Greater China [Quenched] (thanks Widowmakers)

[edbeard]

1. I think you should get your army circles from this thread or at least match yours to this size, because army numbers fit perfectly in them, and it makes it look a lot better. Right now the size of yours make the map with army numbers look weird. I know it's annoying to replace all your circles (I did it on my map with more territories!) but it is worth it.

2. I think instead of 29 territories which is not divisible by 3,4,5 or 6. Add one more country. I think it is especially important here, because of the small number of countries total.

With 29, In 6 person game each player has 4 territories with 5 neutral territories. In 5 person game each player has 5 countries with 4 neutral territories. 30 is much better.

[Wisse]

It's territory disputed with India, right? So call it Disputed.

dunno

[Wisse]

1. I think you should get your army circles from this thread or at least match yours to this size, because army numbers fit perfectly in them, and it makes it look a lot better. Right now the size of yours make the map with army numbers look weird. I know it's annoying to replace all your circles (I did it on my map with more territories!) but it is worth it.

2. I think instead of 29 territories which is not divisible by 3,4,5 or 6. Add one more country. I think it is especially important here, because of the small number of countries total.

With 29, In 6 person game each player has 4 territories with 5 neutral territories. In 5 person game each player has 5 countries with 4 neutral territories. 30 is much better.

1. it has the same exact size, but somehow photoshop does strange with the right site of the army circle if i make it 23 it doesn't look better

2. it is 28 terretories, count better

[edbeard]

1. it has the same exact size, but somehow photoshop does strange with the right site of the army circle if i make it 23 it doesn't look better

2. it is 28 terretories, count better

You have 29 army circles on the map, including the grey territory. Either way, 30 is better.

5 red, 4 green, 1 mystery, 5 yellow, 6 teal, 2 peach, 3 blue, 3 purple

5+4+1+5+6+2+3+3 = 29

[Wisse]

Something I just noticed is there are 29 territories, which you can't divide with 3, 4, 5 or 6. If you add just one more territory, you'll only get neutrals in a 4 player game.

Some of your borders are looking a bit jagged, the Shenyang/Dead territory border in particular. You could probably use a bit more definition in the legend as well. A small shadow or outline to the text will perhaps fix it up. Apart from those little things, the map is shaping up nicely Wisse.

so he was wrong, then i did add the \\\ country, should i delete it again or what?

[Wisse]

bumpo

[Wisse]

hello? i can't do anything now, must i delete the \\\ terretory or not, and what else can i do????

[KEYOGI]

Guess I counted wrong the first time.

[Wisse]

Guess I counted wrong the first time.

so must i delete it? and then there is nothing to do, this is geeting lack of interesting because it is nearly finishd
and this is for 3 & 4 player games so 28 would be perfect

[Wisse]

i have found something to do, with the new xml options that lack has made, but i will keep it secret until the next update

[KEYOGI]

Visually, it's looking very nice. The only major thing that sticks out is the borders along the sea. They look a bit strange, perhaps a side-effect of blurring?

no i wanted that, doesn't it look good? it is something else than the shadow

Ok, I can see what you've done now that I've had a closer look. I prefered it the way it was before, but see what others have to say about it.

I still feel the costal borders are an area of concern. I'm not sure the effect you're going for works too well.

And yes, having 28 territories is better than 29.

[Wisse]

Visually, it's looking very nice. The only major thing that sticks out is the borders along the sea. They look a bit strange, perhaps a side-effect of blurring?

no i wanted that, doesn't it look good? it is something else than the shadow

Ok, I can see what you've done now that I've had a closer look. I prefered it the way it was before, but see what others have to say about it.

I still feel the costal borders are an area of concern. I'm not sure the effect you're going for works too well.

And yes, having 28 territories is better than 29.

i didn't get some complaiments about it exept from you only that the unplayable must have a border too

[Great Pretender]

i think it needs to be bolder?

[Wisse]

i think it needs to be bolder?

???

[WidowMakers]

1. I think you should get your army circles from this thread or at least match yours to this size, because army numbers fit perfectly in them, and it makes it look a lot better. Right now the size of yours make the map with army numbers look weird. I know it's annoying to replace all your circles (I did it on my map with more territories!) but it is worth it.

2. I think instead of 29 territories which is not divisible by 3,4,5 or 6. Add one more country. I think it is especially important here, because of the small number of countries total.

With 29, In 6 person game each player has 4 territories with 5 neutral territories. In 5 person game each player has 5 countries with 4 neutral territories. 30 is much better.

