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Re: ConfederateSS- offensive username

Postby Symmetry on Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:05 pm

TeeGee wrote:Although this was about North and south USA -and I admit I know very very little about the whole thing living in a real other world country where USA history holds little to no importance, it is an interesting topic for discussion. We ban usernames that offend some users, yet this is an international website and we allow all players regardless of nationality, religion of political belief.

I am sure we did and may still have members of the Taliban as members and I am sure they are offended by patriotic American usernames, should we ban them all too. It is a case of, this is a war gaming site and we all need to be thicker skinned.

Apologies to ES for driving this off topic.


Do you feel that this site's community should include the Taliban, Nazis, etc.., knowing that accepting such hate groups as sanctioned offends and repels others?

Of course, you are being a bit misleading though, asking for a change in username is not a request for a ban.

Asking for people to grow a thicker skin over the issue of the Confederacy seems like you might need to reconsider your understanding of skin colour and the role it played in the racist Confederate States.

Asking for a thicker skin over the Nazis? I just will never find them acceptable.
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Re: ConfederateSS- offensive username

Postby owenshooter on Sat Mar 05, 2016 11:36 pm

Symmetry wrote:
TeeGee wrote:Although this was about North and south USA -and I admit I know very very little about the whole thing living in a real other world country where USA history holds little to no importance, it is an interesting topic for discussion. We ban usernames that offend some users, yet this is an international website and we allow all players regardless of nationality, religion of political belief.

I am sure we did and may still have members of the Taliban as members and I am sure they are offended by patriotic American usernames, should we ban them all too. It is a case of, this is a war gaming site and we all need to be thicker skinned.

Apologies to ES for driving this off topic.


Do you feel that this site's community should include the Taliban, Nazis, etc.., knowing that accepting such hate groups as sanctioned offends and repels others?

Of course, you are being a bit misleading though, asking for a change in username is not a request for a ban.

Asking for people to grow a thicker skin over the issue of the Confederacy seems like you might need to reconsider your understanding of skin colour and the role it played in the racist Confederate States.

Asking for a thicker skin over the Nazis? I just will never find them acceptable.


and it took you three years to be offended by his username... he has been active in the forums for three years... three years for this name to be considered offensive by you... he has been active in the forum for three years... three years to be offended by his username... *eyes rolling out of my black jesus skull*...-Jésus noir

p.s.-see what i did there? i posted just like you do. you know, repeating the same thing over and over and over... THREE YEARS TO BE OFFENDED...
p.p.s.-i always thought it was Southern States...
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Re: ConfederateSS- offensive username

Postby Symmetry on Sun Mar 06, 2016 12:00 am

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Symmetry wrote:
TeeGee wrote:Although this was about North and south USA -and I admit I know very very little about the whole thing living in a real other world country where USA history holds little to no importance, it is an interesting topic for discussion. We ban usernames that offend some users, yet this is an international website and we allow all players regardless of nationality, religion of political belief.

I am sure we did and may still have members of the Taliban as members and I am sure they are offended by patriotic American usernames, should we ban them all too. It is a case of, this is a war gaming site and we all need to be thicker skinned.

Apologies to ES for driving this off topic.


Do you feel that this site's community should include the Taliban, Nazis, etc.., knowing that accepting such hate groups as sanctioned offends and repels others?

Of course, you are being a bit misleading though, asking for a change in username is not a request for a ban.

Asking for people to grow a thicker skin over the issue of the Confederacy seems like you might need to reconsider your understanding of skin colour and the role it played in the racist Confederate States.

Asking for a thicker skin over the Nazis? I just will never find them acceptable.


and it took you three years to be offended by his username... he has been active in the forums for three years... three years for this name to be considered offensive by you... he has been active in the forum for three years... three years to be offended by his username... *eyes rolling out of my black jesus skull*...-Jésus noir

p.s.-see what i did there? i posted just like you do. you know, repeating the same thing over and over and over... THREE YEARS TO BE OFFENDED...
p.p.s.-i always thought it was Southern States...


You've been a poster here longer than me. Why did you think black history month was important only recently?

Your argument cuts both ways, Owen, and of course I already posted my earlier objectiion to his username above.

Believe it or not, I've not been tracking him since he started posting.
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Re: ConfederateSS- offensive username

Postby TeeGee on Sun Mar 06, 2016 1:56 am

I will move relevant parts of this thread to Conquer club discussions shortly
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Re: ConfederateSS- offensive username

Postby TeeGee on Sun Mar 06, 2016 1:57 am

Symmetry wrote:You've been a poster here longer than me. Why did you think black history month was important only recently?

Your argument cuts both ways, Owen, and of course I already posted my earlier objectiion to his username above.

Believe it or not, I've not been tracking him since he started posting.



I know some Australian Aboriginals who take offense to the term BLACK History month.

