder so I'm not making the change here. The other areas are part of shadows, and lightening the borders spoils the natural flow of the shadow so again I don't want to make the change.

To those who wanted shadows on the smaller map, I have actually added as much shadow as i can without it becoming muddy and unreadable in this update.









CODE IS HERE

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<map>
<title>The Mongol Empire</title>
<smallwidth>600</smallwidth>
<smallheight>314</smallheight>
<largewidth>800</largewidth>
<largeheight>418</largeheight>
<filetype>jpg</filetype>
-
   <continent>
<name>Golden Horde</name>
<bonus>5</bonus>
-
   <components>
<component>Moscow</component>
<component>Crimea</component>
<component>Bolgar</component>
<component>Astrakhan</component>
<component>Uzbeg</component>
<component>White Horde</component>
<component>Yenisei</component>
<component>Alans</component>
</components>
</continent>
-
   <continent>
<name>Ilkhanate</name>
<bonus>5</bonus>
-
   <components>
<component>Lu-Mi Rum</component>
<component>Kara Yusuf</component>
<component>Baghdad</component>
<component>Khurasan</component>
<component>Khorazm</component>
<component>Kirman</component>
<component>Samarkand</component>
<component>Fars</component>
</components>
</continent>
-
   <continent>
<name>Chaghadi Khanate</name>
<bonus>4</bonus>
-
   <components>
<component>Kara Khitai</component>
<component>Uigur</component>
<component>Kashgar</component>
<component>Kabul</component>
<component>Tian Shan</component>
</components>
</continent>
-
   <continent>
<name>Great Khanate</name>
<bonus>3</bonus>
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   <components>
<component>Naimans</component>
<component>Kurkis</component>
<component>Bargu</component>
<component>Karakorum</component>
<component>Onggt</component>
<component>Merkits</component>
</components>
</continent>
-
   <continent>
<name>Yuan Khanate</name>
<bonus>6</bonus>
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   <components>
<component>Himalayas</component>
<component>Idiqut</component>
<component>Inner Tibet</component>
<component>Yugor</component>
<component>Lhasa</component>
<component>Henan</component>
<component>Dali</component>
<component>Fujian</component>
</components>
</continent>
-
   <continent>
<name>Jin</name>
<bonus>2</bonus>
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   <components>
<component>Kitan</component>
<component>Nuzhen</component>
<component>Korea</component>
<component>Keraits</component>
<component>Khanbaliq</component>
</components>
</continent>
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   <country>
<name>Moscow</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>Crimea</border>
<border>Bolgar</border>
<border>Astrakhan</border>
<border>Alans</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>49</smallx>
<smally>79</smally>
<largex>62</largex>
<largey>97</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Crimea</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Moscow</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>77</smallx>
<smally>85</smally>
<largex>105</largex>
<largey>105</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Alans</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Astrakhan</border>
<border>Moscow</border>
<border>Lu-Mi Rum</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>112</smallx>
<smally>125</smally>
<largex>149</largex>
<largey>158</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Bolgar</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Moscow</border>
<border>Astrakhan</border>
<border>White Horde</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>177</smallx>
<smally>49</smally>
<largex>231</largex>
<largey>59</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Astrakhan</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Moscow</border>
<border>Alans</border>
<border>Bolgar</border>
<border>White Horde</border>
<border>Uzbeg</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>146</smallx>
<smally>93</smally>
<largex>193</largex>
<largey>115</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>White Horde</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Bolgar</border>
<border>Astrakhan</border>
<border>Uzbeg</border>
<border>Yenisei</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>218</smallx>
<smally>90</smally>
<largex>295</largex>
<largey>110</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Uzbeg</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>Astrakhan</border>
<border>White Horde</border>
<border>Yenisei</border>
<border>Kara Khitai</border>
<border>Khorazm</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>170</smallx>
<smally>131</smally>
<largex>228</largex>
<largey>163</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>Yenisei</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>White Horde</border>
<border>Uzbeg</border>
<border>Kara Khitai</border>
<border>Naimans</border>
<border>Kurkis</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>227</smallx>
<smally>120</smally>
<largex>307</largex>
<largey>155</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>Lu-Mi Rum</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>Alans</border>
<border>Kara Yusuf</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>97</smallx>
<smally>157</smally>
<largex>134</largex>
<largey>205</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>Kara Yusuf</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>Lu-Mi Rum</border>
<border>Baghdad</border>
<border>Khurasan</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>114</smallx>
<smally>183</smally>
<largex>151</largex>
<largey>238</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Baghdad</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Kara Yusuf</border>
<border>Khurasan</border>
<border>Fars</border>
</borders>
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<smallx>111</smallx>
<smally>206</smally>
<largex>146</largex>
<largey>267</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Fars</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Baghdad</border>
<border>Khurasan</border>
<border>Kirman</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>123</smallx>
<smally>229</smally>
<largex>171</largex>
<largey>301</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>Khurasan</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Kara Yusuf</border>
<border>Baghdad</border>
<border>Fars</border>
<border>Kirman</border>
<border>Samarkand</border>
<border>Khorazm</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>162</smallx>
<smally>208</smally>
<largex>220</largex>
<largey>267</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>Kirman</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>Fars</border>
<border>Khurasan</border>
<border>Samarkand</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>163</smallx>
<smally>247</smally>
<largex>234</largex>
<largey>320</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>Khorazm</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>Uzbeg</border>
<border>Khurasan</border>
<border>Samarkand</border>
<border>Kara Khitai</border>
<border>Uigur</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>192</smallx>
<smally>190</smally>
<largex>220</largex>
<largey>212</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>Samarkand</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>Khorazm</border>
<border>Khurasan</border>
<border>Kirman</border>
<border>Lhasa</border>
<border>Uigur</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>203</smallx>
<smally>224</smally>
<largex>276</largex>
<largey>291</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>Kara Khitai</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>Uzbeg</border>
