Cleared edgarhons, ktzero, hillj52 (MULTIS / SECRET DIPLOMACY) [tg]

[Doctor Spin]

Accused:

edgarhons
ktzero
hillj52

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis / Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):

Game 16844758
Game 16829358
Game 16845300
Game 16845295
Game 16844784
Game 16853787

Comments: I won't go on too much. My suspicion started when I found myself in a game with the 3 accused. The game is ongoing as I write, but I am obviously being attacked by all 3, even when it doesn't make sense. I initially thought it was ktzero and hillj52 working together, then I suspected edgarhons was in on it too. A quick game search showed that, even though the two initial suspects are new recruits, they have played 5 out of their 6 games together - and edgarhons has also played in 5 of those 6 games. edgarhons looks to be the original account, and the other two are either Multis of edgarhons or close friends (Secret Diplomacy), or perhaps a combination of the two.

Happy hunting mods!

[Doctor Spin]

I just told the 3 of them in game chat that I had reported them. The only response so far has been from hillj52, who said the following:

"2016-09-14 14:38:51 - hillj52: multi, "group", stop trying to make excuses, i've never played with these ppl in my life"

I reminded him that ALL four of his games to date have been played with ktzero, and 3 of his 4 games have included edgarhons.

Honestly, you couldn't make it up!!! Hahaha

[iAmCaffeine]

I was gonna say just friends, but his obvious lie makes it weird.

[Doctor Spin]

I know. I'm sure there are friends among the wider group, though I do suspect edgarhons has at least one Multi a/c. Either way, it's secret diplomacy at play if not Multis I reckon.

...and yes, I know all about that, before anyone mentions it! ;-)

[TimWoodbury]

I know. Either way, it's secret diplomacy at play

just because friends attack you dont mean its secreat diplo... sometimes when a group of friends play and a random person joins they all decide on own free will without talking they wanna take out the "outsider" ive not looked at the games as im to lazy to but just throwing out fiends killig a non friend dont make it secreat diplo

[Doctor Spin]

I know. Either way, it's secret diplomacy at play

just because friends attack you dont mean its secreat diplo... sometimes when a group of friends play and a random person joins they all decide on own free will without talking they wanna take out the "outsider" ive not looked at the games as im to lazy to but just throwing out fiends killig a non friend dont make it secreat diplo

Totally get what you're saying. I'm used to that. But I felt there was something more to this. Worth checking - that's what the Multi Hunters are for, after all. If I'm wrong, so be it.

[Doctor Spin]

I will add, though, that edgarhons (ranked and experienced) is playing in all of these guys' games. That's a bit odd for a start. If not multi, is he Farming?

[edgarhons]

Can you please chill out Spin? I'm in a class where we have a lot of free time and managed to get 6 new people to sign up last week, ktzero and hillj52 being two of them. I can get more too if the word keeps spreading. You're worrying too much about the rules of Conquer Club and forgetting about the rules of real life: When people new to this game have only 4 free games allotted to them, they don't want their games filling up with strangers. You think I'm going to tell these guys, "Hey I know you don't want to play with this guy, but please adhere to the letter to the rules of Conquer Club for his sake and extend this game for ages instead of opening up a spot for a game you'd prefer more"? You're not the center of the universe buddy. Are they ganging up on you? Yes. Am I following along? Yes. Is the world going to end because of it? No. We're talking about ONE loss for you in over 14,000 games and you're getting this bothered? You're intentionally delaying this game and making new players think CC is full of whining babies instead of cool people just looking for fun. So for the love of god, CHILL OUT AND TAKE YOUR TURN.

[Doctor Spin]

edgarhons, part of what you say may be true, but let's give the MODS a chance to review. Mine was a legitimate report and I had very good reasons to be suspicious. I wasn't whining, and I am not angry or non-chilled. It seems that YOU are getting more angry. I will say this again - if you want to play speed games or want to set up private games, PAY for the privilege like I do. My subscription is paying for people like you (and your "mates") to enjoy this fantastic game online. A lot of people have put a lot of time and hard work into creating this site. I have done nothing wrong, whereas YOU and your "mates" have, at the very least, ruined the spirit of what should have been a fair game on a level playing field.

Early on in the game, I asked you directly (in game chat) whether you felt my suspicions about ktzero and hillj52 being possible Multis were fair. You chose not to respond. Had you come clean then about your claim that you're all school friends, I might have been more open to letting it go as a bad job. Looking into ktzero's game chat on other games, however, he has spent a great deal of time explaining in a great deal of detail to other low-rank players how the game operates. This seems very strange for someone who has played just a small handful of games, don't you think? Then, in our game chat, hillj52 claimed that he had never played a game with you and ktzero. That was a complete lie, as ALL of his 4 games had been played with ktzero - and 3 of those games included you.

In short, I felt there was sufficient evidence to get you all checked out by the MODS. I sincerely hope that my suspicions are unfounded, but it nevertheless might work as a lesson to you all to play fairly when a "stranger" joins your games.

All the best.

[TeeGee]

A friendly word of advice. Even though you are all in the same room, if you decide to eliminate the guy who isn't in the room with you. Make sure you state it in the chat.. As a question to ask for an alliance and an acceptance. Because from the outside I can see exactly where the OP is coming from, He does not have the tools I have to see that you are in fact logging in from a school, or internet cafe or other venue with multiple, but different connections.
As your friends are new, i am giving them the benefit of doubt. And as I can see in all your other games with each other, that you do indeed attack each other and in at least one game edgarhons is doing the admirable thing and coaching these guys on how to play.

I would like to thank you all for your continued support of Conquer Club and efforts to make it grow.

CLEARED