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Re: Matrix 6 NEW GAME Day One

Postby dakky21 on Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:59 pm

Marashu wrote:@dakky - I can get the FoS on NoS. Do you think that dazza is still more likely scum than NoS?


It's D1... I think I misunderstood dazza and his joke vote, but anyway, wanting to get rid of me so quick for a that reason is scummy.
NoS is giving last game as an example where I was "scum with similar jumpiness in play"... yes, there I was mafia... but you have to learn from mistakes... would I act again like that if I was mafia? No.

I think NoS is more scummy than dazza at this point, but then again, that post by dazza seemed serious.
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Re: Matrix 6 NEW GAME Day One

Postby Marashu on Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:07 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:sUPER dUPER Grand OOficial vote Count

Hotshot
Mars
NoSurvivors- Mets
madmitch
Metsfanmax-Nos
Virus
Epitaph1
Dazza- Epitaph, Dakky
Dakky- Hotshot

Not voting Mars, Madmitch, Virus, Dazza

Deadline will be week from today.

I just wanted to point out, I think NoS unvoted and then voted Dakky, and I don't think Dazza removed his joke vote from Dakky.
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Re: Matrix 6 NEW GAME Day One

Postby HotShot53 on Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:34 pm

dakky21 wrote:
Marashu wrote:@dakky - I can get the FoS on NoS. Do you think that dazza is still more likely scum than NoS?


It's D1... I think I misunderstood dazza and his joke vote, but anyway, wanting to get rid of me so quick for a that reason is scummy.
NoS is giving last game as an example where I was "scum with similar jumpiness in play"... yes, there I was mafia... but you have to learn from mistakes... would I act again like that if I was mafia? No.

I think NoS is more scummy than dazza at this point, but then again, that post by dazza seemed serious.


As dazza already said:

dazza2008 wrote:It was clearly a joke :roll:

You hate day 1 so I said let's put him out his misery. I can't tell if your reaction was scummy though or you just don't have a sense of humour.


He was not serious, he was joking, as everyone other than you understood.
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Re: Matrix 6 NEW GAME Day One

Postby dakky21 on Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:10 pm

And I will repeat, I hate D1. Because I am active, I must be always on the forums, I must be mafia. That is how it goes around here. Then I get votes from inactive players and I'm dead. Good luck with that approach...
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Re: Matrix 6 NEW GAME Day One

Postby dakky21 on Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:42 pm

BTW I am on the trip tomorrow (IRL lol) and I think I will be able to check game on Saturday.
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Re: Matrix 6 NEW GAME Day One

Postby madmitch on Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:56 pm

you seem a bit jumpy Dakky? pressure getting to you? you said you must be mafia okay I will take your word VOTE DAKKY
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Re: Matrix 6 NEW GAME Day One

Postby HotShot53 on Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:09 pm

unvote dakky, vote madmitch That vote put him at L-1.... were you trying to lynch him? I agree he was a bit jumpy, but lynching him during the day he's gone isn't right
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Re: Matrix 6 NEW GAME Day One

Postby Marashu on Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:11 pm

madmitch wrote:you seem a bit jumpy Dakky? pressure getting to you? you said you must be mafia okay I will take your word VOTE DAKKY

Vote: MadMitch - there's the fast jumping I was looking for.
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Re: Matrix 6 NEW GAME Day One

Postby Marashu on Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:11 pm

fp'd by HotShot
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Re: Matrix 6 NEW GAME Day One

Postby NoSurvivors on Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:31 pm

Without a VC until just recently I hadnt counted up the votes... obviously I dont want to put someone at L-2 just because of jumpiness, it was a vote to see if dakky would squirm and to see if someone would jump the gun. God for a bunch of people wanting someone to do some actual hunting you guys sure do seem up in arms when someone tries to make a case :lol:.

