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sniffie wrote:could you provide me 5 ratings you find incorrect.
sniffie
jltile1 wrote:sniffie wrote:could you provide me 5 ratings you find incorrect.
sniffie
Here we go again. Can you do your job bud not trying to be a ass but come on. Look at rating left then look at a few games simple right .
nagerous wrote:Dibbun is a well known psychotic from the forums
Army of GOD wrote:Congrats to Dibbun, the white jesus, and all of his mercy and forgiveness.
Jdsizzleslice wrote: So you can crawl back to whatever psychosocial nutjob hole you came from.
Dibbun wrote:jltile1 wrote:sniffie wrote:could you provide me 5 ratings you find incorrect.
sniffie
Here we go again. Can you do your job bud not trying to be a ass but come on. Look at rating left then look at a few games simple right .
Are we really going to go through this again?
The burden is on you to provide public evidence. Public. Evidence. Evidence available to the CC public to examine, analyze, and comment on in a constructive fashion.
You don't want a CC where people are banned without public evidence, where a mod can just reply in passing, 'oh I checked it out and yeah there was an offense and don't ask for me to back it up because the evidence is probably there.'
The C&A mods use investigative tools in issues of cheating, multis, and secret diplomacy. Even then you're expected to post a game number and a brief abstract concerning why the suspicion exists. Quite honestly the burden of providing evidence is very small for you (5 games!!) and would be very large for them - lots of reports! - so in my opinion you're being unreasonable.
Here's an example of a good C&A report, where there was a lot of evidence provided for the mods and the CC public: link
jltile1 wrote:sniffie wrote:could you provide me 5 ratings you find incorrect.
sniffie
Here we go again. Can you do your job bud not trying to be a ass but come on. Look at rating left then look at a few games simple right .
rhp 1 wrote:Fair Play Gameplay Attitude Left For / Date
dschulman 4.9
2012-06-30 20:13:25 [find games]
Tags: Slow, Cheap Tactics
2012-06-30 20:33:03 - hoytdwow: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
2012-06-30 20:35:18 - dschulman: yeah, trench can drag on
2012-06-30 20:36:33 - hoytdwow: especially when your opponent is slow
2012-06-30 20:40:32 - dschulman: my computer is having trouble...keeps timing out
2012-06-30 20:43:37 - dschulman: its over now
2012-06-30 20:48:00 - hoytdwow: typical
limbo 4.7
2012-06-22 06:35:10 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat
OK
csemis10 4.2
2012-06-20 15:28:55 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat, Coward
2012-06-20 16:28:41 - csemis10 was kicked out for missing too many turns
mzomboracz001 4.8
2012-06-19 12:52:47 [find games]
Tags: Slow, Complainer
2012-06-19 13:49:39 - mzomboracz001: not sure why you are taking so long with that many guys
2012-06-19 13:51:21 - mzomboracz001: please finish
rhp 1 4.5
2012-06-19 08:29:42 [find games]
ok
jdubbs1234 4.8
2012-06-18 14:12:01 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat
2012-06-18 15:11:45 - jdubbs1234 was kicked out for missing too many turns
vragus 4.7
2012-06-18 08:57:14 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat, Coward, Quitter
Response: I missed one speed game and I'm called all this names?! You loose 5:1 in games mate!!!
2012-06-18 09:56:46 - vragus was kicked out for missing too many turns
sacthesac 4.7
2012-06-15 20:46:47 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat, Coward
2012-06-15 21:46:30 - sacthesac was kicked out for missing too many turns
Killerz999 4.7
2012-06-11 18:36:40 [find games]
Response: I beat him 2 out of 2 games...
2012-06-11 19:21:16 - Killerz999: making up for my last game...
2012-06-11 19:23:12 - Killerz999: There u go u just took out 9 and lost 2
2012-06-11 19:24:45 - Killerz999: see merry christmas on dice not much to complain about any more eh?
