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aad0906 secret diplomacy [ka]

Postby aad0906 on Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:31 pm

Accused: aad0906

The accused is suspected of: Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):
Game 16846397
Game 16846397
Game 16846398
Game 16846399
Game 16846400
Game 16846401
Game 16846402
Game 16846403


Comments: I am in 8 Brazil games as part of the CC Olympics. My opponents are Osman76, KKlemen and josko.ri. josko.ri is of course as we all know a formidable player and highly favorite to win. Osman76 is also a very good player and in the same clan as I am (Fallen). I've been a bit busy lately at work plus have family visiting from overseas so I have been rushing my turns a bit. I remember in a few games josko.ri was clearly the strongest and had bonuses. In a few games I moved out of his way to save my troops, in other games I broke some of his bonuses or trimmed stacks when it appeared he was about to eliminate an opponent. Apparently I attacked him dis-proportionally more than anyone else and I have pissed him off, and now he is accusing me of cheating. In fact he is accusing me of helping Osman76, my clanmate, to win. he has posted the following on the wall of KKLemen:

Be careful about out 8 Brazil games because aad0906 is obviously helping to osman76 to win. They are from the same clan, and I noticed aad0906 is overly attacking me and you but not osman76. To give you exact data which you can easily check, he attacked my or your regions 53 times until round 7 but attacked osman's region only 8 times. Please note suspicious moves of aad0906 towards you (and I will note suspicious moves towards me) so that we can report them afterwards if they really show to have secret diplomacy in these games in following turns.

While I admit that I have been attacking josko.ri more than anyone else I belive that it was sound strategy because if is without a doubt the most dangerous opponent. Without spending too much time reviewing every game I also believe I only attacked him when he was very strong or dominating. In escalating games I usually geta cheap card until it's time to sweep the board, but if someone bonusmonkies and gets too dominant I do attack, unless of course there are 2 dominant players, then attacking one would give the victory to another.

Bottom line, I did not conduct secret diplomacy with Osman76, we did not communicate about this game outside of game chat. I did attack josko.ri more than anyone else but I believe each attack was justifiable. However josko.ri is of course a highly respected player with an impeccable record so he must be onto something. Therefore I am happy for the higher powers to review these games and if I clearly did anything to throw the game I will accept any punishment deemed fit.
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Re: aad0906 secret diplomacy

Postby TimWoodbury on Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:06 pm

so your reporting yourself for sd instead of letting josko do it if he really bealive you guys are doing sd?
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Re: aad0906 secret diplomacy

Postby IcePack on Thu Sep 15, 2016 12:15 pm

TimWoodbury wrote:so your reporting yourself for sd instead of letting josko do it if he really bealive you guys are doing sd?


I assume he's posting here to show Josko he doesn't have anything to hide and not performing SD. Since he's been threatened by a C&A report and told his actions are being tracked etc.

My only comment to add would possibly be to note that Josko should not be discussing this and giving warnings and heads up to other players asking them to track actions on players walls - it should be made in game chat so that he himself is not conducting SD.
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Re: aad0906 secret diplomacy

Postby Keefie on Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:19 pm

IcePack wrote:
TimWoodbury wrote:so your reporting yourself for sd instead of letting josko do it if he really bealive you guys are doing sd?


My only comment to add would possibly be to note that Josko should not be discussing this and giving warnings and heads up to other players asking them to track actions on players walls - it should be made in game chat so that he himself is not conducting SD.


My thoughts exactly. Putting a thought into another players head that there's a conspiracy going on, could influence the game. This is just as much SD as anything else.
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Re: aad0906 secret diplomacy

Postby GoranZ on Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:37 pm

aad0906 wrote:josko.ri has posted the following on the wall of KKLemen:

Be careful about out 8 Brazil games because aad0906 is obviously helping to osman76 to win. They are from the same clan, and I noticed aad0906 is overly attacking me and you but not osman76. To give you exact data which you can easily check, he attacked my or your regions 53 times until round 7 but attacked osman's region only 8 times. Please note suspicious moves of aad0906 towards you (and I will note suspicious moves towards me) so that we can report them afterwards if they really show to have secret diplomacy in these games in following turns.

josko.ri is from Rijeka, Croatia, 30 km from Slovenia's border. KKlemen is from Slovenia. Are their attacks suspicious because of this fact?
aad0906,josko.ri, both my accusation and josko's look like a witch-hunt, stop wasting everyone's time, including your own.

I guess our current S&M-FALL war has huge effect in this situation.
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Re: aad0906 secret diplomacy

Postby IcePack on Thu Sep 15, 2016 1:49 pm

I doubt it's the war, it's gone very smoothly. The prizes for individual in Olympics probably more what's the concern cuz osman is competing w Josko @ the top
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Re: aad0906 secret diplomacy

Postby GoranZ on Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:12 pm

IcePack wrote:I doubt it's the war, it's gone very smoothly. The prizes for individual in Olympics probably more what's the concern cuz osman is competing w Josko @ the top

I doubt... josko(44 points) = 2.75 x osman(16 points)
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Re: aad0906 secret diplomacy

Postby king achilles on Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:59 pm

Playing mind games while in a tournament is not really surprising coming from very competitive players but what is bothersome is when one of the players posts on an opponent's wall in an attempt to influence how to proceed with the game.

Update: The competitiveness of some players sometimes get the better of them that they may say or do impulsive decisions like posting comments on an enemy's wall regarding the game. Josko.ri has been warned/reminded to use the game chat next time around.
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Re: aad0906 secret diplomacy [ka]

Postby king achilles on Mon Sep 19, 2016 10:52 pm

I can't find enough solid evidence that there is a secret diplomacy going on from these games.
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