dice sucks

[BrutalBob]

Oh please... How many people do you see complaining about their good dice?
The fact that they only post their bad dice proves the motive is a negative bias. Just not worth listening to.

Me.

I don't complain about my good dice necessarily, but if you look back you will see I do acknowledge that I have my fair share of ridiculously good runs that ruin an opponents game.

Its a fair point to make that there are many lopsided good and bad runs that affect gameplay too much. So many of the regular players advise not to use auto roll because of the lopsided results.

[iAmCaffeine]

CC-logic:
bad luck = conspiracy!
good luck = pure skill

Not to anyone who has a clue.

The dice are sourced from a limited pool, ergo, they are not random.

Oh please... How many people do you see complaining about their good dice?
The fact that they only post their bad dice proves the motive is a negative bias. Just not worth listening to.

My point is that those with any dignity regularly acknowledge if they've received an unfair drop or rolled amazingly well. Of course I'm speaking from my own experience. There are also many players that do as you say; whom I would say do not have a clue.

[Dukasaur]

And then there are the games where the guy bitches about how bad his dice are even while they're crushing yours, and you're thinking "WTF?!?!"

[Condestável]

Another game, another fraudulent lopsided outcome. It's fucking game after fucking game... then miraculously the odds invert against shitty ranked players.

I started first and had all advantage. In his turn, 1st round, with 1 drop he conquered 3+3+3+3+3 and all North America. In second turn he conquered 3+3+3+3 and South America. In 3rd turn all Africa and i didn't even play the 4th round.

This game is a swindle.

2015-11-17 00:26:59 - Game has been initialized
2015-11-17 00:26:59 - ZFL has a score of 1941.
2015-11-17 00:26:59 - Condestável has a score of 1314.
2015-11-17 00:27:43 - Condestável received 4 troops for 14 regions
2015-11-17 00:27:49 - Condestável deployed 4 troops on Sao Paulo
2015-11-17 00:28:05 - Condestável assaulted Buenos Aires from Sao Paulo and conquered it from ZFL
2015-11-17 00:28:47 - Condestável reinforced Sao Paulo with 2 troops from Cape Town
2015-11-17 00:28:47 - Condestável ended the turn and got spoils
2015-11-17 00:28:50 - ZFL received 4 troops for 13 regions
2015-11-17 00:28:58 - ZFL deployed 1 troops on ?
2015-11-17 00:29:03 - ZFL deployed 1 troops on ?
2015-11-17 00:29:08 - ZFL deployed 2 troops on ?
2015-11-17 00:29:12 - ZFL assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-17 00:29:24 - ZFL assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-17 00:29:38 - ZFL assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-17 00:29:44 - ZFL assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-17 00:29:58 - ZFL reinforced ? with 2 troops from ?
2015-11-17 00:29:58 - ZFL ended the turn and got spoils
2015-11-17 00:29:59 - Incrementing game to round 2
2015-11-17 00:31:01 - Condestável received 3 troops for 11 regions
2015-11-17 00:31:09 - Condestável deployed 3 troops on Sao Paulo
2015-11-17 00:31:16 - Condestável assaulted Lima from Sao Paulo and conquered it from neutral player
2015-11-17 00:32:09 - Condestável assaulted Bogota from Sao Paulo and conquered it from neutral player
2015-11-17 00:33:19 - Condestável reinforced Sao Paulo with 2 troops from Johannesburg
2015-11-17 00:33:19 - Condestável ended the turn and got spoils
2015-11-17 00:33:22 - ZFL received 5 troops for holding ?
2015-11-17 00:33:22 - ZFL received 5 troops for 17 regions
2015-11-17 00:33:25 - ZFL deployed 10 troops on ?
2015-11-17 00:33:27 - ZFL assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-17 00:33:34 - ZFL assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-17 00:33:37 - ZFL assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-17 00:33:40 - ZFL assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-17 00:33:56 - ZFL reinforced ? with 2 troops from ?
2015-11-17 00:33:56 - ZFL ended the turn and got spoils
2015-11-17 00:33:57 - Incrementing game to round 3
2015-11-17 00:35:22 - Condestável received 3 troops for 9 regions
2015-11-17 00:35:25 - Condestável deployed 3 troops on Dakar
2015-11-17 00:36:23 - Condestável assaulted Novosibirsk from Beijing and conquered it from ZFL
2015-11-17 00:38:41 - Condestável ended the turn and got spoils
2015-11-17 00:38:53 - ZFL received 5 troops for holding ?
2015-11-17 00:38:53 - ZFL received 2 troops for holding ?
2015-11-17 00:38:53 - ZFL received 6 troops for 20 regions
2015-11-17 00:38:59 - ZFL deployed 1 troops on ?
2015-11-17 00:39:04 - ZFL deployed 2 troops on ?
2015-11-17 00:39:09 - ZFL deployed 1 troops on ?
2015-11-17 00:39:13 - ZFL deployed 1 troops on ?
2015-11-17 00:39:18 - ZFL deployed 1 troops on ?
2015-11-17 00:39:21 - ZFL deployed 7 troops on ?
2015-11-17 00:39:25 - ZFL assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-17 00:39:35 - ZFL assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-17 00:39:39 - ZFL assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-17 00:39:42 - ZFL assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-17 00:39:43 - ZFL assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-17 00:39:49 - ZFL assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-17 00:39:54 - ZFL assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-17 00:39:57 - ZFL assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-17 00:40:04 - ZFL assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-17 00:40:13 - ZFL reinforced ? with 5 troops from ?
2015-11-17 00:40:13 - ZFL ended the turn and got spoils
2015-11-17 00:40:13 - Incrementing game to round 4
2015-11-17 00:40:29 - Condestável received 3 troops for 1 regions
2015-11-17 00:40:31 - Condestável deployed 3 troops on Port Moresby
2015-11-17 00:40:37 - Condestável assaulted Sydney from Port Moresby and conquered it from neutral player
2015-11-17 00:41:16 - Condestável ended the turn and got spoils

