CraziE-L-V-I-S bigotry [banned] OP [banned] BG

by **bhamade** on Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:34 pm

Accused: CraziE-L-V-I-S

215995

The accused are suspected of:

Using the word faggot in a chat.

Game number(s):

Game 11326442

by **DJPatrick** on Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:02 am

Okay "Faggot" seems to be the BAD word around CC right now but shyyte your game chat leaves a lot to be desired...calling your opponent a pussy and concentrating on your own penis does not apparently invoke the same opprobrium so tghe reincarnation of Elvis will face the consequences...interesting tho that with five weeks on the site you not only knew where to place your outrage but also enough to know just which were the "bad bits" to report (and enough to win that three-hander) ...could be just a co-incidence...could be but doubt it...

by **Dibbun** on Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:27 am

2012-07-02 19:48:03 - bhamade: it must suck to lose to a faggot

You should get a warning as well bhamade.

by **bhamade** on Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:35 am

Dibbun wrote:2012-07-02 19:48:03 - bhamade: it must suck to lose to a faggot

You should get a warning as well bhamade.

I was calling myself what he called me. I didn't use it against anyone or to show homophobia. I actually have gay friends and take the word seriously.

by **Dibbun** on Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:34 am

bhamade wrote:
Dibbun wrote:2012-07-02 19:48:03 - bhamade: it must suck to lose to a faggot

You should get a warning as well bhamade.

I was calling myself what he called me. I didn't use it against anyone or to show homophobia. I actually have gay friends and take the word seriously.

I love it when people justify their actions by saying they have black/gay/whatever friends. It brings joy to my heart.

You are correct in that context matters. For instance, quoting what you said in this relevant thread in this relevant forum will not attract a warning for me.

However, in what context are you using it? Maybe, just maybe, if you had said "Hey man just so you know using "faggot" is disallowed and you can get warned for it." then you would have an acceptable context case. Maybe. But you used it in an insulting phrase, taunting your opponent.

Bigotry includes racism, sexism, ageism, homophobia/sexual orientation bashing, religion bashing, lack of religion bashing, or wishing violence on any group of people, etc.
Bigotry takes into account historic events, emotional baggage and generally accepted associations with a term, phrase or intent - posting "White Power" in a topic has a history and is bigoted, posting "Green Power" makes you an environmentalist.

Bigotry will get your post edited/deleted and you will receive a disciplinary action from a mod. Bigotry, just avoid it. Just do it.

Think about it: without his initial use of the word, and you said what you said, don't you think you would get warned for it? The self-deprecating defense doesn't really hold water since someone cannot throw around the n-word in games then upload a screenshot showing that they're black in order to try to avoid a warning. That would just be ridiculous.

I think the worst part, and what makes your offense even worse than what your accuser did, is that you absolutely knew that the word is disallowed, and you apparently express loyalty to the spirit of the rule, yet you still used it in an insulting phrase. At least your accuser can claim ignorance (not that it would help him) but you tried to one-up him by somehow thinking that you could use a word because you "have gay friends" (lol) and because he apparently has no gay friends he cannot use it.

This is true discrimination - to say one type of person can say a word but another cannot, and is a reason why the bigotry guidelines are so strict, because CC doesn't want to have to determine who should or should not be allowed to use inflammatory language like "faggot." Bigotry - just avoid it.

by **The Voice** on Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:08 am

DJPatrick wrote:Okay "Faggot" seems to be the BAD word around CC right now but shyyte your game chat leaves a lot to be desired...calling your opponent a pussy and concentrating on your own penis does not apparently invoke the same opprobrium so tghe reincarnation of Elvis will face the consequences...interesting tho that with five weeks on the site you not only knew where to place your outrage but also enough to know just which were the "bad bits" to report (and enough to win that three-hander) ...could be just a co-incidence...could be but doubt it...

He knows because he was only just recently warned for using the same word.

bhamade wrote:I actually have gay friends and take the word seriously.

Again, had you not just been warned for using that word, I might have believed this. Nonetheless, you can rest assured the accused will be warned.

by **Symmetry** on Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:49 pm

Rubbish. Either he intended the word "faggot" as an offense, or he didn't.

He did. This is accepted.

Either he didn't know it was a homophobic insult or he didn't.

He knew, and was warned about it before.

The case for the defense is that he either didn't know it was a homophobic insult, or that he can say it to other players as long as he has gay friends.

Hmm.