[CC5] FALL vs LHDD [31-30] FINAL 9/04

[General_Tao]

Montreal's falling into place, not a huge advantage but we should take it barring wild dice, so it's going to come down to eurasia, bamboo jack and austerlitz, we'll need all three.

[betiko]

Montreal's falling into place, not a huge advantage but we should take it barring wild dice, so it's going to come down to eurasia, bamboo jack and austerlitz, we'll need all three.

Looks as tied as it can be to me, and if they get the same type of dice they ve had not too long ago on that map, the game could be theirs..

[General_Tao]

we drop 1-2 more, and position-wise, better, advantage LHDD.

[betiko]

This is looking each day more like a 31-30 for either clan....

Keefie can we let outsiders comment in here again please? Mostly tofu members that will face the winner. I m interested in seeing their outsider's game forecast.

[Keefie]

This is looking each day more like a 31-30 for either clan....

Keefie can we let outsiders comment in here again please? Mostly tofu members that will face the winner. I m interested in seeing their outsider's game forecast.

OK, as long as the comments are related to the war.

[rockfist]

It's down to Austerlitz and Eurasia. I don't think any other games will be flipped. It's so hard to tell because they are so close, but it looks like LHDD leads Austerlitz and trails in Eurasia, but slightly in both cases. Austerlitz should be determined much quicker. There is a small chance Montreal could be flipped.

I think it's likely we will be waiting on the outcome of Eurasia. Again, people actively in that game would know more about the positioning and about stacks...I'm just going on territory count and the fact that no one has received a bonus yet.

[betiko]

It's down to Austerlitz and Eurasia. I don't think any other games will be flipped. It's so hard to tell because they are so close, but it looks like LHDD leads Austerlitz and trails in Eurasia, but slightly in both cases. Austerlitz should be determined much quicker. There is a small chance Montreal could be flipped.

I think it's likely we will be waiting on the outcome of Eurasia. Again, people actively in that game would know more about the positioning and about stacks...I'm just going on territory count and the fact that no one has received a bonus yet.

Unfortunately there is a big chance montreal can be flipped, seems like dice hate us there.

[nolefan5311]

Bamboo will officially be LHDD's. Two Fallen players with 2 pair at crucial turns, and a LHDD 3 card set at another crucial turn...nothing we could do about that. Very frustrating.

[Doc_Brown]

Maybe I'm missing something, but Montreal looks very even. Same number of territories for each side, with LHDD deploying 1 extra troop. In fact, I have Austerlitz rated as a stronger LHDD lean than Montreal. Of course, I really don't know the Montreal map, and those in the game can see the situation better.

[rockfist]

There are certain positions in Montreal that are very hard to deal with once an opponent has them. I'm assuming based on conversations in this thread as well as troop and bonus deploy in the game that LHDD has Ile Bizard, which is a plus one bonus that allows you to be very offensive and not Downtown, which typically requires a more measured (or defensive) approach. If they have Ile Bizard and an extra drop for territories they have an advantage. If they have Downtown and territories it's more even IMO.

[ptlowe]

LHDD has Downtown. We have lle bizard.

[-1-1-3-]

Bizarre, bizarre.

{assembly stands up and thx -1-1-3- for her wise comment.}

[betiko]

There are certain positions in Montreal that are very hard to deal with once an opponent has them. I'm assuming based on conversations in this thread as well as troop and bonus deploy in the game that LHDD has Ile Bizard, which is a plus one bonus that allows you to be very offensive and not Downtown, which typically requires a more measured (or defensive) approach. If they have Ile Bizard and an extra drop for territories they have an advantage. If they have Downtown and territories it's more even IMO.

Basically they did a 11v9v2v2v3 to eliminate one of our guys losing just 5 troops to kill 16, pretty ridiculous. They have the offensive with none of their guys in direct danger and we keep on dicefailing.

[IcePack]

Both poisons look more and more like wins for FALL.

[betiko]

Both poisons look more and more like wins for FALL.

Yup. So 28-24 right now for us, but unfortunately things don t look that good... We technically need only 3/9, but there is only austerlitz, eurasia, montreal and labyrinth where we have more or less a chance, the other 5 are irreversibly fallen.

[rockfist]

I think everyone had both PRs as wins for Fallen.

[IcePack]

I think everyone had both PRs as wins for Fallen.

It was premature to say poison quads was anything more than slight advantage until recently. Trips has been ours for awhile.

[-1-1-3-]

No problem Fallen, drink/take all the Poison you wish I'm sure that's good for us ^^

[and for the ethno-cultural-nationalist war ongoing :] We'll have wine.

[-1-1-3-]

No problem Fallen, drink/take all the Poison you wish I'm sure that's good for us ^^

[and for the ethno-cultural-nationalist war ongoing :] We'll have wine.

Wine... but only after our turns... please. [this comment is mainly adressed to djelebert... but well... he's not in any important game now if i'm not wrong.]

[arno30]

No problem Fallen, drink/take all the Poison you wish I'm sure that's good for us ^^

[and for the ethno-cultural-nationalist war ongoing :] We'll have wine.

Wine... but only after our turns... please. [this comment is mainly adressed to djelebert... but well... he's not in any important game now if i'm not wrong.]

and to donche. in eurasia

[aad0906]

First Nations Americas is now over and as expected went to FALL

[donche64]

No problem Fallen, drink/take all the Poison you wish I'm sure that's good for us ^^

[and for the ethno-cultural-nationalist war ongoing :] We'll have wine.

Wine... but only after our turns... please. [this comment is mainly adressed to djelebert... but well... he's not in any important game now if i'm not wrong.]

and to donche. in eurasia

Ahahah, because of my lifestyle, I was closed to being transferred to FOED. But I've promised Quik and Momo (and to myself) to stop drinking before 10 (AM) so that I can take my turns sober! Watch out FALL Labyrinth's team!!!

[IcePack]

No problem Fallen, drink/take all the Poison you wish I'm sure that's good for us ^^

[and for the ethno-cultural-nationalist war ongoing :] We'll have wine.

Wine... but only after our turns... please. [this comment is mainly adressed to djelebert... but well... he's not in any important game now if i'm not wrong.]

and to donche. in eurasia

Ahahah, because of my lifestyle, I was closed to being transferred to FOED. But I've promised Quik and Momo (and to myself) to stop drinking before 10 (AM) so that I can take my turns sober! Watch out FALL Labyrinth's team!!!

We are watching

[IcePack]

Official score is 26-28 right now.
Looks like 29-28 once a few games stop dragging.

Eurasia
Austerlitz
Montreal
Labyrinth

Are the games still in play

[Doc_Brown]

Official score is 26-28 right now.
Looks like 29-28 once a few games stop dragging.

Eurasia
Austerlitz
Montreal
Labyrinth

Are the games still in play

This is the way I see it right now:
Game 15817505 Austerlitz - s3 - slight adv LHDD
Game 15819917 Eurasia - s3 - even
Game 15779650 Montreal - s2 - slight adv FALL
Game 15816246 Labyrinth - s3 - slight adv FALL

FALL needs 2 of the 4 open games. LHDD needs 3 of them. A missed turn in Austerlitz could come back to haunt you!