2015-11-17 00:27:39 - Condestável: Hello there, good luck
2015-11-17 00:27:47 - ZFL: wow. am i in trouble or what. incredible
2015-11-17 00:27:52 - ZFL: lol
2015-11-17 00:28:58 - Condestável: yeah
2015-11-17 00:29:11 - Condestável: you got one of my usual drops
2015-11-17 00:29:47 - Condestável: just check the pink player in the other game I'm involved
2015-11-17 00:30:51 - Condestável: 4???
2015-11-17 00:30:59 - Condestável: you took 4???
2015-11-17 00:32:39 - ZFL: yeah, i had to split up troops and go pretty aggressive and hope for some great luck to stand a chance in this one
2015-11-17 00:34:59 - ZFL: i'm way shocked. sorry man
2015-11-17 00:35:11 - Condestável: man, this is insane
2015-11-17 00:35:40 - Condestável: w tf
2015-11-17 00:35:51 - Condestável: wtff
2015-11-17 00:36:21 - ZFL: sorry man. i got north america when i took those four of yours out of there. it was incredible.

Recent dice rolls (25 battles)

Condestável 4.8 ZFL 4.9
Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's
Assault -8% 3.31 3 2 5 2 1 3 +12% 3.80 0 0 4 4 2 0
Defend -13% 3.17 10 4 8 4 4 6 +11% 3.77 10 9 12 11 10 17
Total -12% 3.21 13 6 13 6 5 9 +11% 3.77 10 9 16 15 12 17
Overall dice rolls

Condestável 4.8 ZFL 4.9
Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's
Assault -8% 3.31 3 2 5 2 1 3 +12% 3.80 0 0 4 4 2 0
Defend -21% 2.97 20 4 15 7 7 7 +4% 3.60 13 18 20 20 15 19
Total -18% 3.04 23 6 20 9 8 10 +5% 3.62 13 18 24 24 17 19

What a fucking hoax.

