Re: 1588 Spanish Armada [16.01.14] V45 Fixes

[cairnswk]

Attached is the completed XML to reflect the above changes. 6200 lines lol.

cairns, I thought we previously discussed this, but I couldn't find it in the thread; did we agree to put a maximum of 2 on the starting positions, to keep players in 1v1 from getting 6 starting positions (3 player games would also go from 4 to 2 per player, and 4 player games would go from 3 to 2). The attached file does not have the maximum, but that's a quick fix, so let me know one way or the other.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/5/13/3303803/ArmadaV4.xml

Well no, i don't think this was discussed, but if we're going to do that it needs to be on the map.
So let me know what you and ian decide.
Also, can you adjust some of the centering for the treasury each side and also the beacons. I think the ships and land regions are pretty good.

[nolefan5311]

Attached is the completed XML to reflect the above changes. 6200 lines lol.

cairns, I thought we previously discussed this, but I couldn't find it in the thread; did we agree to put a maximum of 2 on the starting positions, to keep players in 1v1 from getting 6 starting positions (3 player games would also go from 4 to 2 per player, and 4 player games would go from 3 to 2). The attached file does not have the maximum, but that's a quick fix, so let me know one way or the other.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/5/13/3303803/ArmadaV4.xml

Well no, i don't think this was discussed, but if we're going to do that it needs to be on the map.
So let me know what you and ian decide.
Also, can you adjust some of the centering for the treasury each side and also the beacons. I think the ships and land regions are pretty good.

Ok. I will wait until Gilligan checks it to see if he any more suggested adjustments.

Also, I don't think the position maximum needs to be on the map. It's not for most maps that have limited start positions (Conquer Rome, Antarctica, Pot Mosbi, are just a couple examples).

[Gilligan]

Cairns and noles, now that you do have the large map I can start to do the check. Be aware, though, it will take a bit longer than the others!

[Gilligan]

Ow, my head. Sorry this is taking longer than usual it's just such a MONSTER

[cairnswk]

Ow, my head. Sorry this is taking longer than usual it's just such a MONSTER

That's OK, no hurry

[Gilligan]

Pool LB change neutral to 1, Beacon Pool needs to be neutral
are SS territories supposed to be a part of Spanish Ships bonus?
capitana stern doesn't border bow
Doncella missing bombardments - Santa Barbara, San Buenaventura
Santo Andrea misspelled Santo Andros
Army de Parma Front missing border Army de Parma Rear
Border between Hope and Revenge Stern is unclear
Border between Triumph Bow and Elizabeth Jonas is unclear
Truro LB missing Eddystone bombardment
Border between Rainbow Stern and Bark Bond is unclear
Rainbow Bow does not bombard Cygnet
Beacon Penzance should not border Penzance LB
Penzance LB does not border its beacon
Beacon Plymouth B should not border Plymouth
Beacon Portsmouth should not border Portsmouth
Beacon Hastings should not border Hastings
EYS C does not bombard Capitania B
EYS D does not bombard Capitania B, Princesa
FS B does not bombard GL C
Both TF regions shouldn't be able to bombard? Same with all of the army territories. They aren't listed as ships or able to bombard.
Missing conditional borders on San Lorenzo Bow/Stern
White Bear missing bombardment on Portland
Cygnet should not border Rainbow B
Bridgewater is missing E on map

[nolefan5311]

Thanks Gilligan! I will get it corrected and hopefully posted in the next 24 hours.

[nolefan5311]

Pool LB change neutral to 1, Beacon Pool needs to be neutral

Beacon Poole has been changed to 1 neutral, but think Poole LB needs to stay at 2 like all of the other LB starting positions.

are SS territories supposed to be a part of Spanish Ships bonus?

They are, as confirming by a post from cairns on December 7, 2012.

capitana stern doesn't border bow

Fixed.

Doncella missing bombardments - Santa Barbara, San Buenaventura

Fixed

Santo Andrea misspelled Santo Andros

This has been changed in all instances to Santo Andres (which is what the map states).

Army de Parma Front missing border Army de Parma Rear

Fixed

Border between Hope and Revenge Stern is unclear

For cairns

Border between Triumph Bow and Elizabeth Jonas is unclear

For cairns

Truro LB missing Eddystone bombardment

Fixed

Border between Rainbow Stern and Bark Bond is unclear

For cairns

Rainbow Bow does not bombard Cygnet

Cygnet is 3 regions away, so I don't think it should bombard it.

Beacon Penzance should not border Penzance LB
Penzance LB does not border its beacon
Beacon Plymouth B should not border Plymouth
Beacon Portsmouth should not border Portsmouth
Beacon Hastings should not border Hastings

Are you sure the open Beacon's don't border the regions their in? I assumed they did, which is why the border isn't there. I think cairns will need to clarify this. And the xml file shows Penzance LB did appear to border the Beacon. It's reflected in the file.

