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Re: benga - Game ruining/tourney abuse [ka]

Postby eddie2 on Thu May 11, 2017 1:57 pm

Donelladan wrote:I didn't read the whole thread but what you describe here is exactly why it was noted imo.
Noted means there is nothing to see, but it will be keep as reference if it happens again. So, as you said, since it's not a regular occurring situation it's fine, but if it become a regular occurring situation, then there is a problem, thus this is noted, in case it become regular :)

Noted is good :)


noted isn't good donelladen. it was noted because benga said he would do it. how many times have we said things in game chat sounding vindictive when it is actually the better play.

if king Achilles is going to give a noted on the game chat of the accused from another game then this sets a whole new precident in future. he might of taken lord out of the round of games but not the tourney. lord stopped benga from a win giving himself a chance to go clear 2nd benga done the same in return. thus keeping himself in the tourney.

a perfect example was iamcaffines case via myself back during the Olympics. I said everywhere I was gonna suicide him lol and I did but it was in my favour, not taking myself out of it.
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Re: benga - Game ruining/tourney abuse [ka]

Postby Donelladan on Thu May 11, 2017 2:18 pm

As I said, I didn't read the thread, I was only replying to willedtowin. According to what he said, noted looks correct :)
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Re: benga - Game ruining/tourney abuse [ka]

Postby iAmCaffeine on Thu May 11, 2017 3:30 pm

eddie2 wrote:a perfect example was iamcaffines case via myself back during the Olympics. I said everywhere I was gonna suicide him lol and I did but it was in my favour, not taking myself out of it.

I'd forgotten about that. Fun times.
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Re: benga - Game ruining/tourney abuse [ka]

Postby eddie2 on Thu May 11, 2017 8:14 pm

iAmCaffeine wrote:
eddie2 wrote:a perfect example was iamcaffines case via myself back during the Olympics. I said everywhere I was gonna suicide him lol and I did but it was in my favour, not taking myself out of it.

I'd forgotten about that. Fun times.


Lol yeah it was jistbthink this new noted would het me banned for it some nasty poop loll
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Re: benga - Game ruining/tourney abuse [ka]

Postby willedtowin1 on Fri May 12, 2017 7:01 am

So..... attacking someone in the Lead is Suicide.....and then gets noted as "Potential" Abuse =/
PRECEDENT SETTING



"Quote from Lord Bremen" initial statement
"He then proceeded to suicide in round 20 (final round) of Game 17317102:
2017-05-04 08:25:15 - benga assaulted Garage from Access and conquered it from Lord_Bremen

See screenshots before (showing that I am in the lead) and after."

Note should be expunged
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Re: benga - Game ruining/tourney abuse [ka]

Postby willedtowin1 on Fri May 12, 2017 7:18 am

competitor play
noun comĀ·petĀ·iĀ·tor \kəm-Ėˆpe-tə-tər\
Definition of competitor for English Language Learners

: someone who is trying to win or do better than all others especially in business or sports : someone who is competing
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Re: benga - Game ruining/tourney abuse [ka]

Postby iAmCaffeine on Fri May 12, 2017 7:20 am

How is a precedent being set when there is no kind of punishment being issued? It's been noted. That just means if a similar instance occurs again in the future then this case may be used as a reference. How is that setting a precedent? Evidently benga didn't break any rules, but that doesn't mean what he did wasn't irrational.

willedtowin1 wrote:and then gets noted as Abuse =/

Who said it's noted as abuse? Nobody, only you.

People need to learn what noted actually means before commenting.

Noted literally means "okay we believe you didn't do anything wrong, but your actions aren't 100% clean so we'll keep this occurrence on file just in case you should do something similar in the future". It doesn't mean "you broke the rules but we're only making a note of it". It doesn't mean "we'll let you off this time but we're making a note so if you do it again you'll be punished".
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Re: benga - Game ruining/tourney abuse [ka]

Postby willedtowin1 on Fri May 12, 2017 7:34 am

Perception

And I added to my post

"Potential" Abuse...my bad


This place is going to become to ANAL if
petty ante crap like this sets a precedent.
Benga's statement is simply of a competitive nature.
And there is to much grey area to the matter as it is

Im done here
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Re: benga - Game ruining/tourney abuse [ka]

Postby iAmCaffeine on Fri May 12, 2017 7:40 am

What if someone annoys benga in a non-tournament game and as a reaction he suicides into them? As an isolated situation nothing might happen, but with a note of similar behaviour in the past he would get a warning as he would deserve. I'm not saying that will happen, I'm not saying he's done anything wrong here, and nor are the moderators who ruled on the case. It's a note. Nothing more.
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Re: benga - Game ruining/tourney abuse [ka]

Postby benga on Fri May 12, 2017 8:12 am

iAmCaffeine wrote:What if someone annoys benga in a non-tournament game and as a reaction he suicides into them?


What does this mean? That someone can go and attack me and ruin my game and keep doing so and I should just sit back and let him bend me over and stick it in?

I never attack first, but if someone tries to bully me out of game, I attack back and yes I do full force with no mercy.
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Re: benga - Game ruining/tourney abuse [ka]

Postby iAmCaffeine on Fri May 12, 2017 8:14 am

benga wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:What if someone annoys benga in a non-tournament game and as a reaction he suicides into them?


What does this mean? That someone can go and attack me and ruin my game and keep doing so and I should just sit back and let him bend me over and stick it in?

I never attack first, but if someone tries to bully me out of game, I attack back and yes I do full force with no mercy.

What? Where the f*ck did I say that? I'm not explaining something when I've already wasted my time doing so.
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Re: benga - Game ruining/tourney abuse [ka]

Postby eddie2 on Sun May 14, 2017 7:49 pm

Simpleton like with clans tourneys are under a different section. There is routine for complaints. This should of wentbto the head of the section first then if no resolve posted here , previous precident have not been followed so opens the door. Get possed of in live chat "catchersmitt recent case" go to head result of case and closed.
Get pissed off in a tourney noted so king a not showing any respect to head of that department like all other previous caaes before.
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Re: benga - Game ruining/tourney abuse [ka]

Postby Lord_Bremen on Mon May 15, 2017 12:06 am

eddie2 wrote:Simpleton like with clans tourneys are under a different section. There is routine for complaints. This should of wentbto the head of the section first then if no resolve posted here , previous precident have not been followed so opens the door. Get possed of in live chat "catchersmitt recent case" go to head result of case and closed.
Get pissed off in a tourney noted so king a not showing any respect to head of that department like all other previous caaes before.


Normal game rules still apply in tourneys, not sure why you would think otherwise.

Throwing games is not acceptable. If it continues, he will face discipline. While benga seems unable to grasp this basic concept, hopefully the fear of punishment will at least deter future suicides.

I still maintain that it's a terrible idea to have a "tournament director" who shows an utter lack of remorse for blatant rule violations. Even after the judgment he insists that he has done nothing wrong and will continue to violate the rules. I understand that removing him is not an available sanction here, but if I was the tourney director I would seriously consider whether such an unstable individual deserves a position of authority.
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