[Condestável]

This has happened for weeks, I'm only able to win against low ranked non-premium members.

That's how they get high ratings, they've got used to extraordinary outcomes, simply because they have access to lopsided results.

They all invest a 10 unit against 16 units, they win and they move on.

2015-11-18 20:45:27 - Game has been initialized
2015-11-18 20:45:27 - MAC1812 has a score of 1940.
2015-11-18 20:45:27 - Condestável has a score of 1300.
2015-11-18 20:45:40 - Condestável began deploying initial troops
2015-11-18 20:46:22 - Condestável ended the turn
2015-11-18 21:07:44 - MAC1812 began deploying initial troops
2015-11-18 21:08:28 - MAC1812 ended the turn
2015-11-18 21:08:28 - Incrementing game to round 2
2015-11-18 21:10:31 - Condestável received 4 troops for 14 regions
2015-11-18 21:12:30 - Condestável deployed 4 troops on Mexico City
2015-11-18 21:12:48 - Condestável assaulted Perth from Jakarta and conquered it from neutral player
2015-11-18 21:13:00 - Condestável assaulted Port Moresby from Sydney and conquered it from MAC1812
2015-11-18 21:13:52 - Condestável reinforced Bangkok with 14 troops from Port Moresby
2015-11-18 21:13:52 - Condestável ended the turn and got spoils
2015-11-18 21:38:49 - MAC1812 received 4 troops for 13 regions
2015-11-18 21:38:53 - MAC1812 deployed 4 troops on Mumbai
2015-11-18 21:39:06 - MAC1812 assaulted Bangkok from Mumbai and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-18 21:39:17 - MAC1812 assaulted Lagos from Dakar and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-18 21:39:23 - MAC1812 assaulted Madrid from Dakar and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-18 21:39:30 - MAC1812 assaulted Cairo from Dakar and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-18 21:39:32 - MAC1812 assaulted Dubai from Cairo and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-18 21:39:39 - MAC1812 assaulted Reykjavik from Montreal and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-18 21:39:46 - MAC1812 assaulted Edmonton from Montreal and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-18 21:39:53 - MAC1812 assaulted Chicago from Montreal and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-18 21:39:58 - MAC1812 assaulted New York from Montreal and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-18 21:40:10 - MAC1812 assaulted Mexico City from Havana and conquered it from Condestável
2015-11-18 21:40:26 - MAC1812 reinforced Bangkok with 3 troops from Dubai
2015-11-18 21:40:26 - MAC1812 ended the turn and got spoils
2015-11-18 21:40:27 - Incrementing game to round 3
2015-11-18 21:47:38 - Condestável received 2 troops for holding Oceania
2015-11-18 21:47:38 - Condestável received 3 troops for 6 regions

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Recent battle outcomes (25 battles)

    Condestável 4.8   vs   MAC1812 4.8
    3 vs 2   3 vs 1   2 vs 2   2 vs 1   1 vs 2   1 vs 1
    Luck   Kills   Losses   Luck   Kills   Losses   Luck   Kills   Losses   Luck   Kills   Losses   Luck   Kills   Losses   Luck   Kills   Losses
Assault   -54%   0   2   +34%   1   0      0   0      0   0      0   0      0   0
Defend   -13%   8   16   -1%   4   8      0   0   -42%   0   1      0   0      0   0
Total   -16%   8   18   +2%   5   8      0   0   -42%   0   1      0   0      0   0
Overall battle outcomes

    Condestável 4.8   vs   MAC1812 4.8
    3 vs 2   3 vs 1   2 vs 2   2 vs 1   1 vs 2   1 vs 1
    Luck   Kills   Losses   Luck   Kills   Losses   Luck   Kills   Losses   Luck   Kills   Losses   Luck   Kills   Losses   Luck   Kills   Losses
Assault   -54%   0   2   +34%   1   0      0   0      0   0      0   0      0   0
Defend   -9%   11   19   -1%   4   8      0   0   -42%   0   1      0   0      0   0
Total   -12%   11   21   +2%   5   8      0   0   -42%   0   1      0   0      0   0

This game is an absolute swindle. It's dishonest.