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Re: ConfederateSS- offensive username

Postby TeeGee on Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:00 am

Symmetry wrote:
Do you feel that this site's community should include the Taliban, Nazis, etc.., knowing that accepting such hate groups as sanctioned offends and repels others?

Of course, you are being a bit misleading though, asking for a change in username is not a request for a ban.

Asking for people to grow a thicker skin over the issue of the Confederacy seems like you might need to reconsider your understanding of skin colour and the role it played in the racist Confederate States.

Asking for a thicker skin over the Nazis? I just will never find them acceptable.


Just for you i will bring it back into perspective

What about The Dukes of Hazzard? Word wide audience in its day and a BIG flag that you find so offensive on the roof.. But why was it accepted?
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Re: ConfederateSS- offensive username

Postby Symmetry on Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:02 am

Three posts in a row? And a move?

It's almost as if you find the discussion uncomfortable.
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Re: ConfederateSS- offensive username

Postby TeeGee on Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:23 am

not at all, But the DISCUSSION does not belong here it belongs in CC discussion (formerly general discussion) However you are only going off at what the rest of the world considers a small civil war and I pointed out the majority of your country moved past it many years ago, and now you are deflecting
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Re: ConfederateSS- offensive username

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Sun Mar 06, 2016 4:19 am

TeeGee wrote:real other world country where USA history holds little to no importance


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Re: ConfederateSS- offensive username

Postby owenshooter on Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:30 am

Symmetry wrote:


and, here we go again... i have no idea why this was moved, why it hasn't been locked and why discussing a member in the open public forums is being allowed. this is pretty much against a slew of CC forum rules and should be locked. a decision was made, you are now beating a dead horse. the community guidelines are very clear. at this point, you need to PM an Admin.

FORUM GUIDELINES wrote:Don't flog a dead horse. If a discussion is over, it's over. Screaming louder, more or in a different place is not going to change the answer already given. If you think the answer was wrong, PM an Admin. If you think the admin is wrong, then this probably isn't the right community for you.


how is it that i am the only member here that knows this rule? this is 100% against the forum guidelines and should be locked down. the discussion is over. an answer was given. he does not like it and now wants to continue the same dead debate in another portion of the forum. i implore the Admins/Moderators to follow their own guidelines and lock this thread. if the user wants to start a new SUGGESTION thread on offensive user names, he should get right on it. if he wants to continue this debate, the rules are clear, contact an Admin.

the black jesus is weary of this users continued disregard of the CC FORUM GUIDELINES. enough is enough. the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

p.s.-fact check yourself symmetry. my black history sig is old, not new, from a contest my clan ran in '09. that is over 7 years ago... please explain to me how posting about black history month, during black history month for the past 7 years is comparable to your suddenly finding Confeds user name offensive (after looking at it for 3 years)?
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Re: ConfederateSS- offensive username

Postby Symmetry on Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:09 pm

TeeGee wrote:not at all, But the DISCUSSION does not belong here it belongs in CC discussion (formerly general discussion) However you are only going off at what the rest of the world considers a small civil war and I pointed out the majority of your country moved past it many years ago, and now you are deflecting


Hmm, read your PM, which was kinda lame, bro.

I have no idea which war you're referring to with this though, If you're referring to the second world war, there are still trials of SS members ongoing.

http://nypost.com/2016/02/10/ex-auschwitz-guard-on-trial-in-late-push-to-punish-nazi-war-crimes/

If it's the US, you're referring to, I don't agree that its legacy is something the country has moved on from:

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-klan-rally-in-anaheim-erupts-in-violence-one-man-stabbed-20160227-story.html
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Re: please lock this thread

Postby owenshooter on Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:13 pm

Symmetry wrote:
TeeGee wrote:not at all, But the DISCUSSION does not belong here it belongs in CC discussion (formerly general discussion) However you are only going off at what the rest of the world considers a small civil war and I pointed out the majority of your country moved past it many years ago, and now you are deflecting


Hmm, read your PM, which was kinda lame, bro.

I have no idea which war you're referring to with this though, If you're referring to the second world war, there are still trials of SS members ongoing.

http://nypost.com/2016/02/10/ex-auschwitz-guard-on-trial-in-late-push-to-punish-nazi-war-crimes/

If it's the US, you're referring to, I don't agree that its legacy is something the country has moved on from:

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-klan-rally-in-anaheim-erupts-in-violence-one-man-stabbed-20160227-story.html


regardless of what he wrote, it is a clear violation of the forum guidelines and should be locked. mods make errors/mistakes all the time. there is absolutely no debating the rule i posted. i did not see you try to dismiss that. this should be locked. this is a clear forum violation. i stand by my post:

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Symmetry wrote:


and, here we go again... i have no idea why this was moved, why it hasn't been locked and why discussing a member in the open public forums is being allowed. this is pretty much against a slew of CC forum rules and should be locked. a decision was made, you are now beating a dead horse. the community guidelines are very clear. at this point, you need to PM an Admin.

