Cc is a gamesite

[jgordon1111]

Had a yada

[IcePack]

I don't know that this would really work, new players should be able to post / contribute even if they haven't won or anything yet.

The easiest way would be to block / ban the ones who are causing the problem if the site wanted to address the issue, but I'm not sure they do. The people even if not playing are still participating / being part of the community

[jgordon1111]

Are you saying that CC wants these non players because its simply a number boost that looks good on paper, because other sites don't allow this, blood brothers, grepolis just to site a few,where freemium, preemium co exist play, but if you speak but don't play your dealt with quickly.

[BrutalBob]

Its funny, I only noticed yesterday that there are people that dont actually play yet are very active in the forums.

It struck me as an odd thing to do given how many other avenues there are around to communicate on the internet- and that most of the threads they are involved in dont relate to the game at all.

I dont see why its a problem though. Its just someone spouting out an opinion like everyone else. Whether they actually play the game doesnt really impact their opinion on off topic subjects

[IcePack]

Are you saying that CC wants these non players because its simply a number boost that looks good on paper, because other sites don't allow this, blood brothers, grepolis just to site a few,where freemium, preemium co exist play, but if you speak but don't play your dealt with quickly.

I dont claim to speak for the site, not really a numbers boost issue. But they "contribute" to the site forum area and activity and I doubt they would chase people off for simply participating unless for some reason they felt particular people were doing more harm then good.

That being said, those games seem much larger than CC and probably could afford to "run some off" while CC is stressing activity and trying to get people back / involved.

[Shannon Apple]

So, you're saying that if I decide not to play any games for several months, but still want to be part of and contribute to the community, I shouldn't? I have done it. I have been around for 6 months and not played a single game due to not being able to commit to logging in every single day to take turns. When I get sick of playing, or can't play due to real life commitments, I will just slink into the background and still do mod stuff as necessary, and post on the forum from time to time.

People should have a right to play as many games as they please. If they are causing issues on the site, they should be dealt with. The rules are so slack that I am not even sure of what constitutes a breaking of the rules though. There are a few people on this site that I would throw a few temp forum bans on if it was up to me because they are out of control, but it's not.

[jgordon1111]

So, you're saying that if I decide not to play any games for several months, but still want to be part of and contribute to the community, I shouldn't? I have done it. I have been around for 6 months and not played a single game due to not being able to commit to logging in every single day to take turns. When I get sick of playing, or can't play due to real life commitments, I will just slink into the background and still do mod stuff as necessary, and post on the forum from time to time.

People should have a right to play as many games as they please. If they are causing issues on the site, they should be dealt with. The rules are so slack that I am not even sure of what constitutes a breaking of the rules though. There are a few people on this site that I would throw a few temp forum bans on if it was up to me because they are out of control, but it's not.

I looked at your wall, you mistake my intent it seems, there are people who have been here longer than you who haven't even near your games and it is obvious they don't intend to even try to play, with as much time as they spend trolling the forums you would think they had time for at least four games a month, but it isn't so.

[Metsfanmax]

If you don't want to participate in off-topic discussions, you don't have to. But they're off-topic. It has nothing to do with CC gameplay, and never has.

If there are certain people you don't like, you are always free to use the foe button and you won't have to read their posts anymore. It is childish to suggest that the rest of us have to stop interacting with them too, simply because you don't want to.

[pmchugh]

If you don't want to participate in off-topic discussions, you don't have to. But they're off-topic. It has nothing to do with CC gameplay, and never has.

If there are certain people you don't like, you are always free to use the foe button and you won't have to read their posts anymore. It is childish to suggest that the rest of us have to stop interacting with them too, simply because you don't want to.

Exactly this.

I am probably one of the people you are referring to, since I am currently active in 0 games and freemium. Although I am over 4 games per month and I have paid for premium in the past, not sure exactly how many times but probably around 3. I am 100% sure that would never have happened if it wasn't for the forums, it is called community and it is a good thing for the site.