[waauw]

U mad bro?

[Condestável]

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Recent dice rolls (25 battles)

    Condestável 4.8   litos29 4.9
    Luck   Avg Roll   1's   2's   3's   4's   5's   6's   Luck   Avg Roll   1's   2's   3's   4's   5's   6's
Assault   -6%   3.34   14   7   20   9   13   8   +12%   3.81   4   3   6   8   4   7
Defend   -26%   2.84   9   9   7   6   3   3   -8%   3.30   19   11   11   10   8   15
Total   -13%   3.17   23   16   27   15   16   11   -2%   3.45   23   14   17   18   12   22
Overall dice rolls

    Condestável 4.8   litos29 4.9
    Luck   Avg Roll   1's   2's   3's   4's   5's   6's   Luck   Avg Roll   1's   2's   3's   4's   5's   6's
Assault   -4%   3.39   14   7   20   10   15   8   +6%   3.65   6   3   6   8   4   7
Defend   -18%   3.05   10   9   7   6   5   5   -2%   3.46   19   11   11   14   11   17
Total   -9%   3.27   24   16   27   16   20   13   +1%   3.52   25   14   17   22   15   24

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Recent battle outcomes (25 battles)

    Condestável 4.8   vs   litos29 4.9
    3 vs 2   3 vs 1   2 vs 2   2 vs 1   1 vs 2   1 vs 1
    Luck   Kills   Losses   Luck   Kills   Losses   Luck   Kills   Losses   Luck   Kills   Losses   Luck   Kills   Losses   Luck   Kills   Losses
Assault   -11%   6   8   -13%   8   7      0   0   -8%   1   1      0   0   -42%   0   1
Defend   -14%   7   15   -1%   4   8      0   0   -42%   0   3      0   0      0   0
Total   -13%   13   23   -7%   12   15      0   0   -28%   1   4      0   0   -42%   0   1

The retards here say it's perception and that it stabilizes, but in 4 years, this is permanent with rare exceptions.

Yesterday I compared my dice rolls with online Risk RNGenerators, as I played:

http://www.morningtoast.com/feature/risk/
http://www.phauna.org/risk/

The outcomes were absolutely different.

A swindle.

[waauw]

I found the perfect T-shirt for you:

[Streaker]

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Would you like us to point out your obvious flaws in strategy this particular game, and maybe some tips on how to increase your attack chances?
Like, he had first turn and a drop of 4, which he spread out over multiple regions. That means he could attack from 4 different regions, with superior troops. Yes, good dice for him to win all of them. Then you fail to break his bonus, and neglect to decrease his region count. Instead you attack neutrals. Next turn, he gets a drop of 10!. The fact that he can kill a couple more regions of yours is hardly surprising with that amount.

Can dice get shitty at times? Hell yes. Should you improve your strategy to improve your odds of winning despite bad dice? I'll let you think on that one.

[iAmCaffeine]

Gotta love losing over 20 troops to 6 in a Championship final game. Fucking shit cunt.

[TheGreys]

Just won a game with 40% odds on all assualt paths. Twice. OMG

[Beast Of Burson]

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Would you like us to point out your obvious flaws in strategy this particular game, and maybe some tips on how to increase your attack chances?
Like, he had first turn and a drop of 4, which he spread out over multiple regions. That means he could attack from 4 different regions, with superior troops. Yes, good dice for him to win all of them. Then you fail to break his bonus, and neglect to decrease his region count. Instead you attack neutrals. Next turn, he gets a drop of 10!. The fact that he can kill a couple more regions of yours is hardly surprising with that amount.

Can dice get shitty at times? Hell yes. Should you improve your strategy to improve your odds of winning despite bad dice? I'll let you think on that one.