2012-06-11 19:25:37 - Killerz999: except my cards
2012-06-11 19:28:33 - Killerz999: My turn for crazy dice
2012-06-11 19:30:36 - Killerz999: grrr stupid server
2012-06-11 19:33:56 - Killerz999: Thanks for the game
guzmanuk 4.6
2012-06-04 19:28:38 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat, Coward, Clueless, Poor Strategy
Missed 2 turns, then round limit hit
2012-06-04 20:18:05 - guzmanuk: Stop being childish
2012-06-04 20:24:51 - guzmanuk: and now who is the dumb lucky idiot - you are only ahead because of luck zero strategy = just pure luck
padfootsm 4.5
2012-06-02 19:26:07 [find games]
This is all 5's?
begbiesan 4.6
2012-05-27 20:16:58 [find games]
Tags: Slow
photohippie 4.8
2012-05-25 22:02:52 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat
Response: This rating is a bit ridiculous...yes I deadbeated on a trench speed game, just because I knew it was over and it was faster that way. All our other games have been good games. BS rating dude
nice scott 4.6
2012-05-24 16:43:18 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat
ivanbuba 4.8
2012-05-23 19:02:05 [find games]
dazzler72 4.3
2012-05-22 18:59:40 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat
iosaro 4.5
2012-05-18 21:51:53 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat, Quitter
JonFitz 4.6
2012-05-18 21:37:51 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat, Quitter
croyd 4.8
2012-05-17 08:12:17 [find games]
lee67 4.6
2012-05-15 19:16:30 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat
PSU 86 4.8
2012-05-11 20:55:37 [find games]
Response: Hoytdwow insisted I come thru neutral to finish him off. He could come thru neutral to speed things up at the end. He tries to tell his opponent how to play.
Culs De Sac 4.7
2012-05-11 20:36:27 [find games]
danfrank 4.3
2012-05-10 20:13:38 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat
geomann 4.4
2012-05-10 19:59:27 [find games]
Kaze 4.9
2012-05-09 19:23:50 [find games]
Androida 4.6
2012-05-09 18:17:21 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat
angaralı 4.3
2012-05-09 18:07:59 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat, Poor Strategy
these are his last 27 ratings... all but 5 are 1 star across the board... it really doesn't take a lot of effort to see that he is abusing the system sniffie... it took you days to repsond to this thread, and then you want me to do the work for you... heh...
BGtheBrain wrote:Wow, thanks for taking the time to actually gather evidence for the accusation.
Out of the list you copy and pasted without actually lookin in to the ratings, I found 2 instances of abuse. I eventually stopped wasting my time.
I would like to thank you however for giving us a prime example of why the accuser needs evidence in the first place.
Something that you thought was so obvious and easy, was not in fact ratings abuse.rhp 1 wrote:Fair Play Gameplay Attitude Left For / Date
dschulman 4.9
2012-06-30 20:13:25 [find games]
Tags: Slow, Cheap Tactics
2012-06-30 20:33:03 - hoytdwow: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
2012-06-30 20:35:18 - dschulman: yeah, trench can drag on
2012-06-30 20:36:33 - hoytdwow: especially when your opponent is slow
2012-06-30 20:40:32 - dschulman: my computer is having trouble...keeps timing out
2012-06-30 20:43:37 - dschulman: its over now
2012-06-30 20:48:00 - hoytdwow: typical
limbo 4.7
2012-06-22 06:35:10 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat
OK
csemis10 4.2
2012-06-20 15:28:55 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat, Coward
2012-06-20 16:28:41 - csemis10 was kicked out for missing too many turns
mzomboracz001 4.8
2012-06-19 12:52:47 [find games]
Tags: Slow, Complainer
2012-06-19 13:49:39 - mzomboracz001: not sure why you are taking so long with that many guys
2012-06-19 13:51:21 - mzomboracz001: please finish
rhp 1 4.5
2012-06-19 08:29:42 [find games]
ok
jdubbs1234 4.8
2012-06-18 14:12:01 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat
2012-06-18 15:11:45 - jdubbs1234 was kicked out for missing too many turns
vragus 4.7
2012-06-18 08:57:14 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat, Coward, Quitter
Response: I missed one speed game and I'm called all this names?! You loose 5:1 in games mate!!!
2012-06-18 09:56:46 - vragus was kicked out for missing too many turns
sacthesac 4.7
2012-06-15 20:46:47 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat, Coward
2012-06-15 21:46:30 - sacthesac was kicked out for missing too many turns
Killerz999 4.7
2012-06-11 18:36:40 [find games]
Response: I beat him 2 out of 2 games...
