Magyarország [Quenched]

[Oneyed]

maybe better say: ...and save the Kingdom under your leadership?

Are you sure? if I have to follow your thoughts and the contents I've read in the links, the above text you posted does the opposite imo, like that the current hungary is in ruin. I think that "save the kingdom" is exactly the political concept that that political group is using to find some followers.
Personally I find ian's version really good. Or instead use the old version koontz had on the map but without the last period. Personally I don't think it's necessary to say that you have to reunite the kingdom of hungary, this becuase there's no a real-explicit objective on the map...just people will fight to control that area. Yeah maybe the story can suffer a bit for this, but I don't think it will ruin the map.

it seems that my very last post wasn´t last...

let me explain this, nobodies.
the political concept is not about renovation of Kingdom, but about renovation of Great Hungary, which means to annex "lost" lands to Hungary. so it is not about polity, but more about annexation of lands.
to the year 1946 was official name of Hungary - Kingdom of Hungary (Magyar Kiralyság) and I can not find any other name which would fit the theme and area...

I'm a bit busy today, but i will review the list of names you posted here asap to see if some other of them can be changed accordingly your suggestions.

Nobodies

if will be used ian´s version these names are baseless, because ian´s version (if I good understand) is set up to the time when Trianon become to validity. so then magyar names are fine.
if there will be used original version (and change of names will be advised) then also names of regions in Kingdom of Romania, Austria, Poland, Kingdom of Italy, Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes need change to their language.

let´s work together (also you koontz) to make this map better and without any neo fascsit tone. I found ian and nobodies as peolpe who care... and me too...

Oneyed

[ManBungalow]

The Budapest icon on the small map might be too small to identify with troop numbers on top.

[koontz1973]

The Budapest icon on the small map might be too small to identify with troop numbers on top.

It is OK, first post has the map with numbers on. It is fine.

[iancanton]

maybe better say: ...and save the Kingdom under your leadership?

i think u're saying that hungary was not a country (nation-state) in the modern sense, but that it was really a multi-national kingdom. from this viewpoint, save the Kingdom does fit the theme.

ones more thanks ian, you have my big apprecation.

thanks, oneyed, i'm just glad that we can move forward and have a chance to complete a good map.

While foreign powers are still bickering over the spoils, stage an uprising and unite the country under your leadership.

In my opinion, that completely changes what the map is about. I personally like the story as is. But it's up to Koontz, so whatever he decides.

it does completely change the subject because an uprising at the time of the treaty is a fantasy that never happened. it doesn't stir up the passions as much as the original story, which is both a bad and good thing.

ian.

[AndyDufresne]

I'll leave the nation-state politics to those who have invested more time into learning the nuances of everything, but I'll just say that I am probably in agreement with one of thenobodies80 items:

personally I find ian's version really good. Or instead use the old version koontz had on the map but without the last period. Personally I don't think it's necessary to say that you have to reunite the kingdom of hungary, this becuase there's no a real-explicit objective on the map...just people will fight to control that area. Yeah maybe the story can suffer a bit for this, but I don't think it will ruin the map.

--Andy

[nolefan5311]

Here's the downloadable file. Sorry it took my so long to post this...forgot about it. Hopefully this will be enough to get the xml checked and the map into beta.

[thenobodies80]

- Varsad on the map Varasd in the xml
- Some names have no accents on letters but there are on the map. Veroce, zagrab, zolyom
- A name has accent but there isn't on the map, Szerem
- Szepes, move the name up on the small version

everything else looks good, just i wait to stamp this because you have to edit the xml.

Nobodies

[nolefan5311]

- Varsad on the map Varasd in the xml
- Some names have no accents on letters but there are on the map. Veroce, zagrab, zolyom
- A name has accent but there isn't on the map, Szerem
- Szepes, move the name up on the small version

everything else looks good, just i wait to stamp this because you have to edit the xml.

Nobodies

Will get them fixed tonight. Is this in all the instances in the XML, or just specific ones?

[nolefan5311]

- Varsad on the map Varasd in the xml

The small map shows Varsad and the large map shows Varasd. koontz, let me know which one it needs to be and you'll have to change the image.