Also, Madmitch what the hell was that?? Pretty telling vote there. Also, why isn't my vote counting towards dakky?
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Re: Matrix 6 NEW GAME Day One

Postby NoSurvivors on Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:32 pm

dakky21 wrote:And I will repeat, I hate D1. Because I am active, I must be always on the forums, I must be mafia. That is how it goes around here. Then I get votes from inactive players and I'm dead. Good luck with that approach...


I made an entire case against you. None of which had to do with you being active or inactive. Going to reply to me or just call me scum?
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Re: Matrix 6 NEW GAME Day One

Postby madmitch on Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:17 pm

so are you going to wait until sat then vote for him again Hotshot?
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Re: Matrix 6 NEW GAME Day One

Postby HotShot53 on Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:49 pm

madmitch wrote:so are you going to wait until sat then vote for him again Hotshot?


Idk, depends which of you look more scummy by that point (or if someone else emerges as scummy)
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Re: Matrix 6 NEW GAME Day One

Postby Iron Butterfly on Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:04 pm

making revised vote count...lol craps not as easy as it looks.
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Re: Matrix 6 NEW GAME Day One

Postby Iron Butterfly on Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:20 pm

New and Improbed Vote cOUnt

Daza= Epitaph, Dakky
Dakky=Dazza, NoS, MadMitch
Nos=Mets
MadMitch= Hotshot, Marushu

Guys please make votes in red. Please put unvote if you unvote to vote someone else. It makes it easier for me.

deadline next Wednesday

I am pretty sure VC is now correct.
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Re: Matrix 6 NEW GAME Day One

Postby Epitaph1 on Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:40 am

madmitch wrote:you seem a bit jumpy Dakky? pressure getting to you? you said you must be mafia okay I will take your word VOTE DAKKY


Well folks, it looks like our first scum has revealed himself. That looks like an attempted scum hammer.

unvote Vote mitch

Starting to lean town on dakky. I can relate to the frustration of getting heat just b/c you're talking on D1. Bunch of crap, but someone has to stir the pot to get the game going.
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Re: Matrix 6 NEW GAME Day One

Postby Metsfanmax on Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:35 am

Marashu wrote:
madmitch wrote:why do you think he is scum? maybe you are and just trying to hide your true self

A lucid post from madmitch? I don't know what happened, but I like it. Not enough to give you a pass D1, though.


Not to burst your bubble or anything, but if "maybe you're really mafia and trying to hide that fact" counts as a lucid mafia thought, then we have a long way to go before madmitch contributes something useful.

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madmitch wrote:you seem a bit jumpy Dakky? pressure getting to you? you said you must be mafia okay I will take your word VOTE DAKKY


Well folks, it looks like our first scum has revealed himself. That looks like an attempted scum hammer.

unvote Vote mitch


No, that doesn't look like an attempted scum hammer. However, this does look like attempted bandwagoning.

unvote, vote Epi

dakky wrote:And I will repeat, I hate D1. Because I am active, I must be always on the forums, I must be mafia. That is how it goes around here. Then I get votes from inactive players and I'm dead. Good luck with that approach...


You're not helping your own case here. Complaining about this fact makes you look more like mafia, not less.

HotShot53 wrote:unvote dakky, vote madmitch That vote put him at L-1.... were you trying to lynch him? I agree he was a bit jumpy, but lynching him during the day he's gone isn't right


Do you even read madmitch's posts? What are the chances that he really had any clue what he was doing?
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Re: Matrix 6 NEW GAME Day One

Postby Marashu on Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:45 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:Not to burst your bubble or anything, but if "maybe you're really mafia and trying to hide that fact" counts as a lucid mafia thought, then we have a long way to go before madmitch contributes something useful.

By now, I've gotten so used to madmitch contributing only flavour, that even this is a step in the right direction.

Do you even read madmitch's posts? What are the chances that he really had any clue what he was doing?

