[OFFICIAL] C9 Mafia (2) - GAME OVER TOWN WINS

[dakky21]

@dakky you would be most likely correct in assuming we're both aligned. That alignment is town.

Role claiming before being L-1 (or L-2) is also a sign of being scum... why would you claim you're town with only one vote on you? Unless you're afraid of my accusation... you don't want to get into that position, as if it turns out you were mafia, Streaker would get lynched next and the game would be over... And... there is that thing that bothers me again... experience.... Elonpuckhog probably wouldn't put newbies who don't know how to bold text as mafia... so yours experience thing just backfired on you...

Since I'm most voted now with 2 votes (L-2), I will claim my role if I get to L-1. If you anyway lynch me, and find out I was telling the truth, then the game will be over sooner than you think, at least I hope.

[dakky21]

Confirmed.

Looks like dakky is already trying to fool town and drawing attention away from mafia to this Rodman character?

Agreed, I suppose it's a good place to hide your mafia-ass in for the early game.

Let's see what he has to say about this.

Lol Dakky, how is anything about that post making me look bad on your radar? Curious.

Also, I made only a very slight reference to you and you jump right on top of it... Awfully defensive this early.

Mtamburini is making a case you two are the most experienced players of us all in this game, and yet you accuse me I'm mafia for posting a joke vote, but you didn't vote for me. Sounds exactly like too much experience - trying to get others to bandwagon onto me and at the same time, voting for someone else to avoid doubts about your alignment.

[mtamburini]

@dakky do you even believe the words that you are typing out?

I claimed to be town so must be mafia? if you consider that my claim that I would say I'm town as mafia I puzzle you this. Would it not be better if I claimed a PR such as doctor or cop? I think my odds of surviving their would be stronger + I have a chance to put a PR and probably win the cc battle. So again dakky I ask you do you believe what you are saying or are you just afraid to trust in me. If you're town then believe in the dream we shall win this game and cruise to victory!

I ask you to try an read into the alignment of the player of which I voted for what do you think of them?

[dakky21]

mtamburini... I it's day 1 and so far, you look to me as biggest suspect. Claiming being town without being really close to lynch (and you were L-3). And you are defending yourself like you have 3 votes on your head. I just don't trust you. Such actions are (from what I've read) done when you're L-1, but you're doing it now, so that's whats confuses me.

[dakky21]

And you could claim a town protector role now, I still wouldn't trust you. Even if you claimed you have powers to stop the lynching.

[mtamburini]

mtamburini... I it's day 1 and so far, you look to me as biggest suspect. Claiming being town without being really close to lynch (and you were L-3). And you are defending yourself like you have 3 votes on your head. I just don't trust you. Such actions are (from what I've read) done when you're L-1, but you're doing it now, so that's whats confuses me.

So what you're saying is you will never change your mind on me and refuse to look at other people in this game until I am mislynched?

Take notes on how to be town by looking at my previous games. Always be chatting with people and don't wait to be "pressured" or force to L whatever to be towny and defend. So if you're never at L1 you'll never play the game is what I am understanding from you and that sir is poor town play.

I'm getting extremely frustrated with you because I can't figure out if you're just ignorant or mafia. Both are equally detrimental to town, if I wasn't so sure streaker was town and that mar is sum of look more into which one it was. The other 5 people in this game feel free to chime in and say something any time there has been lots to talk about.

Pokes head and looks for toad who hasn't explained his vote yet.

[skillfusniper33]

Posting from work so it's hard to quote so I'll just make comments

@dakky you would be most likely correct in assuming we're both aligned. That alignment is town.

@skill if you think that me asking you for streaker opinion on me is scummy than may I suggest you go read through the three games he moded and make an opinion for yourself?

I've made the assumption that streaker would know me best as I assume he read through his games while he moded.

What I like most about streaker thus far was making a joke reference about a player who we both know that didn't sign up for this game. It made me laugh and I liked what he had to say afterwards with his soft push as I too had the same conclusion but a different read which also makes me think he's town.

Fpd by my lover streaker.

Bringing in assumptions from previous games is not a good idea in these, especially since roles change between games. Does looking at a previous game prove that you can build a case, yes it does, but it doesn't mean I should trust every case that is thrown up by an established player. Everyone has the chance to make a bad read on someone.

