Symbols, images and flags

[ConfederateSS]

for those arguing that the Japanese bombings were justified, didn't Japan try to surrender beforehand? Yeah, they totally deserved to be nuked. -----------------------------I hardly think you'd be saying that if the situation was reversed.----------------------------

---- ...If Germany or Japan had the A-bomb first. They would have used it against us.. I know,because they were so kind to the people after the gave themselves up.Or were rounded up. In Europe and Asia. So there was no moral or humanity choice made by Truman. He did the right thing...ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

-------I know the TRUTH sucks doesn't it........ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[iAmCaffeine]

Thank you for reinforcing my point of why I have no reason give any weight to the things you say.

[owenshooter]

---- ...If Germany or Japan had the A-bomb first. They would have used it against us.. I know,because they were so kind to the people after the gave themselves up.Or were rounded up. In Europe and Asia. So there was no moral or humanity choice made by Truman. He did the right thing...ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

wait.. you do know they tried to surrender, right? and you do know the only reason we dropped the bomb was to show the russians what was up, right? japan was sacrificed for a power play by the US against the Soviet Block... sigh...-Jésus noir

[iAmCaffeine]

---- ...If Germany or Japan had the A-bomb first. They would have used it against us.. I know,because they were so kind to the people after the gave themselves up.Or were rounded up. In Europe and Asia. So there was no moral or humanity choice made by Truman. He did the right thing...ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

wait.. you do know they tried to surrender, right? and you do know the only reason we dropped the bomb was to show the russians what was up, right? japan was sacrificed for a power play by the US against the Soviet Block... sigh...-Jésus noir

I already told him this. It's hard having a conversation a delusional racist.

[ConfederateSS]

-----No,you said,what if the shoe was on the other foot.......The British did surrender to the Japanese at Singapore. Look how nice the were treated. The Americans did surrender on The Philippines ,again their Japanese hosts were awesome.....Eastern Europeans and Jews in the West...were treated so nice by the Germans after they gave up/or were taken.......What if it was the other way around? What if Fascist or Imperial States had the A-Bomb first?...There is no speculation,what they would have done. we know,what they would have done. Based on their World War II actions. There wouldn't be any of us left to cry about an atrocity. Lucky for Japan,The US is a merciful Nation. I doubt we would have dropped a third a-bomb..(Or blew Tokyo off the map with the first one,if we were so evil.We chose lesser targets.)... Tokyo Harbor was full of Allied ships ready to invade on Sept. 2nd ,1945...If The Japanese Empire had second thoughts... So, your point was a useless one,Mr. British Blend...There were Japanese fighting on islands in the Pacific..Some 10,20,30 years after the war.They were brought up to fight to the last man..BLAH!BLAH!BLAH!!!!!!!!! ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

[iAmCaffeine]

Lucky for Japan,The US is a merciful Nation.

I was about to say something about this, but then you did so yourself in your own post, quoted below. Thanks.

BLAH!BLAH!BLAH!!!!!!!!!

[ConfederateSS]

-----The average American G.I...fighting the Japanese...during the war...had feelings,"THANK GOD for THE BOMB,...IT'S OVER"....As for Truman..he looked to put a close to the most Horrific War/event in Human history. With an Exclamation Point,so to never have to go through such an event again. ..MacArthur dislike the bombings...The two would clash later...In Korea MacArthur,wanted to smash the Chinese with an A-Bomb blow once and for all...This time it was Truman,who saw the power of such force was not warranted. This was not a war of destruction. But one of Politics...Once again he showed his wisdom..Of removing that primadonna(not unlike Custer),from power..Although..I would not have fired him. I would have sent MacArthur to an obscure outpost, causing his own resignation...If FDR was pres..I think he would of flattened TOKYO,without blinking an eye..leaving millions dead and suffering....ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion).....

[notyou2]

Interesting that you chose to put the USAAF symbol along side the Nazi swastika as if there is some moral equivalence. There is not.

I would argue that could be a matter of perspective. Take Japan. They did not suffer genocide at the hands of the Nazis. They did suffer horrible casualties when the USAAF dropped nuclear bombs on their major cities. We don't have awful memories of those bombings because we didn't experience it, and it helped us win the war. They remember it much more negatively, for obvious reasons.

The world doesn't revolve around American sensibilities. Remember that next time you're arguing about which symbols should be banned or allowed.

Bollocks.

We can agree to disagree. There is no moral equivalency between the two. In case you forgot, the Japanese ATTACKED us and declared war on us. Their casualties were a result of their own actions. The Jews did not declare war on the Nazi's.
I suspect that most Japanese know why we resorted to dropping the bombs. Their leadership left us no choice. Better that then trying to kill every last one of them...

Why did they attack you and declare war on you?

I wonder if it had anything to do with US trade embargoes? Perhaps your president wanted a war with them? Perhaps the history you are taught is incomplete, or silent on specific mitigating factors.

[owenshooter]

Interesting that you chose to put the USAAF symbol along side the Nazi swastika as if there is some moral equivalence. There is not.

I would argue that could be a matter of perspective. Take Japan. They did not suffer genocide at the hands of the Nazis. They did suffer horrible casualties when the USAAF dropped nuclear bombs on their major cities. We don't have awful memories of those bombings because we didn't experience it, and it helped us win the war. They remember it much more negatively, for obvious reasons.