Trying to make a meta read on mitch (yes, I know. Yes. Yes. I know. But hear me out.) When town, mitch doesn't usually look at vote count. He will find something (usually superficially) scummy and use that for his vote. When scum, he has blatantly fasthammered, so he has kept track of votes. Now, I know people's plays change over time and each game is different. This is just what I'm using as a base. I can see a case for his defense where he was using IB's vote count which was missing some votes, or that he simply wasn't paying attention to votes. But even for mitch, that seemed like a fast vote. Could be bandwagoning, yes, but when HS moved his vote to mitch, mitch's only concern was getting the vote back on to dakky, which I feel falls more into the category of trying to fast lynch.

Unvote for now. I want to hear what mitch has to say, specifically about the fast voting (though commenting about his exchange with HS would be welcome). Depending what he says, I'm putting my vote back on him and will be pushing for a claim from him.
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Re: Matrix 6 NEW GAME Day One

Postby NoSurvivors on Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:40 pm

Mets I actually tend to agree with the mitch wagon and mars' reasoning. I remember people talking about said game. I am a firm believer in using new players' past games as how they will be have or are likely to behave, because more experienced players know how to keep a consistent poker face mafia or town, whereas newer players dont. That is why I am being so critical of dakky's play in particular. It could be nothing, but it could be something. My scum reads are dakky and mitch, mitch's post felt like an attempt to quickhammer when I read it. I am contemplating switching my vote but I think it's good where it is for now. I will watch and try to get a better feel after I re-read posts they both have made.
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Re: Matrix 6 NEW GAME Day One

Postby madmitch on Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:33 pm

Sorry I was not trying to quick hammer,it just Dakky was on everones case and I know he was just trying to apply pressure but when it was done to him oh now he is gone for a few days and Hotshot is sticking up for him. that,s not scummy at all!!! As to my playiny style thanks for being patient it is taking me a while to learn to play proberly
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Re: Matrix 6 NEW GAME Day One

Postby dakky21 on Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:06 am

Greetings from Serbia! I will try to re-read the thread later and contribute with something.
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Re: Matrix 6 NEW GAME Day One

Postby madmitch on Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:31 pm

wheres is everyone? it is lonely here
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Re: Matrix 6 NEW GAME Day One

Postby dakky21 on Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:03 pm

No time today either. I'm home Sunday night.
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Re: Matrix 6 NEW GAME Day One

Postby HotShot53 on Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:02 pm

madmitch wrote:wheres is everyone? it is lonely here


I'm here! not really sure what to say though... I'm not very good at day 1 lol
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Re: Matrix 6 NEW GAME Day One

Postby Marashu on Sat Jun 27, 2015 12:06 am

madmitch wrote:Sorry I was not trying to quick hammer,it just Dakky was on everones case and I know he was just trying to apply pressure but when it was done to him oh now he is gone for a few days and Hotshot is sticking up for him. that,s not scummy at all!!! As to my playiny style thanks for being patient it is taking me a while to learn to play proberly

Dakky wasn't on everyone's case. He was pushing on dazza. And it sounds like he really is gone (though he's checking in, so he's at least aware of what's going on) and gave a time when he'll be back. My take away from this, though (bolding the part I get this from) is that you were trying to apply pressure? When he's already at L-2? I'm having a hard time buying it. You've seen it done often enough to be willing to wait for a claim - if you were trying to apply pressure, you would have been calling for that. On a related note:

Vote Madmitch - I would like a claim from you.

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madmitch wrote:wheres is everyone? it is lonely here


I'm here! not really sure what to say though... I'm not very good at day 1 lol


Well, here's a few things you can talk about. You could talk more about mitch and how you feel about his defense. Or you can start trying to get other people to talk. If mitch flips scum, I'm expecting that his partner was on the dakky wagon - actually, now that I think about it, if he flips scum, there's a very good chance that you're scum too, considering the way he asked about if you were putting the vote back on dakky.

I would like to hear more from some of the quieter players, like virus, epi, and dazza.
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