Leave to a "volunteer" to stick up for this sites owner... You only have your rank and keep it because you are a volunteer.

[waauw]

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Would you like us to point out your obvious flaws in strategy this particular game, and maybe some tips on how to increase your attack chances?
Like, he had first turn and a drop of 4, which he spread out over multiple regions. That means he could attack from 4 different regions, with superior troops. Yes, good dice for him to win all of them. Then you fail to break his bonus, and neglect to decrease his region count. Instead you attack neutrals. Next turn, he gets a drop of 10!. The fact that he can kill a couple more regions of yours is hardly surprising with that amount.

Can dice get shitty at times? Hell yes. Should you improve your strategy to improve your odds of winning despite bad dice? I'll let you think on that one.

Leave to a "volunteer" to stick up for this sites owner... You only have your rank and keep it because you are a volunteer.

You just suck balls, that's all. Try and become a better player before making ludicrous statements like that. There are plenty of non-volunteers, even premiums, that obtain high ranks and the oppisite is true as well; there are plenty of low-ranking staff-members too.

[iAmCaffeine]

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Would you like us to point out your obvious flaws in strategy this particular game, and maybe some tips on how to increase your attack chances?
Like, he had first turn and a drop of 4, which he spread out over multiple regions. That means he could attack from 4 different regions, with superior troops. Yes, good dice for him to win all of them. Then you fail to break his bonus, and neglect to decrease his region count. Instead you attack neutrals. Next turn, he gets a drop of 10!. The fact that he can kill a couple more regions of yours is hardly surprising with that amount.

Can dice get shitty at times? Hell yes. Should you improve your strategy to improve your odds of winning despite bad dice? I'll let you think on that one.

Leave to a "volunteer" to stick up for this sites owner... You only have your rank and keep it because you are a volunteer.

You just suck balls, that's all. Try and become a better player before making ludicrous statements like that. There are plenty of non-volunteers, even premiums, that obtain high ranks and the oppisite is true as well; there are plenty of low-ranking staff-members too.

In fact, most top players aren't volunteers.

[TheGreys]

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Would you like us to point out your obvious flaws in strategy this particular game, and maybe some tips on how to increase your attack chances?
Like, he had first turn and a drop of 4, which he spread out over multiple regions. That means he could attack from 4 different regions, with superior troops. Yes, good dice for him to win all of them. Then you fail to break his bonus, and neglect to decrease his region count. Instead you attack neutrals. Next turn, he gets a drop of 10!. The fact that he can kill a couple more regions of yours is hardly surprising with that amount.

Can dice get shitty at times? Hell yes. Should you improve your strategy to improve your odds of winning despite bad dice? I'll let you think on that one.

Leave to a "volunteer" to stick up for this sites owner... You only have your rank and keep it because you are a volunteer.

You just suck balls, that's all. Try and become a better player before making ludicrous statements like that. There are plenty of non-volunteers, even premiums, that obtain high ranks and the oppisite is true as well; there are plenty of low-ranking staff-members too.

In fact, most top players aren't volunteers.

Not to mention we all started with no rank and there is good non premium players.

[Extreme Ways]

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Would you like us to point out your obvious flaws in strategy this particular game, and maybe some tips on how to increase your attack chances?
Like, he had first turn and a drop of 4, which he spread out over multiple regions. That means he could attack from 4 different regions, with superior troops. Yes, good dice for him to win all of them. Then you fail to break his bonus, and neglect to decrease his region count. Instead you attack neutrals. Next turn, he gets a drop of 10!. The fact that he can kill a couple more regions of yours is hardly surprising with that amount.

Can dice get shitty at times? Hell yes. Should you improve your strategy to improve your odds of winning despite bad dice? I'll let you think on that one.

Leave to a "volunteer" to stick up for this sites owner... You only have your rank and keep it because you are a volunteer.

Why so salty.

