HighlanderAttack- ratings abuse[cleared]SN

[Symmetry]

I have not read through this as it is a waste of time to do so--all I am going to say is that was the worst bunch of players I have ever played with in all my games--If I could have given worse ratings I would have.

Oddly enough, you could have, with the tags. The fact that you didn't doesn't stop you from being an ass, it just makes you an incompetent ass.

[Swifte]

I've done the math... HA has played roughly 17 pages of games in the last 6 months (equates to about 1700 games).

During that time, he's left 12 bad ratings (7 of them from the one game that's already been discussed in depth) and 5 others.
And 2 good ratings.

Up to the C&A mods if that's a pattern ratings abuse or not.

[Symmetry]

I've done the math... HA has played roughly 17 pages of games in the last 6 months (equates to about 1700 games).

During that time, he's left 12 bad ratings (7 of them from the one game that's already been discussed in depth) and 5 others.
And 2 good ratings.

Up to the C&A mods if that's a pattern ratings abuse or not.

And once again, the complaint is about abuse of the ratings system...

how often the rating system is used but not abused, and how often it is not used at all per player are irrelevant.

I doubt that many mods see the system as something to be employed in this way. It ain't just intended to be a punishment toward players you lose to.

[Symmetry]

Just in case the players posting here in defence of HighlanderAttack's methods, fail to mention that they're close to him:

Swifte has 28 games with him, most of them 1v1
Agentcom has 14, all 1v1

Leehar has 113 games, plenty of 1v1 games,

One would have thought that these players might have mentioned their relationship before.

[sundance123]

Just in case the players posting here in defence of HighlanderAttack's methods, fail to mention that they're close to him:

Swifte has 28 games with him, most of them 1v1
Agentcom has 14, all 1v1

Leehar has 113 games, plenty of 1v1 games,

One would have thought that these players might have mentioned their relationship before.

Having yourself played only 66 games in 5 years I dont think you are best placed to judge someone who plays alot on this site. Remember to declare relevant information about your own posts too

Swifte's point is very relevant.

sundance (66 games with HA btw)

[patrickaa317]

Just in case the players posting here in defence of HighlanderAttack's methods, fail to mention that they're close to him:

Swifte has 28 games with him, most of them 1v1
Agentcom has 14, all 1v1

Leehar has 113 games, plenty of 1v1 games,

One would have thought that these players might have mentioned their relationship before.

Having yourself played only 66 games in 5 years I dont think you are best placed to judge someone who plays alot on this site. Remember to declare relevant information about your own posts too

Swifte's point is very relevant.

sundance (66 games with HA btw)

+1 on sundance's comment. It seems some people like to just stir up drama.

HA has contributed a lot more to the site between all his tournaments he has ran, all the premium he has given away, and games he has taken part in as far. If he wants to give a few people bad ratings for playing bad, I think he should be able to. I don't believe in treating people differently based on what they have done but for the most active non-paying, non-playing member to criticize one of the biggest contributors to this site for giving some 1 star ratings is quite laughable.

In reality, HA could probably just go through the people in his finished games list, give them all 5 stars and shut everyone here up.

[EagleofGreenErth]

I don't believe its necessary for HA to post links on my wall linking to youtube videos titled "dumbass".

[patrickaa317]

87 games with HA, including some on the same team as him.

[sundance123]

I don't believe its necessary for HA to post links on my wall linking to youtube videos titled "dumbass".

You should really change your profile information before inviting people to that page.

[agentcom]

i don't know what you mean, there are 7 examples in the OP alone, rather than "a couple", and if you feel like clicking on his ratings left, you'll find many more examples.

Those 7 examples have been explained. Anything else?

And once again, the complaint is about abuse of the ratings system...

how often the rating system is used but not abused, and how often it is not used at all per player are irrelevant.

I doubt that many mods see the system as something to be employed in this way. It ain't just intended to be a punishment toward players you lose to.

You're are missing the point. The recent ratings that have been discussed have been justified. Furthermore, he is not systematically abusing the ratings system. Hell, he rarely even uses it.

Just in case the players posting here in defence of HighlanderAttack's methods, fail to mention that they're close to him:

Agentcom has 14, all 1v1

One would have thought that these players might have mentioned their relationship before.