[GoranZ]

Or so it claims to be,

Premium players and freemium good.
Don't change this part, the part that needs to change is the people who use this site as a personal blog , they don't play all they do is use this Game site to push their personal ideaology and that's not why most are here, yes the forums are great,but when all you see is non players constantly littering it with their agenda its ridiculous., in short you play or you leave. Set up a system that balances how many games you must play, and you must win some to have access to the rest of the site. No play(to win) no talk

The benefits are simple, those who come to this site to play a game they love and talk to other players who love the game, can actually enjoy this entire site, without having to see every forum besotted by those who love that its a blog spot for their personal ideaology.

This:

If you don't want to participate in off-topic discussions, you don't have to. But they're off-topic. It has nothing to do with CC gameplay, and never has.

When it is up to CC related topics, you must take into account that freemiums are as good with ideas as paying members, and those ideas are driving the site forward. Banning fremmiums to introduce new ideas is same as cutting the branch on which you sit.

[jgordon1111]

Where to start
Ice, I wasn't suggesting you speak for CC
Pmc, your name never crossed my mind in this topic
Goran, I am not suggesting in any way freemium not being allowed in forums
Mets .....,,,,,
That covers it good day all

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Pmc, your name never crossed my mind in this topic

Your suggestion allows no room for subjective differentiation. Under this suggestion PMC would be banned from forum posting.

I believe what you really want to suggest is tightening of the forum rules in line with Shannon's feelings, which then has nothing to do with whether someone plays or not.

[Evil Semp]

It is like a park for kids. Just because most like to play on the slice and I play on the swings and never on the slide I shouldn't be allowed into the park?

[jgordon1111]

Pmc, your name never crossed my mind in this topic

Your suggestion allows no room for subjective differentiation. Under this suggestion PMC would be banned from forum posting.

I believe what you really want to suggest is tightening of the forum rules in line with Shannon's feelings, which then has nothing to do with whether someone plays or not.

No ginkapo, I read again my original post, just to make sure what I said, read the part about set up a system to balanced the games.... I made a suggestion, it wasn't a demand, that leaves it wide open for CC Admin to choose the criteria for who is and isn't a player here.And again to reiterate Pmc was not the reason for this suggestion. Read that add on, or PLAYERS like him!

[jgordon1111]

It is like a park for kids. Just because most like to play on the slice and I play on the swings and never on the slide I shouldn't be allowed into the park?

Semp but why go to the park, if your not going to play at all, your whole reason is to attempt to make everyone else aggravated by doing and saying ignorant things with only that in mind, if that is your only purpose wouldn't your parents at some point step in and stop it? you see the correlation here? Most game sites draw lines with things like I am speaking of CC draws lines on freemium PLAYERS already, types of games, how many, speed etc, why not stop those who intentionally won't play, but blog everyday,

[IcePack]

Where to start
Ice, I wasn't suggesting you speak for CC

Are you saying that CC wants, these non players because its simply a number boost that looks good on paper....

You were asking whether or not the site wanted something, which suggests asking me to answer "what CC wants" (the site, not the community) which is why I clarified that I wasn't speaking for the site (an important clarification as a TeamCC volunteer).

[jgordon1111]

Ok Ice, I reviewed why I posed my response to you in the way I did,and the time I didn't realize the position I was placing you in, I keyed off the blurb in your response where it said not sure they do, I took that to mean, they are aware but indifferent but it might be a numbers game.hope this explains better and lets you know not my intent to put you on the spot

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

The way this forum works is someone makes a suggestion:

Set up a system that balances how many games you must play, and you must win some to have access to the rest of the site. No play(to win) no talk

And the community debates its merits.

I think it is a terrible idea as it negatively affects a lot of positive contributors to the site. (You say you dont mean it to affect PMC and others similar, but it will by its very definition).

If CC is a gamesite, then why have an off-topics forum at all? Lets delete it and whilst we're at it take the soul out of the site.

[jgordon1111]

Thank all of you for your responses they all have been helpful more than you think

[iAmCaffeine]

If you don't want to participate in off-topic discussions, you don't have to. But they're off-topic. It has nothing to do with CC gameplay, and never has.

If there are certain people you don't like, you are always free to use the foe button and you won't have to read their posts anymore. It is childish to suggest that the rest of us have to stop interacting with them too, simply because you don't want to.

Exactly this.