[Condestável]

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Would you like us to point out your obvious flaws in strategy this particular game, and maybe some tips on how to increase your attack chances?
Like, he had first turn and a drop of 4, which he spread out over multiple regions. That means he could attack from 4 different regions, with superior troops. Yes, good dice for him to win all of them. Then you fail to break his bonus, and neglect to decrease his region count. Instead you attack neutrals. Next turn, he gets a drop of 10!. The fact that he can kill a couple more regions of yours is hardly surprising with that amount.

Can dice get shitty at times? Hell yes. Should you improve your strategy to improve your odds of winning despite bad dice? I'll let you think on that one.

I had no place left to attack him! After his incredible dice I had no point of contact left. Nothing! He got North America in Round 1, South America in Round 2 and Africa in Round 3. I did't even get to play the 4th Round.

I've been playing since 2011 and all I get against Premium members or high rated members is what I got moments ago, 5 units lost and couldn't defeat 1. Next round, 10 units lost defeating 2.

Almost everytime I play against premiums, the dice are absolute landslides. In the game before this, for 4 rounds I lost 5 trying to defeat 1.

And for those who say that we only remember the losses, I can give you the exact game numbers in the last months when my rolls could rival with Premium opponents',
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=16085782
https://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=16136042
Because the other 95% games, the difference is constantly outrageuos. It's so funny how they may get so furious at the game with dice that I usually get.

About strategy. I've been witnessing a lot of the "strategy" these high ranks have. You know what's their strategy? taking down 15 with 7. Why? because they are used to get awesome results. Want me to give you examples? All the Antarctic games I've played, I'll aways aim for big rated players, you know what's their strategy? attack everything with anything. And they get way with it. Every game their regions multiply 6, 8 12... and mine just increase by 1 because I lose 4 in a 6x2 battle. Which games? ALL but one I played long ago in 2012. Oh and the Age of Realms maps, it's ridiculous. The high rated just start these tens of games and you try to to fight them but you advance 1 per round and they just multiply.

Challenge me to get the games I'm referring to and I'll retrieve most of them. I have a very good memory. You ask me why I still play? Well, I did quit and returned but I'll soon be fed of it again. It's no fun at all.

[TheGreys]

There are volunteers that will help improve your game if you are nice to them lol and are willing to take advice. In the Training Grounds

[Condestável]

I invite you to play a game with me and tell if I need advice,

[Symmetry]

The dice rolls are not truly random. This is a simple fact that any mathematician will be happy to confirm for you.

Last time I checked, the rolls were drawn from random.org, which generated numbers from atmospheric data, or something like that. The mods refuse to accept the judgements of the cat I've been keeping in a box for so long now that it's untrue.

Or true, possibly. I'd have to open the box.

[Extreme Ways]

I invite you to play a game with me and tell if I need advice,

You do.

[degaston]

The dice rolls are not truly random. This is a simple fact that any mathematician will be happy to confirm for you.

Last time I checked, the rolls were drawn from random.org, which generated numbers from atmospheric data, or something like that. The mods refuse to accept the judgements of the cat I've been keeping in a box for so long now that it's untrue.

Or true, possibly. I'd have to open the box.

I guess it's been a while since you checked. They stopped using random.org long ago. Now (or at least the last I heard) they're re-using one 50,000 roll data file over and over.

[Condestável]

I invite you to play a game with me and tell if I need advice,

You do.

I've won 47% of games.

You have won 42%.

What type of advice can you present me?

[owenshooter]

I invite you to play a game with me and tell if I need advice,

You do.

I've won 47% of games.

You have won 42%.

What type of advice can you present me?

um... scoreboard? 2866 > 1312... much, much greater... i hate when people say shit about percentages, etc... hell, i have a 56% win ratio, means nothing to people that don't play team games... you have to take into account a lot of factors before you straight up try to compare your stats against another players stats... you kind of come off looking like a dolt with the statement you made... you should have taken him up on his offer, it might have gotten you out of the rank doldrums...-Jésus noir