2012-06-11 19:21:16 - Killerz999: making up for my last game...
2012-06-11 19:23:12 - Killerz999: There u go u just took out 9 and lost 2
2012-06-11 19:24:45 - Killerz999: see merry christmas on dice not much to complain about any more eh?
2012-06-11 19:25:37 - Killerz999: except my cards
2012-06-11 19:28:33 - Killerz999: My turn for crazy dice
2012-06-11 19:30:36 - Killerz999: grrr stupid server
2012-06-11 19:33:56 - Killerz999: Thanks for the game
guzmanuk 4.6
2012-06-04 19:28:38 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat, Coward, Clueless, Poor Strategy
Missed 2 turns, then round limit hit
2012-06-04 20:18:05 - guzmanuk: Stop being childish
2012-06-04 20:24:51 - guzmanuk: and now who is the dumb lucky idiot - you are only ahead because of luck zero strategy = just pure luck
padfootsm 4.5
2012-06-02 19:26:07 [find games]
This is all 5's?
begbiesan 4.6
2012-05-27 20:16:58 [find games]
Tags: Slow
photohippie 4.8
2012-05-25 22:02:52 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat
Response: This rating is a bit ridiculous...yes I deadbeated on a trench speed game, just because I knew it was over and it was faster that way. All our other games have been good games. BS rating dude
nice scott 4.6
2012-05-24 16:43:18 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat
ivanbuba 4.8
2012-05-23 19:02:05 [find games]
dazzler72 4.3
2012-05-22 18:59:40 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat
iosaro 4.5
2012-05-18 21:51:53 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat, Quitter
JonFitz 4.6
2012-05-18 21:37:51 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat, Quitter
croyd 4.8
2012-05-17 08:12:17 [find games]
lee67 4.6
2012-05-15 19:16:30 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat
PSU 86 4.8
2012-05-11 20:55:37 [find games]
Response: Hoytdwow insisted I come thru neutral to finish him off. He could come thru neutral to speed things up at the end. He tries to tell his opponent how to play.
Culs De Sac 4.7
2012-05-11 20:36:27 [find games]
danfrank 4.3
2012-05-10 20:13:38 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat
geomann 4.4
2012-05-10 19:59:27 [find games]
Kaze 4.9
2012-05-09 19:23:50 [find games]
Androida 4.6
2012-05-09 18:17:21 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat
angaralı 4.3
2012-05-09 18:07:59 [find games]
Tags: Deadbeat, Poor Strategy
these are his last 27 ratings... all but 5 are 1 star across the board... it really doesn't take a lot of effort to see that he is abusing the system sniffie... it took you days to repsond to this thread, and then you want me to do the work for you... heh...
BGtheBrain wrote:So let me get this straight.
You come here, you file a complaint incorrectly (you are aware Ratings Abuse needs multiple examples).
Then, you post a list of garbage where you provide examples that only show the accused leaves valid ratings.
I go through your garbage, point it out, and you respond by saying that I should've kept going?
At what point does it become your responsibility as an accuser to provide some evidence?
All you have to do is provide the examples you were asked for. The examples that you know are needed.
rhp 1 wrote:what? ru fucking serious you goofball... can't believe i'm even commenting on this, but alas.. here I am... you're a dork and why are you taking up space for such frivolous nonsense... get a life you loser...
for a commentary on how serious I take ratings (which are a joke btw) many of my 1 star ratings are for my closest CC friends... case in point.. Louie92, Clapper011, chuckD, Culs, Pixar (now that's irony if i've ever heard of it), lanyards just to name a few... just to name a few all got 1 star across the board..... funny players who are far superior to you couldn't care less.. though i'm sure if I gave you poor ratings they were honest and accurate...I'm sorry your life is so pitiful that you find it necessary to take the time to cry all over CC's forum... I'll send you a tissue when I get a chance...
rhp 1 wrote:really? you "stopped wasting your time" hahaha... ok.. well... if you kept investigating (pretty sure that's why you're a mod) you find that that the ratings following where you decided to stop are inaccurate, petty, and irrational... but of course you would stop where it supports your ludicrous position... you are the biggest joke of a mod I've ever seen... let sniffie back in here so we can get a fair ruling... how bout that?