EYS C does not bombard Capitania B

Fixed

EYS D does not bombard Capitania B, Princesa

Fixed

FS B does not bombard GL C

Fixed

Both TF regions shouldn't be able to bombard? Same with all of the army territories. They aren't listed as ships or able to bombard.

I don't believe they bombard. Land Regions aren't listed in the legend as being able to bombard. cairns?

Missing conditional borders on San Lorenzo Bow/Stern

How did I miss that? Fixed.

White Bear missing bombardment on Portland

Fixed

Cygnet should not border Rainbow B

Fixed. I think was listed above, but I see where the confusion is. I've removed the bombardments from both Cygnet and Rainbow Bow.

Bridgewater is missing E on map

I'm not sure if the map is incorrect, but I've changed the XML to match the territory on the map. If an "e" needs to be added, cairns, let me know and I'll change the file.

Corrected file: http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/5/13/ ... a27Mar.xml

[nolefan5311]

And the XML file is attached in this post.

[Gilligan]

as far as the beacon thing, the arrow in the top corner is a one-way arrow. that's why I thought the beacon didn't attack its region.

As far as TF and Army bombardments, you do have them in the xml. We agree here but the xml doesn't.

[cairnswk]

...

exmoore, bridgewater, portsmith and is of wight ought to be exmoor, bridgwater, portsmouth and i of wight respectively.
...

ian.

Gilligan wrote:Bridgewater is missing E on map
I'm not sure if the map is incorrect, but I've changed the XML to match the territory on the map. If an "e" needs to be added, cairns, let me know and I'll change the file.

As per the above post from ian, bridgwater has no "e" after "g"

Are you sure the open Beacon's don't border the regions their in? I assumed they did, which is why the border isn't there. I think cairns will need to clarify this. ...

Open Beacons border the landbase they are in.
INstructions in legend:

Beacons (named as the land they occupy), can
be lit only from open-top borders or one-way arrows;
they cannot be bombarded

[cairnswk]

before i upload any changes after next Friday (Tax Test) is there anything further that needs to be changed graphically?

[nolefan5311]

As far as TF and Army bombardments, you do have them in the xml. We agree here but the xml doesn't.

What about this cairns? The British land territories do no bombard, correct?

[cairnswk]

As far as TF and Army bombardments, you do have them in the xml. We agree here but the xml doesn't.

What about this cairns? The British land territories do no bombard, correct?

I beleive the legend states:
Bombardments: Each ship region, army and land base has a range of two in any direction.

[Gilligan]

Good call. There's just so much to take into account for here it's easy to miss.

[Gilligan]

nole, before I stamp you - accidentally moved this before I told you some coordinates to fix

Large
Army Gent
Army Antwerpen
Chio
Zuniga
Frida
GL C (just a tad on border)
FS A and C (just a tad on border)
Zabra Julia
El Gato (tad on bordr)
San Juan Stern
San Cristobal Stern
San Lorenzo Stern
SS David (tad on border)
La Manuela
El Gran Grin

Small
El Gran Grin
SS David
Army Gent
Army Antwerpen
Zuniga
Frida

after this I will be happy to stamp

[isaiah40]

[MOVED] back until corrections are taken care of.

[Gilligan]

[MOVED] back until corrections are taken care of.

thanks

[nolefan5311]

I'm going to post the updated coordinates tonight or tomorrow. I was holding off to see if things needed to be changed after cairns uploaded graphic changes, but I won't wait any longer.

[nolefan5311]

http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/5/13/ ... prilv2.xml

Let me know if that works for you Gill. The large map should be fine, but the small map is where there might be some issues. If this works, I will repost in the Official thread and upload my file. Otherwise, I'll make the necessary changes and then upload the finalized version.

[nolefan5311]

So...are these coordinates good?

[Gilligan]

So...are these coordinates good?

I've been waiting on some cairns updates. The map could get by without them I suppose, but it would make it smoother if the changes were made.

Gotta await cairns' decision on that one.

[cairnswk]

So...are these coordinates good?

I've been waiting on some cairns updates. The map could get by without them I suppose, but it would make it smoother if the changes were made.

Gotta await cairns' decision on that one.

What updates Gill?

[Gilligan]

There were some borders that I thought were unclear

Border between Hope and Revenge Stern is unclear
Border between Triumph Bow and Elizabeth Jonas is unclear
Border between Rainbow Stern and Bark Bond is unclear
Border between Princesa and Capitana Bow is unclear

Those four borders (mainly from the black line of the ship) makes it hard to tell if they actually border or not

[cairnswk]

Guys, i have another week to go before finishing exams.
Then i'll be back (hopefully) to get some of this bits and pieces finished.