As for making reads on players based off of past experiences with them, thats great for you. I can't be trusting a move you are making since we have no past experience together. I need to be doing it based off of the cases that are present.

@Dakky, With this few number of players, things could turn very quickly and he could be at a L-2/1 in a matter of a couple of posts, so being on defense with as much aggression that you have against mtam is expected by me at least. The thing is he hasn't claimed anything other than being town, which is expected by me, if not everyone else.

[mtamburini]

Posting from work so it's hard to quote so I'll just make comments

@dakky you would be most likely correct in assuming we're both aligned. That alignment is town.

@skill if you think that me asking you for streaker opinion on me is scummy than may I suggest you go read through the three games he moded and make an opinion for yourself?

I've made the assumption that streaker would know me best as I assume he read through his games while he moded.

What I like most about streaker thus far was making a joke reference about a player who we both know that didn't sign up for this game. It made me laugh and I liked what he had to say afterwards with his soft push as I too had the same conclusion but a different read which also makes me think he's town.

Fpd by my lover streaker.

Bringing in assumptions from previous games is not a good idea in these, especially since roles change between games. Does looking at a previous game prove that you can build a case, yes it does, but it doesn't mean I should trust every case that is thrown up by an established player. Everyone has the chance to make a bad read on someone.

As for making reads on players based off of past experiences with them, thats great for you. I can't be trusting a move you are making since we have no past experience together. I need to be doing it based off of the cases that are present.

@Dakky, With this few number of players, things could turn very quickly and he could be at a L-2/1 in a matter of a couple of posts, so being on defense with as much aggression that you have against mtam is expected by me at least. The thing is he hasn't claimed anything other than being town, which is expected by me, if not everyone else.

I kinda like you. I want to hear more. Do you have any reads on the more active players this far?

[dakky21]

@Dakky, With this few number of players, things could turn very quickly and he could be at a L-2/1 in a matter of a couple of posts, so being on defense with as much aggression that you have against mtam is expected by me at least. The thing is he hasn't claimed anything other than being town, which is expected by me, if not everyone else.

The thing is - I am L-2 and he is L-3 and he claimed town before someone asked him to do so. He keeps saying he has experience. If you're experienced, you don't claim unless you're L-1 or L-2.

That's the main concern. Other players are pretty much passive we won't get anything out of them, so I may be wrong.

[Streaker]

Ok here goes.

Dakky, a claim does NOT equal saying you are town alligned in a post. A claim involves a role. If Mtam claimed, he would have (for instance) said: I am a vannila townie.
If you were to claim for L-1 (and I don't want to put you there, because I actually have a town read on you), then you would not get far for giving us : hey my claim is that I am town.
This part is seriously bothering me.

Also, I did not accuse you of being mafia in this game, ever. Again you are being awfully defensive for the tiniest amount of pressure. I have you as a slight town read now, if you were not so overly defensive that would be a big town read.

The case on Mtamb for asking about experience: I think this is not a wrong thing to do. It's important to be able to write off certain scummy things to inexperience. These games are not easy, and it's even harder if you don't know the players in them. I can understand the perspective of making a 'lynch order', but I do not have the feeling that is Mtamb's goal here.

Now, would I really be defending Mtamb if we are both mafia? I also have a slight town read on Mtamb here.



@skillfullsniper, very good that you have to work with the present cases. So how about you respond to the case i'm making on Marashu? Same for you Dakky, what is your opinion on it?

Last thing: i'd like to see more posts (and substance in them) from toad.

[elonpuckhog]

Toad1 has been prodded.

[toad1]

I vote dakky

[Streaker]

I vote dakky

Why?

[mtamburini]

I vote dakky

I don't know what to do with you lmao

[mtamburini]

Can we get a probe on pigs too he hasn't posted since confirming.

[mtamburini]

Unvote dakky vote mar

The town circle is almost complete. Auditions for the last spot will be held shortly in the future.

[Streaker]

Unvote dakky vote mar

The town circle is almost complete. Auditions for the last spot will be held shortly in the future.

The problem is that for the last spot, there are 2 inactives. Well, toad did post but yeah...

[mtamburini]

Unvote dakky vote mar

The town circle is almost complete. Auditions for the last spot will be held shortly in the future.

The problem is that for the last spot, there are 2 inactives. Well, toad did post but yeah...

Game could be that easy where the less active people are the scum.