First off, I made it pretty clear from my first post that I don't want this player banned, but for other selfish reasons. I want to keep playing in his tournament. If you were looking for bias, you shouldn't have had to look very far. I admitted such right away. I also said that in the games that I've played with him, I've never had an issue with him. How did you miss that? "Failed to mention" Haha. Because I didn't give an explicit game count? Is that a requirement for posting in C&A now? Lol. But my bias doesn't affect the fact that this report doesn't have a leg to stand on once the ratings from the OP are justified. No one here has pointed to another rating with anything but "Go look at his page."

Symmetry, I believe this is the second time that you've come onto a thread that I've been on and started posting the most useless, moronic garbage that seems to have no other purpose than to incite other players. I had forgotten about you, until sundance's comment reminded me of who you are. I don't know whether you are stupid or if you are clever and conniving, but all you do is derail discussions, ignore arguments against you, throw out nonsensical ad hominem attacks, repeat your point of view ceaselessly, and generally try to defeat your opposition through attrition because everyone just gets fed up with you. I'm guessing that you're just dumb, but it could be that you actually think out how best to get under everyone's skin. In that case you do a pretty good job at being a dick.

Anyway, seeing as neither the OP nor you have provided any more examples and that you refuse to acknowledge or refute anyone's arguments here, I say "Good day, sir!"

[HighlanderAttack]

short question did HA win the game,if he did then he is justified in the ratings,If he lost then probably not. how can you give someone who beats you a 1 star.

But he is HA and you will probably get hit with filing a spurious report here.

He didn't win, and the OP is correct, he gave everyone who beat him a one star rating. I guess it wasn't ok for him to lose the points, he had to grind down others.

The OP is incorrect though- he does give five star ratings, but seemingly only to players he regularly plays 1v1 against, or teammates.

Beat this dude and he will screw around with your ratings:

http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?mode=ratings2&username=HighlanderAttack

He should come with a warning.

I only rate when I have to rate someone bad in most cases. I usually do not waste the time with rating nor do I care who rates me. But when I run across bad players and dumb ass players I give them a one star--only because they do not have the option of giving them a zero. I have a few moments to read through this thread now--this should be very entertaining

[HighlanderAttack]

Here we go again another "ratting abuse" report, Really unless the accused has 5+ pages or more worth of 1 star ratings, then you might have something to complain about. Honestly, looking over the game in questioned, i would of rated exactly the same as Highlander. Looks like it was a classic terminator game where low rank dumb-ass players team-up on a higher rank, committing suicide over a lousy fixation for a bonus other then getting cards....

But in the long run, it all backfired on them like it always does.

Damn Straight

[HighlanderAttack]

Dude, I see what you're trying to say, but an accusation of ratings abuse should be judged by ratings left. Either he's abusing the ratings system, or he isn't. If you feel, in spite of looking at the way he's been using the system, that he hasn't been abusing it, then that's fine, but I will have to disagree with you.

That he hasn't left ratings in a lot of games seems rather irrelevant to the accusation that he's been abusing the rating system when he has used it. And past good behaviour may well be taken into account for the punishment, but it's not really a good defence against the accusation.

Couldn't it be argued that HA is only bothering to leave ratings for people he has negative experiences with? Since he leaves so few ratings overall in the past 18 months, I don't see that as abuse. We aren't required to leave ratings for everyone we play with.

An old saying if you dont have anything good to say then dont say anything at all,if he is not going to leave good ratings why bother to leave the bad ones.

And to leave a 1 star rating for a player in a game were they beat you for whatever reason is in itself a bad rating therefore abuse.

Is it possible that all the players who have gotten these one star ratings are bad at the game and just got a lucky win,if so then hell its all dice luck anyway and no one deserves above a 1 star rating.

I doubt I ever give a bad rating for someone who beat me--I dont even care. I give one ratings usually in multi-player games to players who are clueless and f*ck the game up. 1v1 is usually decided by the random luck of the draw and has very little bearing on how good you are. It is the player who decides to get a bonus in an 8 player game and destroys someone to do so--it is the player who blocks someones card spot and ruins the game--it is the player who goes for a kill but can't re-cash or goes for a kill with no chance--those are players who are clueless and deserve a one.

[agentcom]

I only rate when I have to rate someone bad in most cases. I usually do not waste the time with rating nor do I care who rates me. But when I run across bad players and dumb ass players I give them a one star--only because they do not have the option of giving them a zero. I have a few moments to read through this thread now--this should be very entertaining

The bolded part should be encouraged, not punished.

