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Hacking vs. Cracking / this needs to end

Postby owenshooter on Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:23 pm

many forum goers are quite aware of my disdain for the commonplace accusation of, "perhaps someone hacked his account and is trying to ruin his score" or "(insert player name here) would NEVER do that, his/her account must have been hacked!!!" E-NOUGH!!! accounts are not being HACKED ON CC!!! as evidenced in a recent C&A thread, this false belief just seems to be the norm on this site. so, i have taken it upon myself to educate the masses with this post. below is the original post/accusation of the hacking of a users account to attack his own team members in doubles games, and my response. i hope you all learn something:

Subject: Rocko734 [ka]
wyld chyld wrote:maybe not "hacked" like from the outside but a stranger. maybe the lower form of hacking, like a little brother or pissed off ex has rocko's password saved in their shared computer and are logging in as rocko to mess with him. that is possible.

i am sorry. it is time to stop this ignorance. there is no such thing as a "lower level of hacking." there isn't even such a thing as "hacking a password." here is the definition of hacking:
Computer hacking refers to the practice of modifying or altering computer software and hardware to accomplish a goal that is considered to be outside of the creator's original objective. Those individuals who engage in computer hacking activities are typically referred to as “hackers.”

now, what you are all going on about is called PASSWORD CRACKING. it is not a hack, it is a crack. so, kind of like CRACK IS WHACK, think CRACK ISN'T HACK. here is a short explanation:
Password cracking refers to various measures used to discover computer passwords. This is usually accomplished by recovering passwords from data stored in, or transported from, a computer system. Password cracking is done by either repeatedly guessing the password, usually through a computer algorithm in which the computer tries numerous combinations until the password is successfully discovered.

Password cracking can be done for several reasons, but the most malicious reason is in order to gain unauthorized access to a computer without the computer owner’s awareness. This results in cybercrime such as stealing passwords for the purpose of accessing banking information.

Other, nonmalicious, reasons for password cracking occur when someone has misplaced or forgotten a password. Another example of nonmalicious password cracking may take place if a system administrator is conducting tests on password strength as a form of security so that hackers cannot easily access protected systems.

now, can we all go on with our lives and stop using the "his account was hacked" and/or "his password was hacked"? it is CRACKED or CRACKING. please stop. just stop. you all sound so incredibly ignorant thinking a HACKER would spend time to HACK into a users account on this site... "oh boy, i'm going to show this site the ol' what for!!"... sigh...

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Re: Hacking vs. Cracking / this needs to end

Postby elfish_lad on Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:34 pm

My vote? She has been cast!
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Re: Hacking vs. Cracking / this needs to end

Postby IcePack on Fri Mar 11, 2016 1:37 pm

Owens account must have been hacked! Better get the admin to check in on this.
Don't worry CC, the mods are on it.

Rest assured. PSA from the chilly guy
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Re: Hacking vs. Cracking / this needs to end

Postby Arama86n on Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:17 pm

A little obvious, but... still funny IcePack ;)
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Re: Hacking vs. Cracking / this needs to end

Postby BIG_John on Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:09 pm

DANG!!! Someone hacked OS account!! What has this come to! Site is full of hackers!!!! I hope the mods get this under control quick before it the site is overtaken by hackers!!! LMAO!!!!
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Re: Hacking vs. Cracking / this needs to end

Postby owenshooter on Fri Mar 11, 2016 5:19 pm

BIG_John wrote:DANG!!! Someone hacked OS account!! What has this come to! Site is full of hackers!!!! I hope the mods get this under control quick before it the site is overtaken by hackers!!! LMAO!!!!


sigh... i thought the OS/bigWham debate was already brought to light and laid to bed in another thread...

Subject: Big Wham LLC

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dakky21 wrote:One thought just crossed my mind... he could still be reading the forums and even writing posts from his multi account, while not being abused with PM's and messages...

In fact, any of you could be bW


My theory is that he is Owenshooter in his forum posting persona. He cleverly started that persona many years before buying the site, to help throw off those who might search for a connection. Notice Owenshooter has the word shooter imbeded in the name. Shooter which gets us to the NRA (National Rifle Association) connection that always alerts one that a conspiracy theory has some validity.

Now in examining the name Big Wham. Big, could be an electronic form of truck balls, a compensation for a genetic lack. And Wham, maybe Fruity Pebbles for breakfast. Again with all the benefit of my years of not practicing pseudo-Freudian examination. He could, possibly have some severe internal conflict.


which one is it? am i truly part of the Holy Site Trilogy as i have claimed for years or is my account now hacked? sigh... the black jesus can only lay so many bread crumbs...-Jésus noir
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Re: Hacking vs. Cracking / this needs to end

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:57 pm

Since you didn't provide any intelligent options in the poll, I had to choose a stupid option.

I thought you would be above that kind of thing.