[Streaker]

It would be seriously unbalanced if those 2 are the mafia. But rng could make it happen.


->Toad, what do you think of my case on Marashu? Do you think I'm pressuring him for a good reason?

->Sniper, same question for you. I'm not getting a lot of feedback from anyone here on it.

->Dakky, what is your opinion on Sniper?

->Marashu, to further clarify my position on Mtamb:

I feel he is trying to get to know the 'unknown' players this game. He is buddying up with me because he feels I'm hunting scum and wants to be associated with it. Also, it's his way of starting games. This is as far as it goes for me, as I have no real other reason to trust him at this point.
Anyway, it's mostly gut feeling on D1 unless someone seriously messes up.

Speaking of which, the only 2 outstanding things to me right now is Marashu with a strange joke vote. And Dakky being so sensitive about 1 line on him. Of these 2, I consider Marashu's offense the bigger one. I tend to react as Dakky does sometimes, too.

[dakky21]

I vote dakky

Just lol. If mtam didn't unvote me, I'd be on L-1 with this vote.

->Dakky, what is your opinion on Sniper?

We are on the same track, we both concluded You or mtamb could be the mafia from that line before:

What bothers me more is that they seem to have a trust for each other (well mtam trusts streaker, not sure if it is both ways yet), which means they could abuse that trust a bit, and basically get a 3rd person in the mafia, if one of them is mafia. In a game this size that could kill town off very quickly.

Anyway....

So what you're saying is you will never change your mind on me and refuse to look at other people in this game until I am mislynched?

And you're saying all the time you know Streaker and you refuse to look at him? Too much trust can be misused just like Sniper said. Even if Streaker claims, you'd believe him, and that's no good for the game.
From this point I start to think that Streaker is scummy, exploiting your trust on him...

[Streaker]

Exploiting trust? Oh i see where this is going.

So Mtamb and Dakky are scum, playing good cop bad cop to frame me.

[dakky21]

Exploiting trust? Oh i see where this is going.

So Mtamb and Dakky are scum, playing good cop bad cop to frame me.

If we were scum, wouldn't we already voted you... don't be so catchy on every sentence I write.

[mtamburini]

@dakky my tr on streaker is based on today's activities, as tomorrow comes and if I'm still alive I will use today's activities as a base line but keep an eye out for anything said that may sway me to think otherwise.

Why can't you consider mar to be scum hopping on the wagon of you're comment that there is one between streaker and me as scum trying to get two town to turn on eachother? I think you coming out and voicing your opinion on streaker and I is kinda towny however Mars just echoed what you said and hasn't followed it up with anything new worthy of content related things.

This is why I think Mars is the best lynch this far based on all the people that have been "active"

[elonpuckhog]

Pugs will be prodded today. Toad1 did respond to the prod, sort of. I'll have another word with him.

[skillfusniper33]

This is my third game ever and so far I learned day one are joke votes. I don't have any knowledge about basketball, Rodman just came up (remember the Double Team movie?)

I'll admit, the number of game transcripts I've read is greater than the number of games I've taken part in, but from what I've seen, yeah, day 1 does seem to be joke votes or random votes, mainly to see how people react and get a feel for them.

Ugh, now that you mention it, I do remember Double Team.
Unvote: mtamburini. Vote: Dennis Rodman.

Bit late to switch your vote from an actual player to joke vote. Aren't you interested to find mafia?

Vote Marashu

Since he did this so early in the game, I don't see it as being a huge deal, and if we didn't have anything else to go off of I would pursue it more. But since Dakky and mtam have been bringing good points back and forth. This gives us more info to pull from on the 1st day. He did unvote the next day. The bigger issue I have right now with Marashu is that he is kinda MIA.

As for reads on other players, I think dakky is a little antsy here and pushing everyone to believe his case. I don't feel like he is scum, but he could easily be pushing hard because he is. I also feel like he is overreacting to a few statements and not forming his own opinions, but letting other people make them for him. As he uses most of our quotes to explain his feelings/thoughts.

Both Streaker and Mtam are giving me a town vibe, especially since I don't see them being able to pull anything off on day 1, that is also why I don't believe this statement by streaker.

Exploiting trust? Oh i see where this is going.

So Mtamb and Dakky are scum, playing good cop bad cop to frame me.

Out of the active players I feel like dakky is the scummiest. I will keep my vote on Pugs since he is completely MIA.