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how is it that i am the only member here that knows this rule? this is 100% against the forum guidelines and should be locked down. the discussion is over. an answer was given. he does not like it and now wants to continue the same dead debate in another portion of the forum. i implore the Admins/Moderators to follow their own guidelines and lock this thread. if the user wants to start a new SUGGESTION thread on offensive user names, he should get right on it. if he wants to continue this debate, the rules are clear, contact an Admin.

the black jesus is weary of this users continued disregard of the CC FORUM GUIDELINES. enough is enough. the black jesus has spoken...-Jésus noir

p.s.-fact check yourself symmetry. my black history sig is old, not new, from a contest my clan ran in '09. that is over 7 years ago... please explain to me how posting about black history month, during black history month for the past 7 years is comparable to your suddenly finding Confeds user name offensive (after looking at it for 3 years)?
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Re: ConfederateSS- offensive username

Postby Symmetry on Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:27 pm

Have you PM'd a mod Owen? It sort of looks like you're just posting the same thing again after a judgement has been made.
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Re: ConfederateSS- offensive username

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:43 pm

Symmetry wrote:
I have no idea which war you're referring to


THEN WHY DID YOU EVEN START THIS THREAD!? You cant play the fool and claim to be intelligent at the same time.
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Re: ConfederateSS- offensive username

Postby owenshooter on Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:55 pm

Symmetry wrote:Have you PM'd a mod Owen? It sort of looks like you're just posting the same thing again after a judgement has been made.

yes, i have. and unlike the chicken shit reporters that don't let anyone know when they have been reported, i included you on the PM to King A and Evil Semp (the original mod that ruled the thread CLOSED). i hope my response and the PM in your inbox satisfy as an answer.

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Symmetry wrote:
I have no idea which war you're referring to


THEN WHY DID YOU EVEN START THIS THREAD!? You cant play the fool and claim to be intelligent at the same time.


well... when you consider his main tool for debates/discussion, is the non-stop regurgitation of the same points, ad nauseam... this is not much of a shock...
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Re: ConfederateSS- offensive username

Postby Symmetry on Sun Mar 06, 2016 4:14 pm

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
I have no idea which war you're referring to


THEN WHY DID YOU EVEN START THIS THREAD!? You cant play the fool and claim to be intelligent at the same time.


His username refers to two wars. I object to the glorification of both the Nazis and the Confederacy.

The post was ambiguous as to which one, so I gave replies to both possibilities, although I note that you edited that part out.

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Re: please lock this thread

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Sun Mar 06, 2016 4:27 pm

TeeGee wrote: world considers a small civil war


Civil War - "a war between citizens of the same country."

Symmetry wrote:The post was ambiguous as to which one


Dont pull that crap.
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Re: please lock this thread

Postby Symmetry on Sun Mar 06, 2016 4:40 pm

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
TeeGee wrote: world considers a small civil war


Civil War - "a war between citizens of the same country."

Symmetry wrote:The post was ambiguous as to which one


Dont pull that crap.


He referred to my country being over it. I'm British, so I wasn't sure. People like ConfederateSS often dismiss WW2 as a civil war between Europeans.

I really don't see why my post caused upset. Unless you're just replying to the severely edited version.

I replied to both possibilities. Have a look at my unedited actual post if you're not sure.
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Re: ConfederateSS- offensive username

Postby DoomYoshi on Sun Mar 06, 2016 8:27 pm

Really all wars are civil wars.

Here is the legitimate map of Germany, everyone who thinks otherwise is a Confederate secessionist:
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Re: ConfederateSS- offensive username

Postby tkr4lf on Mon Mar 07, 2016 9:13 am

This is a stupid fucking thread and all of you should feel ashamed for having taken part in it.
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Re: ConfederateSS- offensive username

Postby xroads on Mon Mar 07, 2016 9:45 am

Personally I am offended that we have people who never play games, yet constantly spam the boards with non gaming posts.
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Re: ConfederateSS- offensive username

Postby Metsfanmax on Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:06 pm

xroads wrote:Personally I am offended that we have people who never play games, yet constantly spam the boards with non gaming posts.


Personally I am offended that we have people who play games, and constantly spam the boards with gaming posts.
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Re: ConfederateSS- offensive username

Postby xroads on Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:23 pm

yes you would think this is a social media site instead of a gaming site.
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Re: ConfederateSS- offensive username

Postby Army of GOD on Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:07 pm

your mom is an offensive username
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Re: ConfederateSS- offensive username

Postby Silly Knig-it on Mon Mar 07, 2016 2:30 pm

Did anybody who was bothered by the name, like I was, ask him?

I did and am no longer bothered by the name.
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