I agree, cracking isn't hacking, but the problem goes deeper than that. The absolute carelessness with which people will share their passwords with complete strangers on here is shocking. One doesn't need to hack, crack, or smack anything. One just has to sit around and random strangers will PM you their passwords and ask you to sit turns for them.
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Re: Hacking vs. Cracking / this needs to end

Postby Metsfanmax on Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:47 pm

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Re: Hacking vs. Cracking / this needs to end

Postby boberz on Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:12 am

Are you autistic Owen? I am interested.
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Re: Hacking vs. Cracking / this needs to end

Postby Dukasaur on Sat Mar 12, 2016 7:19 am

boberz wrote:Are you autistic Owen? I am interested.

Do you think it's autism that makes someone get pissed off when other people say stupid shit that they don't even know the meaning of?

If so, then I'm autistic too.


Totally with Owen on this one.


Well, except for the twisted poll options. That's a pet peeve of mine, actually, when people make polls that don't actually cover a reasonable spectrum of possibilities.
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Re: Hacking vs. Cracking / this needs to end

Postby boberz on Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:36 am

Dukasaur wrote:
boberz wrote:Are you autistic Owen? I am interested.

Do you think it's autism that makes someone get pissed off when other people say stupid shit that they don't even know the meaning of?

If so, then I'm autistic too.


Totally with Owen on this one.


Well, except for the twisted poll options. That's a pet peeve of mine, actually, when people make polls that don't actually cover a reasonable spectrum of possibilities.


I agree with Owen too and there is nothing wrong with the poll the thread or indeed being autistic.
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Re: Hacking vs. Cracking / this needs to end

Postby elfish_lad on Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:39 am

I too agree with OS simply on the principle of not wanting to get a PM from him on the subject correcting me.

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Re: Hacking vs. Cracking / this needs to end

Postby Symmetry on Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:29 am

OwensHooter wrote:why is this POST even here? Take it up with a mod. Targetting a player is wrong. The mods have given a DECISION.
You don't understand CC history. This is in too many forums. I PM'd you.

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Re: Hacking vs. Cracking / this needs to end

Postby owenshooter on Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:49 am

Symmetry wrote:
OwensHooter wrote:why is this POST even here? Take it up with a mod. Targetting a player is wrong. The mods have given a DECISION.
You don't understand CC history. This is in too many forums. I PM'd you.

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please show me multiple threads concerning Hacking vs. Cracking. to the best of my knowledge, this is the first in CC history... you, my friend, post the same thread/threads, across multiple forums, essentially beating a dead horse... yes, we all get it, "gay" was against the rules... blah, blah, blah... however, i don't think that applies to this thread. thank you for the trolling, it is appreciated... then again, perhaps your account was CRACKED and this isn't even the real CircumSymmetry... *snicker*... see what i did there? i just gave you a nickname that i'm pretty certain is going to stick... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir
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Re: Hacking vs. Cracking / this needs to end

Postby Symmetry on Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:16 am

owenshooter wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
OwensHooter wrote:why is this POST even here? Take it up with a mod. Targetting a player is wrong. The mods have given a DECISION.
You don't understand CC history. This is in too many forums. I PM'd you.

Big red quote.



My CAPS LOCK is BROKEN.

Ignorance

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I'm not sure I've got your voice right yet.



please show me multiple threads concerning Hacking vs. Cracking.


https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=239&t=217412&start=50#p4795535

https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=217471#p4795537

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OwensHooter wrote:IGNORANCE

Owens, the Owewns,

OwensHooter,

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Re: Hacking vs. Cracking / this needs to end

Postby owenshooter on Sun Mar 13, 2016 12:30 pm

CircumSymmetry wrote:i truly wish people would pay attention to me like they do the black jesus.


can we please keep this on topic? you wreak of desperation. to respond to your weak post, i made that post in the C&A and stated i was going to pursue the topic of hacking vs. cracking in another thread. you obviously could not find any other threads on hacking vs. cracking, because you posted my original post and the thread i started to pursue the matter. that is not multiple threads. the thread the first post was from dealt with a person attacking his team members... *cough*...

you, on the other hand, have created 7 or more threads on the word "GAY", despite the issue being resolved. last week you went off tangent in a C&A thread to the degree that it was locked and portions moved to the GD, where it has died the usual CircumSymmetry death, because nobody cares. you have yet to show me MULTIPLE THREADS on this same topic. this is a pressing matter which needs to be addressed and resolved.

the black jesus has not beaten a dead horse. the black jesus has created the first actual thread on Hacking v. Cracking. and in doing so, once again, has shed light on the forums in the way that only the black jesus can... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

p.s.-they should make a CircumSymmetry rule... you have to complete X amount of games to post X amount of times... you know, for people that don't play games, but waste the communities time with diatribes on the word "gay" and feigned offense of a username they have seen for 3 years in the forums...
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Re: Hacking vs. Cracking / this needs to end