The world doesn't revolve around American sensibilities. Remember that next time you're arguing about which symbols should be banned or allowed.

Bollocks.

We can agree to disagree. There is no moral equivalency between the two. In case you forgot,the Japanese ATTACKED us and declared war on us. Their casualties were a result of their own actions. The Jews did not declare war on the Nazi's.
I suspect that most Japanese know why we resorted to dropping the bombs. Their leadership left us no choice.Better that then trying to kill every last one of them...

Why did they attack you and declare war on you?

I wonder if it had anything to do with US trade embargoes? Perhaps your president wanted a war with them? Perhaps the history you are taught is incomplete, or silent on specific mitigating factors.

ummmm... this is what head in the sand americans tell themselves at the end of the day to feel good about themselves.. again, the japanese were trying to surrender and the americans would not accept... why? they wanted to drop the bomb to show the russians that we had what they had not been capable of making. they wanted a show of force to the eastern block, for obvious reasons. japan was sacrificed so america could flex it's nuke power to the russians... period... america did have a choice, they chose to kill millions of people by dropping a few nukes, so the russians knew what was up... and let's not get into the japanese internment camps, another fact most americans choose to ignore... the black jesus is disgusted...-Jésus noir

p.s.-blacks, indians, japanese, the US has a glowing record...

[ConfederateSS]

-----World War II Started with the Japanese and Ended with the Japanese...NO, I'm not talking about Pearl Harbor.......Most HISTORY(White/West) BOOKS will say ,Hitler/Germany started World War II...The War Started before Hitler took Power....JAPAN started World War II when they invaded Manchuria in 1931...YES JAPAN PEOPLE....Then Italy would follow by,invading Ethiopia(Abyssinia) in 1935 again war under way...NOT GERMANY....So by all accounts, Japan started it,and karma bit them in the ass in the end...plain and simple...ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...I know...Manchuria/Ethiopia got left out...they're not important enough..Just Asians and Africans...Not White Europe....So the start of world war 2 is only given. When a white country is attacked.. Poland 1939...

[Serbia]

-----World War II Started with the Japanese and Ended with the Japanese...NO, I'm not talking about Pearl Harbor.......Most HISTORY(White/West) BOOKS will say ,Hitler/Germany started World War II...The War Started before Hitler took Power....JAPAN started World War II when they invaded Manchuria in 1931...YES JAPAN PEOPLE....Then Italy would follow by,invading Ethiopia(Abyssinia) in 1935 again war under way...NOT GERMANY....So by all accounts, Japan started it,and karma bit them in the ass in the end...plain and simple...ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...I know...Manchuria/Ethiopia got left out...they're not important enough..Just Asians and Africans...Not White Europe....So the start of world war 2 is only given. When a white country is attacked.. Poland 1939...

There was a conflict started when Japan invaded Manchuria, but it wasn't a world wide war. That's the point of calling something a "World War". Same goes for Italy invading Ethiopia. Germany annexed Austria before invading Poland, but that didn't result in a world war either. Germany continued to push things, and only after that did war spread. You can't blame the European or African theaters of the war on Japan, no matter how hard you try.

Bollocks.

[ConfederateSS]

------I guess you have never HEARD OF A THING CALLED THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS.founded by US Pres. W.Wilson,but the US Gov. wouldn't let us join.. ....JAPAN INVADED MANCHURIA in 1931...KNOWING WHAT THEY WERE DOING....When the League finally got around to standing up to JAPAN......JAPAN...STUNS THE WORLD...DEFYING .."WORLD OPINION"....WITHDRAWS FROM THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS....Feb.24th,1933.......ANYTHING ELSE...The White West ,would like to record in the FAKE told History Books.....ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion).....JAPAN started war aggression in 1931 and were rewarded with an A-Bomb up their ass in 1945 for their efforts...CASE CLOSED...But countries Today around the world still haven't learned Japan's lesson. They are about to receive the same fate..If they don't cease their actions..

[notyou2]

The best symbols.....[url].http://www.sabian.com/en/home[/url]

[riskllama]

nah, zildjian are the best.

[Metsfanmax]

nah, zildjian are the best.

They really are. It makes me so mad that Neil Peart uses Sabian. Has he not even heard the sound Carter Beauford makes?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Haha just read through this. Confederates seems to think that America was actually important in WWII. Good one.

[ConfederateSS]

Haha just read through this. Confederates seems to think that America was actually important in WWII. Good one.

----No,just that Japan started War actions...not Germany(who gets the blame,because Hitler and his actions. Are more widely known than TOJO's)... I don't see were a Britt has any opinion anyway. 1)Your just jealous. We said F-Off to your empire. Started it's decline. 2)You would be speaking German if it wasn't for us saving you all the time. 3) The Historical Fact is. America was the only Super Power around at the time. Able to fight and stay free from war actions. That would destroy our ability to wage war..."ARSENAL OF DEMOCRACY"..TO QUOTE FDR..."A SLEEPING GIANT"..TO QUOTE YAMAMOTO...4)We are just lucky Japan didn't do what Stalin was afraid of. Invade Russia from the EAST. Instead of attacking Pearl Harbor. Also,that Hitler declared War on us. Making it so much easier for FDR. On the European part of the War. ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... Truman put an End to the most horrific event in Human History. With an Exclamation Point......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!