I am probably one of the people you are referring to, since I am currently active in 0 games and freemium. Although I am over 4 games per month and I have paid for premium in the past, not sure exactly how many times but probably around 3. I am 100% sure that would never have happened if it wasn't for the forums, it is called community and it is a good thing for the site.

Both of these.

[Symmetry]

If you don't want to participate in off-topic discussions, you don't have to. But they're off-topic. It has nothing to do with CC gameplay, and never has.

If there are certain people you don't like, you are always free to use the foe button and you won't have to read their posts anymore. It is childish to suggest that the rest of us have to stop interacting with them too, simply because you don't want to.

Exactly this.

I am probably one of the people you are referring to, since I am currently active in 0 games and freemium. Although I am over 4 games per month and I have paid for premium in the past, not sure exactly how many times but probably around 3. I am 100% sure that would never have happened if it wasn't for the forums, it is called community and it is a good thing for the site.

Both of these.

Aye, I think he was going for me a bit too. My participation on the site kinda depends on my wellness and energy. I have little time for bullies and basterds.

[BrutalBob]

If you don't want to participate in off-topic discussions, you don't have to. But they're off-topic. It has nothing to do with CC gameplay, and never has.

If there are certain people you don't like, you are always free to use the foe button and you won't have to read their posts anymore. It is childish to suggest that the rest of us have to stop interacting with them too, simply because you don't want to.

Exactly this.

I am probably one of the people you are referring to, since I am currently active in 0 games and freemium. Although I am over 4 games per month and I have paid for premium in the past, not sure exactly how many times but probably around 3. I am 100% sure that would never have happened if it wasn't for the forums, it is called community and it is a good thing for the site.

Both of these.

Aye, I think he was going for me a bit too. My participation on the site kinda depends on my wellness and energy. I have little time for bullies and basterds.

hey everyone he spelled bastard wrong!! haha what an idiot!! omg, I dont believe it. i just want to say this spelling mistake negates any point he was trying to make and allows me to tell him that his opinion doesnt matter either. I'll also mention that we covered this exact same point in January 2009 (i have inboxed the link to you). i said this exact same thing then as well. i am magnificent. if i have time i might tell him off doing things that i frequently do.

[Symmetry]

If you don't want to participate in off-topic discussions, you don't have to. But they're off-topic. It has nothing to do with CC gameplay, and never has.

If there are certain people you don't like, you are always free to use the foe button and you won't have to read their posts anymore. It is childish to suggest that the rest of us have to stop interacting with them too, simply because you don't want to.

Exactly this.

I am probably one of the people you are referring to, since I am currently active in 0 games and freemium. Although I am over 4 games per month and I have paid for premium in the past, not sure exactly how many times but probably around 3. I am 100% sure that would never have happened if it wasn't for the forums, it is called community and it is a good thing for the site.

Both of these.

Aye, I think he was going for me a bit too. My participation on the site kinda depends on my wellness and energy. I have little time for bullies and basterds.

hey everyone he spelled bastard wrong!! haha what an idiot!! omg, I dont believe it. i just want to say this spelling mistake negates any point he was trying to make and allows me to tell him that his opinion doesnt matter either. I'll also mention that we covered this exact same point in January 2009 (i have inboxed the link to you). i said this exact same thing then as well. i am magnificent. if i have time i might tell him off doing things that i frequently do.

Who are you again?

[jgordon1111]

Actually my suggestion here was aimed at people more like emmeapollama , who spammed the living shit out off CC yesterday took less than 24 hrs from time joined to spam every single section of CC, my suggestion would have made it a he'll of alot harder to do it. Game site Blood Brothers learned the hard way when they had similar rules to CC and kept letting same type of spam happen, most of the countries mentioned paid attention and went to international court system, suddenly things took a dramatic change on that site.

[BrutalBob]

I have been on other gamesite forums where newcomers are restricted from posting until amod decides they can be trusted and has to manually add this permission. I dont know how they make that call because they wouldnt tell you, nor would they tell how long it actually takes as spammers could then figure it out and game the system.

It is pretty confusing for the newcomer and a little disappointing as they want to get involved and ask questions etc.

Yesterday was the first time i have seen spam here and to be honest if that is the extent of it i say its a worthwhile tradeoff.