1. it has the same exact size, but somehow photoshop does strange with the right site of the army circle if i make it 23 it doesn't look better

I don't know what you did, but photoshop will not stretch or move a layer if you don't want it to. If you make an army circle layer in photoshop (or take the PNG file in the post http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17823) you will not have number issues.

1)Put that in you large map and save the picture. China.L.jpeg
2)Then turn off the army shadow layer. Save the picture as China.LS.jpg.
3)Then open it back up and shrink it down to the correct size. Save as China.Snocircles.jpg
By doing this you scale all layer effects. The small version is EXACTLY the same as the large version.
4)Then add the same army circles over the top and you will not have problems. Save as China.S.jpg.

This is what I did for the 8 Thoughts and Great Lakes. There have been no complains (with army numbers) after this was done.

[Wisse]

1. I think you should get your army circles from this thread or at least match yours to this size, because army numbers fit perfectly in them, and it makes it look a lot better. Right now the size of yours make the map with army numbers look weird. I know it's annoying to replace all your circles (I did it on my map with more territories!) but it is worth it.

2. I think instead of 29 territories which is not divisible by 3,4,5 or 6. Add one more country. I think it is especially important here, because of the small number of countries total.

With 29, In 6 person game each player has 4 territories with 5 neutral territories. In 5 person game each player has 5 countries with 4 neutral territories. 30 is much better.

1. it has the same exact size, but somehow photoshop does strange with the right site of the army circle if i make it 23 it doesn't look better

I don't know what you did, but photoshop will not stretch or move a layer if you don't want it to. If you make an army circle layer in photoshop (or take the PNG file in the post http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17823) you will not have number issues.

1)Put that in you large map and save the picture. China.L.jpeg
2)Then turn off the army shadow layer. Save the picture as China.LS.jpg.
3)Then open it back up and shrink it down to the correct size. Save as China.Snocircles.jpg
By doing this you scale all layer effects. The small version is EXACTLY the same as the large version.
4)Then add the same army circles over the top and you will not have problems. Save as China.S.jpg.

This is what I did for the 8 Thoughts and Great Lakes. There have been no complains (with army numbers) after this was done.

i will look if it works with your armys circle (if i get it as mine is now)

[Wisse]

Update:





xml

*tried to change the army circles but it did only went to be ugly so i leave them as they are now
*changed the legend
*changed bonus of 2 for capitals into receive 1 bonus on the country itself per turn (new xml feature)
*changed \\\ country into a range country that only can weaken eastern xizang (new xml feature)


i want to have a new xml feature in it that lack didn't look at:

Suggestion Idea: Starting Neutral Territories shuffle

Description: Have a few countries that could have a neutral bonus on the start, but you don't want all, just one or two


Why It Should Be Considered: It would be great for some continents that you don't want let someone have at the start
(i don't mean you would use it on everycontinent)

Lable for lack:

that is for the countrys of jinan so you don't start with the continent
and than the problem of the number of countries is solved too (28 countries + one of jinan that is neutral)

[Wisse]

bumpo

[ParadiceCity9]

I wish this map would just FINISH already!!!

[Wisse]

I wish this map would just FINISH already!!!

me2 i am just not sure why it isn't final forged, if i look at the other final forged map mine is at the same state or even above it

[AndyDufresne]

Don't worry, I've got my eye on it.


--Andy

[Wisse]

Don't worry, I've got my eye on it.


--Andy

ok

[DiM]

i am just not sure why it isn't final forged, if i look at the other final forged map mine is at the same state or even above it

andy works in misterious ways. my AoM map has been finished for quite some time and it is not in final forge. but at least andy said he'll take a look in the next 2 months

[AndyDufresne]

I really like the general feel you have going in the map, except for two things:

1, some of the borders that touch the water...they just look odd. I'm not sure if I'd like a simple black border or not, but it is just something that catches my eye.

2, I think long ago I mentioned also the mountains feel too..graphical...3D like..and not with this paper almost, feel. You know? The wall isn't too bad, but it is close to it.

But other than those, I really enjoy the look of the map.


--Andy

[Wisse]

I really like the general feel you have going in the map, except for two things:

1, some of the borders that touch the water...they just look odd. I'm not sure if I'd like a simple black border or not, but it is just something that catches my eye.

2, I think long ago I mentioned also the mountains feel too..graphical...3D like..and not with this paper almost, feel. You know? The wall isn't too bad, but it is close to it.

But other than those, I really enjoy the look of the map.


--Andy

1. i did that on purpose, for something like a beatch effect, inseatd of the large shadow i used earlyer

2. i really don't know how to change it but i can try it