BGtheBrain wrote:@JL: Rather than blindly commenting here, why dont you acknowledge that I actually did something. I looked at ratings, and found them to be justified.
I looked at 11 ratings. 9 were justified, 2 were abuse.
sirgermaine wrote:rhp 1 wrote:really? you "stopped wasting your time" hahaha... ok.. well... if you kept investigating (pretty sure that's why you're a mod) you find that that the ratings following where you decided to stop are inaccurate, petty, and irrational... but of course you would stop where it supports your ludicrous position... you are the biggest joke of a mod I've ever seen... let sniffie back in here so we can get a fair ruling... how bout that?
If you are certain that the ratings past where he checked are ridiculous, then show the following ones with annotations, like he did. You are asking someone to get an official penalty; you might do some official work for it.BGtheBrain wrote:@JL: Rather than blindly commenting here, why dont you acknowledge that I actually did something. I looked at ratings, and found them to be justified.
I looked at 11 ratings. 9 were justified, 2 were abuse.
Ah, but you didn't agree so clearly you must just not be any good at your job, right?
BGtheBrain wrote:If I remember correctly, you appealed and lost because, well, you were abusing the ratings system
You provided me with the examples in that thread yourselfrhp 1 wrote:what? ru fucking serious you goofball... can't believe i'm even commenting on this, but alas.. here I am... you're a dork and why are you taking up space for such frivolous nonsense... get a life you loser...
for a commentary on how serious I take ratings (which are a joke btw) many of my 1 star ratings are for my closest CC friends... case in point.. Louie92, Clapper011, chuckD, Culs, Pixar (now that's irony if i've ever heard of it), lanyards just to name a few... just to name a few all got 1 star across the board..... funny players who are far superior to you couldn't care less.. though i'm sure if I gave you poor ratings they were honest and accurate...I'm sorry your life is so pitiful that you find it necessary to take the time to cry all over CC's forum... I'll send you a tissue when I get a chance...
BGtheBrain wrote:If I remember correctly, you appealed and lost because, well, you were abusing the ratings system
You provided me with the examples in that thread yourselfrhp 1 wrote:what? ru fucking serious you goofball... can't believe i'm even commenting on this, but alas.. here I am... you're a dork and why are you taking up space for such frivolous nonsense... get a life you loser...
for a commentary on how serious I take ratings (which are a joke btw) many of my 1 star ratings are for my closest CC friends... case in point.. Louie92, Clapper011, chuckD, Culs, Pixar (now that's irony if i've ever heard of it), lanyards just to name a few... just to name a few all got 1 star across the board..... funny players who are far superior to you couldn't care less.. though i'm sure if I gave you poor ratings they were honest and accurate...I'm sorry your life is so pitiful that you find it necessary to take the time to cry all over CC's forum... I'll send you a tissue when I get a chance...
rhp 1 wrote:begbeisan.... accused join ALL 46 games, 46! accuser won 19 out of the 46... and left one star across the board? lol
photohippie... 7 games played accuse is 4-3, photohippie quit last rounds in trench to SPEED GAME UP.... 1 star across the board
nicescott... missed 1 turn and said "well played" in chat... 1 star across the board, tagged deadbeat
ivanbuba.... accuser lost 2 outta 3 head to head... 1 star across the board
irosaro... accuser is 8-8 against... 1 star across the board.. tagged deadbeat, quitter...
PSU86... accuser is 6-6 against... 1 star across the board... all games started by PSU and joined by accuser...
Culs de Sac... 1 star across the board... nothing more needed here...
angarali.... missed last turn... 1 star across the board.. tagged deadbeat
Doc Dice.... missed last turns in trench game to speed it up... 1 star across the board... chat shows player was willing to finish, but knew it would be faster to concede... accuser not aware of how trench setting behaves at end of games apparently
BGB... I know you don't like to admit when you're wrong.. who does? but do your job dude.. it's my job to go through this? ahem...no... it's yours... nobody did all this shit when i was accused, and you had no problem clicking on my 'ratings left' and warning me without actually looking at the games... maybe if you would have done what i've done here, you would see how that ruling was wrong as well...
btw... this is in addition to the the two ratings YOU classified as abuse; limbo, and myself...
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