<border>Yenisei</border>
<border>Naimans</border>
<border>Tian Shan</border>
<border>Kashgar</border>
<border>Uigur</border>
<border>Khorazm</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>270</smallx>
<smally>149</smally>
<largex>370</largex>
<largey>192</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>Uigur</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>Kara Khitai</border>
<border>Kashgar</border>
<border>Kabul</border>
<border>Samarkand</border>
<border>Khorazm</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>233</smallx>
<smally>192</smally>
<largex>309</largex>
<largey>245</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>Kashgar</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>Kara Khitai</border>
<border>Tian Shan</border>
<border>Kabul</border>
<border>Uigur</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>259</smallx>
<smally>177</smally>
<largex>352</largex>
<largey>230</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>Kabul</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Uigur</border>
<border>Kashgar</border>
<border>Tian Shan</border>
<border>Himalayas</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>265</smallx>
<smally>228</smally>
<largex>355</largex>
<largey>297</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>Tian Shan</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>Kara Khitai</border>
<border>Naimans</border>
<border>Kashgar</border>
<border>Kabul</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>299</smallx>
<smally>165</smally>
<largex>401</largex>
<largey>213</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>Naimans</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Yenisei</border>
<border>Kurkis</border>
<border>Tian Shan</border>
<border>Kara Khitai</border>
<border>Yugor</border>
<border>Karakorum</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>327</smallx>
<smally>153</smally>
<largex>440</largex>
<largey>197</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Kurkis</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>Yenisei</border>
<border>Bargu</border>
<border>Karakorum</border>
<border>Naimans</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>329</smallx>
<smally>90</smally>
<largex>441</largex>
<largey>116</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Bargu</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>Merkits</border>
<border>Karakorum</border>
<border>Kurkis</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>372</smallx>
<smally>93</smally>
<largex>499</largex>
<largey>114</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Karakorum</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>Naimans</border>
<border>Kurkis</border>
<border>Bargu</border>
<border>Onggt</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>374</smallx>
<smally>136</smally>
<largex>502</largex>
<largey>178</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Onggt</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Karakorum</border>
<border>Henan</border>
<border>Khanbaliq</border>
<border>Keraits</border>
</borders>
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<smally>137</smally>
<largex>564</largex>
<largey>178</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Merkits</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Bargu</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>412</smallx>
<smally>79</smally>
<largex>554</largex>
<largey>99</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Kitan</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>Nuzhen</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
<smallx>518</smallx>
<smally>81</smally>
<largex>685</largex>
<largey>96</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Nuzhen</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Korea</border>
<border>Khanbaliq</border>
<border>Keraits</border>
<border>Kitan</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
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<smally>102</smally>
<largex>657</largex>
<largey>134</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Keraits</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Nuzhen</border>
<border>Khanbaliq</border>
<border>Onggt</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
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<smally>104</smally>
<largex>603</largex>
<largey>135</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Khanbaliq</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Nuzhen</border>
<border>Keraits</border>
<border>Onggt</border>
<border>Henan</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
<smallx>458</smallx>
<smally>152</smally>
<largex>612</largex>
<largey>194</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Korea</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Nuzhen</border>
</borders>
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<smally>152</smally>
<largex>699</largex>
<largey>190</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Henan</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Khanbaliq</border>
<border>Onggt</border>
<border>Fujian</border>
<border>Dali</border>
<border>Yugor</border>
</borders>
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<largey>248</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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<name>Fujian</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Henan</border>
<border>Dali</border>
</borders>
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<smally>209</smally>
<largex>649</largex>
<largey>273</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Dali</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Henan</border>
<border>Fujian</border>
<border>Yugor</border>
<border>Lhasa</border>
</borders>
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<smally>241</smally>
<largex>594</largex>
<largey>320</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Yugor</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Henan</border>
<border>Dali</border>
<border>Lhasa</border>
<border>Inner Tibet</border>
<border>Idiqut</border>
<border>Naimans</border>
</borders>
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<smally>219</smally>
<largex>544</largex>
<largey>279</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Lhasa</name>
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   <borders>
<border>Yugor</border>
<border>Dali</border>
<border>Inner Tibet</border>
<border>Samarkand</border>
</borders>
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<smally>257</smally>
<largex>522</largex>
<largey>336</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
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   <country>
<name>Inner Tibet</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>Yugor</border>
<border>Lhasa</border>
<border>Himalayas</border>
<border>Idiqut</border>
</borders>
-
   <coordinates>
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<smally>209</smally>
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<largey>303</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>Idiqut</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>Yugor</border>
<border>Inner Tibet</border>
<border>Himalayas</border>
</borders>
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   <coordinates>
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<smally>230</smally>
<largex>417</largex>
<largey>299</largey>
</coordinates>
</country>
-
   <country>
<name>Himalayas</name>
-
   <borders>
<border>Idiqut</border>
<border>Inner Tibet</border>
<border>Kabul</border>
</borders>
-
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<largex>441</largex>
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</coordinates>
</country>
</map>

