hate doing this....possible multi UlgarVonUlric[Cleared]SN

[L M S]

[BigImg][/BigImg]Accused:

UlgarVonUlric

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis

Game number(s):

Game 11073933

Comments: I really hate doing this but for a guy with only 26 games under his belt and ZERO wins coupled with 2 (including this game) trench games played, not to mentioned this account joined in 2009...he sure seems to understand the finer points of the game(play).
I'm just suspicious is all.

I HOPE I'M WRONG.

[MNDuke]

To be honest I didn't think much of it at first, but the tone of his game chat, and then after looking at the game/settings and his gameplay, you might be right. I would say to question it, is definitely fair. If anything, this looks to be an original account and not his hammer.

[L M S]

To be honest I didn't think much of it at first, but the tone of his game chat, and then after looking at the game/settings and his gameplay, you might be right. I would say to question it, is definitely fair. If anything, this looks to be an original account and not his hammer.

I agree with you Duke.

[Master Kai]

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Kai's Public Service Board
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Accused: UlgarVonUlric
Allegation: Multi Violation

Evidence:
1. Game types uncommon for new players.
2. Date joined.

Findings/comments:
1. Game Types uncommon for new players.
-Just taking a quick look at this, it looks like he may have gotten some good dice right off and got some help from green, when green went after you.
-Also looking at his games history, he's playing with cooks and other new players, and losing.
-His map choices are fairly random.
-His map settings are peculiar for a new player, as most new players don't know about manual, freestyle, etc....On the other hand, most of those games he initially joined, an easy mistake made by new players hitting the Join A Game button.
-There doesn't seem to be a pattern of playing with any particular player.

2. Date joined
-If he has only completed 26 games since September 28, 2009, and playing as a freemium his 4 games, then this could elude to him not having enough experience to understand "the finer points" as L M S has explained. It might also suggest that he is actively playing again.

Discussion
I don't really see how the evidence provides enough to make a conclusion that this player is a multi. While I understand your suspicion, If he did gain a tactical advantage by playing another account prior to opening this one, he has yet to gain much from it. But because we are not privy to the tools available to hunters, this opinion is only provided based on the information available to the Board.

There is a possibility that this player is a multi. For example this player may no longer be playing another account. Again, there is no evidence available yet to make this conclusion.

Decision
It is the suggestion of this board that UlgarVonUlric be cleared of the allegation pending the outcome of the multi-hunter's investigation.

[L M S]

____________________
Kai's Public Service Board
____________________
Accused: UlgarVonUlric
Allegation: Multi Violation

Evidence:
1. Game types uncommon for new players.
2. Date joined.

Findings/comments:
1. Game Types uncommon for new players.
-Just taking a quick look at this, it looks like he may have gotten some good dice right off and got some help from green, when green went after you.
-Also looking at his games history, he's playing with cooks and other new players, and losing.
-His map choices are fairly random.
-His map settings are peculiar for a new player, as most new players don't know about manual, freestyle, etc....On the other hand, most of those games he initially joined, an easy mistake made by new players hitting the Join A Game button.
-There doesn't seem to be a pattern of playing with any particular player.

2. Date joined
-If he has only completed 26 games since September 28, 2009, and playing as a freemium his 4 games, then this could elude to him not having enough experience to understand "the finer points" as L M S has explained. It might also suggest that he is actively playing again.

Discussion
I don't really see how the evidence provides enough to make a conclusion that this player is a multi. While I understand your suspicion, If he did gain a tactical advantage by playing another account prior to opening this one, he has yet to gain much from it. But because we are not privy to the tools available to hunters, this opinion is only provided based on the information available to the Board.

There is a possibility that this player is a multi. For example this player may no longer be playing another account. Again, there is no evidence available yet to make this conclusion.

Decision
It is the suggestion of this board that UlgarVonUlric be cleared of the allegation pending the outcome of the multi-hunter's investigation.

First of all, who the hell are you?
Second of all, I could care less if I lose points or not to him (or anyone else). Its pretty obvious by looking at my current game choices that I am just hunting the trench medal and believe me, I expect to lose plenty of points.
Third, no one asked you for your opinion so shut up with your attempts at (lame) humor or you attempts at (fail) being a mod.
Fourth, I don't give a rats ass what you think based on your interpretation of the 'evidence'. I am the one actually playing the game with the guy and from what I have seen, he plays beyond his means. AND, since I have played 9000 more games than you MK, I think that I am entitled to my query based on experience....come talk to me when you have cracked the 1000 mark.
Lastly, did you not read the fucking part where I wrote that I hoped he was cleared?

go away dude and let the professionals do their work....they certainly require nor have requested any help from your dumb ass.

[agentcom]

First of all, who the hell are you?
Second of all, I could care less if I lose points or not to him (or anyone else). Its pretty obvious by looking at my current game choices that I am just hunting the trench medal and believe me, I expect to lose plenty of points.
Third, no one asked you for your opinion so shut up with your attempts at (lame) humor or you attempts at (fail) being a mod.
Fourth, I don't give a rats ass what you think based on your interpretation of the 'evidence'. I am the one actually playing the game with the guy and from what I have seen, he plays beyond his means. AND, since I have played 9000 more games than you MK, I think that I am entitled to my query based on experience....come talk to me when you have cracked the 1000 mark.
Lastly, did you not read the fucking part where I wrote that I hoped he was cleared?

go away dude and let the professionals do their work....they certainly require nor have requested any help from your dumb ass.

This is kind of how C&A works. People come in and take a look at things and/or express their opinions. You said you hoped they would be cleared, MK provided evidence to help you get your wish. I would be very surprised if he expected this kind of response. I know I didn't when I saw that you had responded to his post.

[Master Kai]

L M S, click on my profile and check games played together. LOL. We've played a few games together with some familiar faces! Agent, my guess is he's been drinking. No offense taken as I haven't seen this from him before. My only experience with him is in the games, and he's been upstanding and clearly very skilled as well.

- Cheers guys.

edit:
Not a bash, no insinuation, just talking it out. In skype with Ryan if you want to join.

edit:
response from Ryan, "howdy from WY fucker." Not my words, apologize for the language.

[L M S]

Well, then his delivery needs some serious tweaking because it rubbed me the wrong way.
Does he, you, anyone, really believe that I didn't consider all that shit before posting this?
So his reply is either a worthless recap of all the shit I already considered, thus adding not a damn thing to the conversation....or a bash on me for trying to get a player kicked out of a game he will probably win otherwise, insinuating that be the primary reason for my query.

Edit: (add)

Trust me when I say that I know what its like to be dragged through the mud in the C&A forums...it fucking sucks and no amount of humility, grace or time makes it any less painful or residually (don't think that is a real word ) forgettable.
I will not be posting again in the public forums again regarding suspicious behavior for that and this (threads') reason....I'll either just keep it to myself or do it privately and save everyone the trouble.

[L M S]

not a bash, just talking it out. In skype with Ryan if you want to join.

tell my brother I said hi.

[agentcom]

I don't know where the reply I just wrote went ... but it seems apparent that I've walked into something that I don't fully comprehend. I'll just sit this one out.

[TheForgivenOne]

I'm locking this until a verdict is reached. and Master Kai, your edits weren't necessary.

[sniffie]

UlgarVonUlric is cleared from the multiple account accusation.