[HighlanderAttack]

Just in case the players posting here in defence of HighlanderAttack's methods, fail to mention that they're close to him:

Swifte has 28 games with him, most of them 1v1
Agentcom has 14, all 1v1

Leehar has 113 games, plenty of 1v1 games,

One would have thought that these players might have mentioned their relationship before.

Symmetry--you are so out to hang me--but what you do not understand is I do not care one way or the other--I play CC ten minutes a day--finishing out my tourney games--I could care less if I get a chat ban or a month ban for all that matter. All I have to do is finish the tourneys I am playing in and the ones I am running--unless a lightning bolt hits my ass and makes me care about random numbers again, I have pretty much checked out of CC anyway. I always love reading these threads though--there are so many ignorant people--always makes me interested in how the survive in real life.

[HighlanderAttack]

I don't believe its necessary for HA to post links on my wall linking to youtube videos titled "dumbass".

I just wanted you to know how I feel about you

[SlayerQC]

I don't believe its necessary for HA to post links on my wall linking to youtube videos titled "dumbass".

I just wanted you to know how I feel about you

I've foed him so he felt the need to invade my private inbox with insults. No "link" though. I wanted to feel special too.
Maybe you should post that video on his wall, seems fitting.

[SlayerQC]

Ratings abuse or not, this arrogant, rude foul mouth should be given a chat ban... Jesus, he even said he would throw the game (suicide). Off to my foe list he goes.

And if you look at what he says,he said it in the chat he would suicide on red and apparentley did so if you look at the game log. thus giving the game to orange by default but insuring the lower ranked red player would not win.

I believe that is against the rules as well.

Exactly. How many offense is this now?

-possible rating abuse
-throwing the game
-insutls through walls
-insults through private messaging

What next?

HA, retire dude. Bebye.

[HighlanderAttack]

Ratings abuse or not, this arrogant, rude foul mouth should be given a chat ban... Jesus, he even said he would throw the game (suicide). Off to my foe list he goes.

And if you look at what he says,he said it in the chat he would suicide on red and apparentley did so if you look at the game log. thus giving the game to orange by default but insuring the lower ranked red player would not win.

I believe that is against the rules as well.

Exactly. How many offense is this now?

-possible rating abuse
-throwing the game
-insutls through walls
-insults through private messaging

What next?

HA, retire dude. Bebye.

cry a little more little girl

[Barney Rubble]

Time to lock this .
Heres a question ...Ifyou dont care about any of it and have given up on C C anyway why bother rating at all ?? Just saying .
Heres a thought .....Is your current disallusionment with CC directly co-related to your assessment of recent opponents ?
If your answer to Door#2 is Yes ...Believe me I can sympathize in some respects
However ..as far as ratings go its kinda like "The kettle calling the Pot Black "....if you know what I mean ...you do Right ? .........oh yeh You Do ?
BR

[sniffie]

I've checked the ratings left by HA, and didn't find that much unjustified ratings that would earn him a warning.

Therefore he's cleared.

sniffie

[agentcom]

Cue comments about how HA is part of the "in crowd" in CC. You guys never punish your own. This site is so damn UNFAIR!

Ready ... set ... go!

[Woodruff]

Cue comments about how HA is part of the "in crowd" in CC. You guys never punish your own. This site is so damn UNFAIR!

Ready ... set ... go!

I'm one that believes this does happen...but not in this case. While HA can be quite abusive in games, and I wouldn't at all be surprised if he hasn't left SOME abusive ratings, I don't believe there are enough obvious ones there to justify any such claim in this case.

[DJPatrick]

HA...Hahahahhhahahahhhhhhhhah...why does this not suprize me???? Clique rulez okay???

[HighlanderAttack]

Time to lock this .
Heres a question ...Ifyou dont care about any of it and have given up on C C anyway why bother rating at all ?? Just saying .
Heres a thought .....Is your current disallusionment with CC directly co-related to your assessment of recent opponents ?
If your answer to Door#2 is Yes ...Believe me I can sympathize in some respects
However ..as far as ratings go its kinda like "The kettle calling the Pot Black "....if you know what I mean ...you do Right ? .........oh yeh You Do ?
BR

Always an entertaining assessment from you BR.

disillusionment They do make spell check.

feel free to get you buddies to rate me ones--my 4.8 has not changed since my first month--ratings in the just do not have the impact some of you think they do.

Although I usually do not rate--when I play a bad player as stated before they will get ones --some will care--some will not--really it does not matter anyway.

Enjoy all