[RobinJ]

Please just quench this andy and Keyogi. Nothing new is coming up - only old arguments being revived. I think Guiscard has done everything to make this map visually pleasing and the playability looks good too.

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[Wisse]

OK lets try again...

Wisse - I've gotten rid of the little nub in India BUT the other areas you highlighted cannot be changed. If i make the coastline section lighter it looks wrong compared to the rest of the coastline, and at the moment I don't really believe it looks noticably bolder so I'm not making the change here. The other areas are part of shadows, and lightening the borders spoils the natural flow of the shadow so again I don't want to make the change.

To those who wanted shadows on the smaller map, I have actually added as much shadow as i can without it becoming muddy and unreadable in this update.

ok i don't mind the dark borders but humley did so i searched for them
the thicker borders looks good now

[unriggable]

What is that island at the bottom right??

You mean the one off Fujian?

I think that's Taiwan.

More bottom right.

[The1exile]

Easy.

http://www.conquerclub.com/maps/Philippines.L.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luzon

[Guiscard]

Easy.

http://www.conquerclub.com/maps/Philippines.L.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luzon

Indeed. The 'curve' of the map makes it seem larger than it may be on 'flat' maps.

[unriggable]

Easy.

http://www.conquerclub.com/maps/Philippines.L.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luzon

Indeed. The 'curve' of the map makes it seem larger than it may be on 'flat' maps.

Touche...

[The1exile]

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[AndyDufresne]

I'm just curious, was there some discussion about Inner Tibet, and the difference between the large and the small map? Any reason behind the difference?


--Andy

[Guiscard]

I'm just curious, was there some discussion about Inner Tibet, and the difference between the large and the small map? Any reason behind the difference?


--Andy

Sure. If it was in the same place in the smaller image the army circle touches the neighbouring circles, whereas if it is placed in the same position (above not left) on the large map it touches the borders there. I thought it would be better to give it more space where possible, on the large map, but move it on the small so it would only be touching borders not circles. Anyhow, no-one should be looking at both maps at once

[hulmey]

lets rock this map........................

[AndyDufresne]

Would you be so kind as to provide me with the text links of the large, small, and of the XML?


--Andy

[Guiscard]

Would you be so kind as to provide me with the text links of the large, small, and of the XML?


--Andy

Of course you lazy monkey

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j234/ ... _small.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j234/ ... _large.jpg

[Wisse]

Would you be so kind as to provide me with the text links of the large, small, and of the XML?


--Andy

Of course you lazy monkey

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j234/ ... _small.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j234/ ... _large.jpg

you forgot the xml

[Guiscard]

Would you be so kind as to provide me with the text links of the large, small, and of the XML?


--Andy

Of course you lazy monkey

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j234/ ... _small.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j234/ ... _large.jpg

you forgot the xml

For Gods sake... Not to be patronising but all three of those things could be gleaned from the original post in a matter of seconds...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/lqkhjw

[AndyDufresne]

Quenching

The Final Forge period has concluded for the Mongol Empire Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready for live play (barring any Lack vetoes).

Conquer Club, enjoy!


–Andy

[DiM]

congrats guiscard
well done mate.


PS: andy change the title to [quenched]