Closed fred1999 [ka]

[latitudeis]

Accused:

fred1999

The accused are suspected of:

Other: Intentionally missing turns to accumulate large amounts of deferred troops. Careful to never miss the 3-in-a-row that would result in being kicked as deadbeat. When asked about it, brags about not being kicked.

Game number(s):

16975771

Comments:

See his other active games for further proof: 16791844, is but one example. In a 4-player, 86-round game he has (strategically?) missed 16 turns. The other 3 players have missed a total of 5, and those were 1 player. Game: 16999590 is new (3 rounds at time of report) but already missed a turn. These are just the active games! We all miss a turn from time to time but this is calculated, and worse, arrogant. Thanks for reviewing!

[Kaskavel]

First of all, you do understand that deferred troops are nothing more than the troops he did not deploy becuase he missed his turns? (or fewer if bonuses have been broken)

[Extreme Ways]

Game 16975771

[betiko]

First of all, you do understand that deferred troops are nothing more than the troops he did not deploy becuase he missed his turns? (or fewer if bonuses have been broken)

yes but it missleads people who didn't see he's missed turns and will have defered troops... it makes you look weaker than you actually are, and it's a pain in the ass to make games wait for 2 full days for a single player

[Donelladan]

Missing turns isn't forbidden, especially since missing turn can sometimes not be avoided.
OP said accused bragged about not being kicked in the game chat, this isn't correct, here is the game chat ( just for people too lazy to click in the game link) :

2016-11-08 00:26:37 - latitudeis: hi all. GL
2016-11-18 18:30:41 - latitudeis: c'mon blue
2016-11-18 18:30:49 - latitudeis: you missing turns on purpose?
2016-11-19 01:11:41 - fred1999: no I just have a life.
2016-11-21 16:36:00 - latitudeis: green...his deferred troops are killing us...
2016-11-22 03:21:41 - fred1999: just think - you could get lucky and watch me get kicked out!?
2016-11-22 03:22:36 - fred1999: although why you two keep attacking each other is beyond me.....

Unless OP can prove it is intentionnal, there is nothing to see here.

Note : fred missed 5 turns over 19, but he always had more bonus than any other players on board, so shame on them for not breaking any of his bonus while he missed. He missed two turns and was able to keep a +20.

@latitudeis, next time he miss a turn, just focus on his bonus, then the deferred troops will be reduced as well as the troops of his turn. Really good for you.

[latitudeis]

@Donelladan - cmon, 'shame on them for not breaking' his deferred bonus? this is a fog trench game how is somebody going to be able to focus on his bonus?

my point was look at his other games too, he's doing it on purpose. He's found a loophole and is exploiting it. we have ALL missed turns but his rate of misses is ridiculous.

rules should be changed to 2 consecutive misses for deadbeat kicking!!!

[owenshooter]

missing turns is not against the rules... this is a CASUAL gaming site. sounds like people in the game were not smart enough to attack the person missing turns (as was routinely done back in the good ol' CC days)... you are looking for the site to punish someone else for your poor play in a game. he has not broken a rule. nothing to see here. the black jesus deems this as a waste of CC's time... foe and move on, but stop accusing him of breaking some sort of unwritten rule, which has never existed. the black jesus has spoken...-Bj

[Extreme Ways]

@Donelladan - cmon, 'shame on them for not breaking' his deferred bonus? this is a fog trench game how is somebody going to be able to focus on his bonus?

my point was look at his other games too, he's doing it on purpose. He's found a loophole and is exploiting it. we have ALL missed turns but his rate of misses is ridiculous.

rules should be changed to 2 consecutive misses for deadbeat kicking!!!

Are you implying he would be winning even harder without missing turns?

[owenshooter]

2016-11-08 00:26:37 - latitudeis: hi all. GL
2016-11-18 18:30:41 - latitudeis: c'mon blue
2016-11-18 18:30:49 - latitudeis: you missing turns on purpose?
2016-11-19 01:11:41 - fred1999: no I just have a life.
2016-11-21 16:36:00 - latitudeis: green...his deferred troops are killing us...
2016-11-22 03:21:41 - fred1999: just think - you could get lucky and watch me get kicked out!?
2016-11-22 03:22:36 - fred1999: although why you two keep attacking each other is beyond me.....

that says it all... the black jesus has deemed this as frivolous...-Bj

[latitudeis]

helpful stuff here CC community. :s

[owenshooter]

helpful stuff here CC community. :s

sarcasm noted. however, you simply seem like a whiner/complainer who is losing and is perturbed at how you are losing. he has not broken any rules. and being the upstanding person you are, i noticed you had not notified him of your accusation, so i posted this thread within your game, so he has an opportunity to address your ridiculous accusation. the black jesus is saddened by his child's actions. you are better than this. the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

[king achilles]

We can speculate as much as we want but unless there is a game he played at the time he was missing his turns in your game, the accusation is going to be difficult to prove.

[latitudeis]

yes, i understood it would be difficult to prove. HIs actions, history, and chat lead me to believe he does it intentionally. I don't care enough to look at all his games to see if he's missing some turns in one game while playing in others. I figured this forum was the place to file a report. I didn't realize I'd be the one on trial here, lol.

