NoS's Matrix6 Mafia GAME OVER, SCUM WIN!

[NoSurvivors]

Vote Count:

Potter (2): Storr, End
Mars (1): Vio
Vio (1): Mars
End (3): HS, Streaker, Potter (L-2)

With 9 alive it takes 5 votes to lynch. Deadline is now TUESDAY JUNE 2ND, 2015 AT 9PM EST

EBWOP I seem to be bad with these. This is fully updated and has 100% good info. Sorry for the noobie modding .

[Iron Butterfly]

vote violet

[Streaker]

What's up with Storr voting potter? He didn't post a lot yet, but his last one was actually very good with a couple decent reads in it. I have Potter leaning town right now. What do you see, storr?

I also really dislike Ends vote on Potter:

A Vote doesnt add much pressure to someone who wont post till later anyway.

End, What is your opinion on Potter?

He is my number 1 lynch candidate.
I was hoping to get more from Vi but thats not going to happen until she is ready i suppose.
Same is true of everyone at this point so i may as well quit with the pressure and just vote for who i want to lynch.
UNVOTE
VOTE POTTER
I felt a little connection with potter/mars that came off scummy plus IB making a case on potter and potter ignoring it makes him my best guess for scum.

When called out on an opinion, he simply states number 1 lynch? But his vote wasn't even there, he does that IN the same post. I also don't see the 'case' by IB on potter, nor potter's ignoring it. Feels like he is going after a 'new' player to save his own skin.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Dont really have much to add to what Streaker just said.

I still dont get how IB making a single read about Potter, is any different to Potter making a buddying up comment. Neither really added much.

[Streaker]

vote violet

You just said you'd await Violet's response before voting? What made you change your mind?

[Streaker]

MOD, what happens with no majority at deadline? It's not stated in the rules (no lynch, most votes, in case of tie etc.

Thx

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

vote violet

You just said you'd await Violet's response before voting? What made you change your mind?

For some unknown reason he thought Vi was at L-1. Vote was placed after NoS's recount confirmed this not to be true.

[Iron Butterfly]

vote violet

You just said you'd await Violet's response before voting? What made you change your mind?

For some unknown reason he thought Vi was at L-1. Vote was placed after NoS's recount confirmed this not to be true.

yes vote count said 1 vote on her which is why I voted her....LOLI am also beginning to think violet may in fact be town...

[Streaker]

What made you change your mind about vi being town, now all of a sudden?

[NoSurvivors]

MOD, what happens with no majority at deadline? It's not stated in the rules (no lynch, most votes, in case of tie etc.

Thx

No Lynch happens. You can vote no lynch as well if you so desire. Hope this helps.

[Streaker]

Endgame clearly scummiest person today.
His lates vote switch went from Vi (2 votes), to Potter. The only one besides himself to maybe get lynched. That brought potter on L-2, as well. Really feels like he is trying to save his own ass by going wherever needed.

Being so stubborn about deadline extension doesn't feel right (this additional discussion is great, no?). Vi realllllyy needs to post more, as does Potter. But potter's last post gives him plenty town points.

End should be the lynch today (even worst case it's a VT lynch).

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

What made you change your mind about vi being town, now all of a sudden?

His logic appears to be Vi is at L-1, I'll jump aboard, oh wait no people think Vi is town I'll jump off.

Interestingly Vi was logged in for about 20 mins just now.

What I find amusing, if NoS hadnt changed the deadline, End would have been lynched last night.

[Streaker]

What made you change your mind about vi being town, now all of a sudden?

His logic appears to be Vi is at L-1, I'll jump aboard, oh wait no people think Vi is town I'll jump off.

Interestingly Vi was logged in for about 20 mins just now.

What I find amusing, if NoS hadnt changed the deadline, End would have been lynched last night.

How would he be lynched? No majority equals no lynch. Deadline without majority is no lynch, i asked mod and he just posted it in the thread. So a bit wifom: if no extension, then no lynch.

[VioIet]

I apologize that this post is about 5 hours late. I lost track of time tonight.

meh id lynch any of you.

This seems odd and requires an FOS. I understand that he is merely expressing that he doesn't know enough about anyone and therefore does not trust anyone. But you don't want to lynch our resident gifted townie, now do you? Unless, of course, you are mafia. But mafia wouldn't make such a bold affirmation, now would they? More about this later...


I know that all of you wish for me to contribute more. I don't have much to say on many of the arguments being presented. Everyone seems like town to me. Storr maybe seems the least like town, but honestly, my argument on him is too weak to really mention at this point. Only an FOS right now, and a possible return to this line of thought on Day 2, if I live that long.

The main thing that comes to my mind is discussing the possible setup of the game, as I believe that hasn't entered our discussion yet.

The mod did provide a link to give us an idea of the setup of the game:

We have nine players here. We have seven townies and two mafia. Of the seven townies, one will have a special ability, while the other six will be VT's. The special ability will either be: cop, roleblocker, doctor.

I almost don't sense the purpose in claiming this game, because logically, everyone is going to say VT. Each player has a 66% chance of being a VT anyway. The mafia aren't going to admit to being mafia- they will say VT. Each VT will say VT. The gifted townie will only admit to his/her ability with good cause. There is only an 11% chance of that.