- Some names have no accents on letters but there are on the map. Veroce

Fixed

zagrab

Fixed

zolyom

Fixed

- A name has accent but there isn't on the map, Szerem

The large map has an accent mark and the small one doesn't. Again, koontz, let me know which one it should be.

Szepes, move the name up on the small version

Is this directed at koontz as far as the image is concerned? Or do you mean the army numbers needs to be moved up?

I will post the completed once I hear from you and koontz.

[koontz1973]

As to the names, it is the large version that needs to be followed for the correct spelling. I will correct the spelling on the small today. Will moved Szepes also. Expect them later today.

EDIT: Had time before work.

Click image to enlarge.

Click image to enlarge.

On a separate note, how about Jakarta?

[nolefan5311]

Ok, here is the corrected XML. Sorry for the delay.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/5/13/ ... Magyar.xml

[koontz1973]

No problem nole, a few maps before this one to get to be played on so no rush YET.

[thenobodies80]

The xml is ok!



2 minor things before to upload the files for the Beta stage:
1. Why you decided to have a different color for the non playable area on the Austrian-Italian side, when instead Kingdom of Romania and Kingdom of Serbs, Croatian and Slovenes are the same?
2. Could you please have a costant spacing between letters and words in the story (the one in which you used the native language) on the small version?

Nobodies

[koontz1973]

The xml is ok!



2 minor things before to upload the files for the Beta stage:
1. Why you decided to have a different color for the non playable area on the Austrian-Italian side, when instead Kingdom of Romania and Kingdom of Serbs, Croatian and Slovenes are the same?
2. Could you please have a costant spacing between letters and words in the story (the one in which you used the native language) on the small version?

Nobodies

1. All of the countries that border have a different colour. Would you like a single colour?
2. Will go and look at spacing now for you.

[thenobodies80]

Maybe they are different, but two of them look almost the same to me...anyway I'm not asking nothing about that, you can leave them as they are, I was just wondering why a totally different color. So, considering that also the other two are different, if it was my map I would have used another shade of the same color but not another totally different color...but it's just a personal preference.

[nolefan5311]

The xml is ok!



2 minor things before to upload the files for the Beta stage:
1. Why you decided to have a different color for the non playable area on the Austrian-Italian side, when instead Kingdom of Romania and Kingdom of Serbs, Croatian and Slovenes are the same?
2. Could you please have a costant spacing between letters and words in the story (the one in which you used the native language) on the small version?

Nobodies

Thanks tnb!

[koontz1973]

Large map and small have one colour for the non playable land. Small map text fixed.

Click image to enlarge.

Click image to enlarge.

the reason the first post took ages to upload was because of visicheck CB tests. Had to delete them for it to work.

[thenobodies80]

I noticed too that vischeck isn't working anymore....don't know if it's a temporary thing or if they won't give a free online service anymore.
Anyway both PS and GIMP have their colorblind vision tests nowdays so it's not a so big issue. (apart the fact I wasted 10 mins today trying to add a dot to your first post )

[koontz1973]

Noticed that cairns got a silver dot, please may I have one oh blue god that looks over us with kindness and humility?

[thenobodies80]

I'm waiting an answer from the tech guys, the map will be available very soon.

[thenobodies80]

Got an answer, just the time to send and upload the files and you will be able to play!

[thenobodies80]

Guys, we're fast today...the map is live!

Beta - Quenching

---The Final Forge period has concluded for the Magyarország Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Beta Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready for BETA Play. After an extended period of time in BETA and once all quirks and issues have been resolved, the map will be put into Full Play (barring any vetoes).

Conquer Club, enjoy!

While the map is in BETA Play, there are a couple of administrative tasks that are required of the mapmaker(s) in addition to the initial gameplay testing:

1. Please ensure that the first post of the thread contains all the necessary information to help future visitors to the development thread; it's particularly important to ensure the most recent images are there, along with any helpful guides (such as gameplay quirks/nuances or the location/size of any starting neutrals etc.)
2. It is the responsibility of the mapmaker(s) to ensure that they respond to further feedback in a timely and constructive manner.
3. Write a "creative" map description and send it to the Foundry Foreman via PM. You're encouraged to post it into the first post of the thread as well; the description will be used to populate the maps database.

thenobodies80

[nolefan5311]

[koontz1973]

nobodies, thanks.

[thehippo8]

good stuff!!