Owenshooter - wow. Just wow. Coming into the game chat and calling me a whiner? What was that class you were talking about? I called him out while I was winning. I looked at other games of his and it seems like his M.O., thus the report.

I realize it isn't a rule per se, but if it can be abused (which seems obvious) then perhaps it should be changed. 2 misses and deadbeat kick.

[owenshooter]

I realize it isn't a rule per se, but if it can be abused (which seems obvious) then perhaps it should be changed. 2 misses and deadbeat kick.

then go to suggestions and attempt to get the rule changed. there are multiple threads dealing with that very issue. it is a long standing rule, he didn't violate a rule, and this is a casual gaming site. perhaps, next time you whine about a rule and accuse someone of cheating, you should notify the accused. good luck in the SUGGESTIONS forum with this rule change you are seeking. the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

p.s.-*cough* suck it up, cupcake...

[latitudeis]

ha ha ha! ok, Mr Classy 'black jesus'...tell me, when does this so-called 'class' you speak of kick in for a user? Is it at post 12? Post 1200? Maybe 12000?

Unlike you, most non-admin folks don't spend their entire lives in a - what did you repeatedly call it?? oh ya - 'casual gaming' site forum trolling people who were simply following the rules and trying to make things better. Whining? Hardly! Guilty of not reading every single forum post imaginable, like you, and thus not knowing this was a common suggestion topic? Guilty as charged. Here's the kicker, before you grind your teeth working on your inevitable, yawn-erific, entitlement-laden troll reply -- I could give two $h!ts.

a wise man once said: "troll harder weaklings"

Come to think of it, for you, class may kick in around post # 120,000, so talk to me next month when you're there. until then, keep on trolling, bj.

[owenshooter]

yes, you made that point very well... again, go to suggestions to seek the rule change you are suggesting... until then, all they are going to tell you is "foe and move on" and possibly, learn how to play the damn game...-Bj

[Donelladan]

@Donelladan - cmon, 'shame on them for not breaking' his deferred bonus? this is a fog trench game how is somebody going to be able to focus on his bonus?

my point was look at his other games too, he's doing it on purpose. He's found a loophole and is exploiting it. we have ALL missed turns but his rate of misses is ridiculous.

rules should be changed to 2 consecutive misses for deadbeat kicking!!!

Sorry, I didn't notice it was trench, obviously this explain why you couldn't break his bonus.

Concerning the rule change to 2 consecutive miss = kicking, people proposed this before in the suggestion forum. So far this hasn't been accepted. I do think 3 turns missed = kick is enough personally. But this isn't the place for this debate.

Also, please, ignore owenshooter, he is trolling you. He can be very annoying, and he is usually making such kind of disrespectful comments to people posting in C&A.
But, fact is, fred1999 didn't break any rule, though I totally understand it's annoying that someone miss 5 turns in a game. That would piss me off too.
You can foe him at the end of this game so you never have to play with him again, but that's the only thing you can do.

[owenshooter]

Also, owenshooter is 100% correct. He has never been wrong in C&A. But, fact is, fred1999 didn't break any rule (as the black jesus clearly pointed out to you), though I totally understand it's annoying that someone miss 5 turns in a game. That would piss me off too. You can foe him at the end of this game so you never have to play with him again (again, as the black jesus stated), but that's the only thing you can do (as owen said).

Glad to see you agreed with me... the black jesus is never wrong...-BJ

p.s.-sorry about your little butt..

[BoganGod]

ha ha ha! ok, Mr Classy 'black jesus'...tell me, when does this so-called 'class' you speak of kick in for a user? Is it at post 12? Post 1200? Maybe 12000?

Unlike you, most non-admin folks don't spend their entire lives in a - what did you repeatedly call it?? oh ya - 'casual gaming' site forum trolling people who were simply following the rules and trying to make things better. Whining? Hardly! Guilty of not reading every single forum post imaginable, like you, and thus not knowing this was a common suggestion topic? Guilty as charged. Here's the kicker, before you grind your teeth working on your inevitable, yawn-erific, entitlement-laden troll reply -- I could give two $h!ts.

a wise man once said: "troll harder weaklings"

Come to think of it, for you, class may kick in around post # 120,000, so talk to me next month when you're there. until then, keep on trolling, bj.

Owen trolls the most, those he loves the most. So feel flattered sir. enjoy your time on CC, and remember that Jesus wouldn't have made a good electrician. He was colour blind

[king achilles]

I'm going to close this for lack of evidence. Feel free to put him on your Foe list and rate him accordingly.

[owenshooter]

I'm going to close this for lack of evidence. Feel free to put him on your Foe list and rate him accordingly. the black jesus is %100 percent correct

the streak is alive... you may not like my methods, but like Columbo, i am always right...-Jésus noir

[sniffie]

I'm going to close this for lack of evidence. Feel free to put him on your Foe list and rate him accordingly. the black jesus is %100 percent correct

the streak is alive... you may not like my methods, but like Columbo, i am always right...-Jésus noir

Disagree....