I still don't mind being the sacrificial lamb. I have two main reasons for this: It has been argued that No Lynch normally benefits mafia more than it benefits town. With about 36 hours until the deadline, and only two individuals at L-1, there doesn't seem to be a clear consensus yet. I predict a mad rush coming on Monday. To prevent the possible aggravation, I will volunteer myself if nothing better presents itself.

Once the events of the night occur, it may give more clarity to the arguments of Day 1. Town will have more to go on and mafia will have more to conceal.

If the following occurs:
Day 1: VT lynched
Night 1: VT killed
Day 2: 4 VT's remaining, gifted townie, two mafia

If a mafia member is not lynched on Day 2, then town enters a critical LYLO situation on Day 3. But hopefully our gifted resident will have a good Night 1, or a good Night 2, and provide us with just enough to capture the mafia.

Reason #2-
I did get annoyed earlier.

There were posts calling me inactive during what I felt was still the joke vote stage. I felt I had posted enough. Again, not too much and not too little, but just enough. I thought it was a non-issue. But then it was mentioned again, and I even received a prod from the moderator. I don't mind being prodded/pressure when I am truly inactive. But it just all seemed premature, as I mentioned before.

When it comes to certain duties, I tend to do just enough of what I need to do- no more, no less. I thought early on that posting once every other day was sufficient (I can understand the need to post more often when a deadline is approaching or at a critical moment of the game). But on Day 1, especially early on when everyone is joking and pulling strings out of thin air, don't expect any over eagerness from me.

I can be a stubborn individual at times, which doesn't always go over too well in Mafia.
Asking me to post over and over, will just make me not want to post at all. Once I have been put off by something, it is somewhat difficult to bring me back. I don't think I can enjoy Day 1 much at this point.
However, I don't want to be the type of player who is unhelpful to town or who ruins the game for others. Even I will admit that I have been the most unhelpful player in this game thus far. If I live until Day 2, I will try to be more helpful to the town. If I don't, that's okay. Playing mafia used to be one of my biggest passions on this site, maybe second to my clan. But I just got a really crummy start in this game. I feel that if needed, I should make room for the players who are playing well, having fun, and contributing greatly to this game.

Again, I am volunteering myself. Please refer back to my setup.

I have much respect for the mod, and I don't mean to be detrimental to his game. I apologize for this Nos. Thank you for allowing me to play.

Unvote.

Vote Violet


If all are in agreement with me being sacrificed, then follow suit. If a sudden change occurs, then don't put me at L-5. I just know that we need something to happen that will help the town test my setup idea on Day 2.

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[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

hmm maybe we do need mod rules about suicide.

Violet, End has already claimed VT, so we do not need a sacrificial lamb to avoid the power role townie/s.

If you think Storr is the least townie, why not vote for him? Voting for yourself is not helpful.

[Streaker]

UNvote yourself right now, or i'm gonna lynch you for the most scummy play up to date. A townie would NEVER EVER lynch himself in this situation. Unless you ain't a townie, ofcourse.

If we gonna lynch a VT, it's Endgame.

Now Violet, let me just destroy your entire post by saying: there isn't 1 special role in town necesarilly. 2 is also possible.

Violet, seriously, what do you even hope to achieve with lynching yourself? I mean, I KNOW there isn't a jester in this game lol

Just vote end and get this over with. You shouldn't rely on night powers to play this game.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

A townie would NEVER EVER lynch himself in this situation.

Never you say

[Streaker]

A townie would NEVER EVER lynch himself in this situation.

Never you say

Let's just replace 'would' with 'should'.

[StorrZerg]

I'm tired of this self voting bullshit
unvote
vote violet

[Streaker]

I'm tired of this self voting bullshit
unvote
vote violet

Stay focused and get your vote in on End. Read my posts.
Also

VIOLET FFS JUST ASK TO BE REPLACED ALREADY IF YOU DON'T WANT TO PLAY.
I mean really, that self vote screws over whatever group you are part of, be it mafia or town.

[StorrZerg]

I don't want to lynch end. You guys are trying to lynch him over policy.

[Streaker]

I don't want to lynch end. You guys are trying to lynch him over policy.

I could say the same with your Vi vote.
Also, it's not my policy to lynch someone not wanting extension. It's how he so hard defended his no extension claim, and his vote on Potter.

[StorrZerg]

Absolutely. Difference is violet isn't being helpful. And with wing being an idiot last game, I'm tired of this stupid trend.


End isn't playing antitown

[Streaker]

Absolutely. Difference is violet isn't being helpful. And with wing being an idiot last game, I'm tired of this stupid trend.


End isn't playing antitown

The extension was needed. I know it's a wifom'ed argument about being online at deadline, what if etc on a Sunday, but we have much higher chances of players being online on Monday and Tuesday. There was really nothing you can have against an extension. It can be considered anti-town.

Vi isn't being helpfull to the party she is in. She needs to be brought in line.
End's vote to Potter smells of desperation, something that shouldn't be if you are indeed a VT (which he claimed).
So yeah End most scummy today.

Vi should be replaced if she wants out.

[StorrZerg]

Violet is never going to be helpful.
Being against the extension isn't scummy.
Being for an extension is exactly what mafia are going to do because it's an easy thing to do and sound town about.
I don't agree that his vote is desperate. What would you have him vote at that point? Try and lead a new case when he himself saw deadline as sunday. Consolidation of votes is needed.