Postby Symmetry on Sun Mar 13, 2016 1:10 pm

owenshooter wrote:
CircumSymmetry wrote:i truly wish people would pay attention to me like they do the black jesus.


can we please keep this on topic? you wreak of desperation. to respond to your weak post, i made that post in the C&A and stated i was going to pursue the topic of hacking vs. cracking in another thread. you obviously could not find any other threads on hacking vs. cracking, because you posted my original post and the thread i started to pursue the matter. that is not multiple threads. the thread the first post was from dealt with a person attacking his team members... *cough*...

you, on the other hand, have created 7 or more threads on the word "GAY", despite the issue being resolved. last week you went off tangent in a C&A thread to the degree that it was locked and portions moved to the GD, where it has died the usual CircumSymmetry death, because nobody cares. you have yet to show me MULTIPLE THREADS on this same topic. this is a pressing matter which needs to be addressed and resolved.

the black jesus has not beaten a dead horse. the black jesus has created the first actual thread on Hacking v. Cracking. and in doing so, once again, has shed light on the forums in the way that only the black jesus can... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

p.s.-they should make a CircumSymmetry rule... you have to complete X amount of games to post X amount of times... you know, for people that don't play games, but waste the communities time with diatribes on the word "gay" and feigned offense of a username they have seen for 3 years in the forums...


I'll pray for you, and that poor dead horse.

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Re: Hacking vs. Cracking / this needs to end

Postby owenshooter on Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:00 pm

this is really informative video on cracking... and Dukasaur requested that the poll be changed, to more accurately reflect what he wants ( ;) )...



i hope this helps!!-BJ

p.s.-someone please teach CircumSymmetry how to quote... i didn't think he could get any more annoying than he already was/is...
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Re: Hacking vs. Cracking / this needs to end

Postby Symmetry on Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:23 pm

Hey, consider me Professor Higgins to your Eliza Doolittle. You're no longer throwing out homophobic slurs, your writing is legible, and even, you're using YouTube videos in your own posts, you don't feel the need to say who you are every other sentence...

This is progress.

Did you even notice that your personal attacks and "CC governance sydrome" symptoms are reduced to a P.S.?

I almost don't have to take the piss at all.
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Re: Hacking vs. Cracking / this needs to end

Postby owenshooter on Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:36 pm

CircumSymmetry wrote:*more off topic rambling and stalking of the Black Jesus*
*someone, anyone, please notice me*


can we please remain on topic? i'm very interested in some of the new guys feelings about one of our classic "HACKING" episodes here on CC:


Subject: benjis_widow - account abuse [banned]

e_i_pi wrote:Accused:

benjis_widow


The accused are suspected of:

Account abuse
Points dumping by proxy
Teammate killing by proxy
Being a general pain in the ass, for the players and the mods


Comments:

She has been logging onto accounts within LoW by using passwords BENJI stored in his saved folder. The accounts she has logged into are lt.pie, waseemalim, and Velvecarrots. These accounts have been deactivated, along with BENJIKAT IS DEAD, but we do not know how many passwords were stored in the Saved Folder, and whether they were written down for later shennanigans. She has also been dragging our names through the mud in the forums, starting massive numbers of games for points dumping, and taking turns involving teammate killing and general disarray. It would be appreciated if this account was dealt with to at least send the message that this sort of behaviour is not tolerated. In the long run, this will lead to less work that the mods have to do as, at the moment, it is a trainwreck.


this was the most prominent case of password abuse in CC history (outside of Blitzaholic... *cough*... miss that dude, i really do...)... anyway, this is a classic example of CRACKING vs. HACKING. the passwords were stored and a neglected wife took it upon herself to get rid of "the other woman" in the relationship. this may be really hard for people newer to the site to believe... however, that is how big and involved this community once was (and is trying to become again)... it made an enraged wife misappropriate passwords and wreck multiple accounts and even went so far as to take it to the forums...

this is CRACKING, not HACKING... the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir
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Re: Hacking vs. Cracking / this needs to end

Postby elfish_lad on Sun Mar 13, 2016 4:51 pm

Hmmm. OS? You've meantioned a painful, but oft repeated event in CC's storied past. And yet I must correct you, in the case meantioned above we call that smacking.

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Re: Hacking vs. Cracking / this needs to end

Postby owenshooter on Mon Mar 14, 2016 9:31 am

elfish_lad wrote:Hmmm. OS? You've meantioned a painful, but oft repeated event in CC's storied past. And yet I must correct you, in the case meantioned above we call that smacking.

Esmacked


i have never heard it called that before. can you give me a source for this? is this what you and your friends call it or a general slang term? i am unable to find any reference to anything called "smacking" or "Esmacked" that deal with this topic. thank you in advance...-BJ
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Re: Hacking vs. Cracking / this needs to end

Postby RiskTycoon on Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:00 am

Who cares?

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