Crazys Superhero Mafia! Game Over! Villains Win!

[Some7hingCLEVER]

First off, I do know clever. He also told me something he shouldnt have that conflicts with why he wasnt here (not his role, his reasoning for not being here). I will not post that information as it could screw the game over and I would rather be replaced then do that. SG7 is obviously a superhero. His character kills with a touch as opposed to CLEVER inventing things to make him seem superhuman. Therefore, SG7 IS a superhero. Im defending him because he was silenced and cant defend himself. Maybe since he wont be silenced tomorrow he will tell us more, but why pressure a guy who will get lynched because he only has two posts and cant defend himself after that. Let him have a night and defend himself tomorrow.
And next, this was not a subconcious slip as I said I did not confirm it, and that I dont see why betiko keeps pressuring him with no case. I believe its sidetracking the game because he wants Crown lynched. I will scream that you are defending clever, as clever said himself that he doesnt know how else to prove his innocence while he lets you defend him and wont give us his other roles.

Fastposted- Agreed with your first part, and I think that he should be lynched...

-Either you say what you have to say either you don't even bring it up please. You know something about clever from real life, can't tell what it is exactly so we should just take it for granted?
-in what way is there no case on the crown, are you blind? either you don't believe me, which is fine, either you do; but in both scenarios I've put my ass on the line and I have guaranteed he is scum because i have intel. It's me or him. Might be a case you don't like, but there is one.
-how could you confirm you are masoned with the crown??? I just said that it was a possibility and I brought it up for the 1st time. You answer that you never confirmed it was true?? sounds like you are half saying it is as you don't deny it.

i just remembered what i said and it really isnt anything major or anything worth even mentioning but if you guys want me to i will .

[new guy1]

Fine, know what? I confirm that I am Crown's mason partner. Now focus on someone else.

[Leehar]

If you keep mentioning it, ofc we'd want to know what it was...

and d'oh

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other idea, NG1 watches me for protection and both trackers watch NG1. no town with a night role get any close to NG1, so the tracker can tell us if a scum tried something on him. Same for me, no one else from town but NG1 gets close to me.
If one of both trackers is night killed, most likely the other one is scum.
So would we be lucky enough to have clever + crown + a tracker as our scum trio? would be quite lucky, only crown is a sure thing, and to be honest I don't know what to think about clever, but it seems unlikely that he's telling the truth. He might just be a third party..

A tracker is not a watcher... Both of us can track NG all you want, and that does nothing to help him, since we only see who he targets.

[betiko]

Fine, know what? I confirm that I am Crown's mason partner. Now focus on someone else.

ok, so can you confirm your entire role then? and what do you know about your partner, do you know his alignement?
Did he make you claim at the begining of day 1 that you saw these 3 players around SG7?
you do realize that if you are town mason he has been manipulating you?

and.. go focus somewhere else, are you kidding???? just found a goldmine!! Although it all seems a bit easy. Don't know if I should beleive all this.

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[jgordon1111]

I did forget about crazy's post... still dont like the fact that a TOWN JOAT would have a silencing ability... and I did not confirm that I am masoned with crown... I just believe there is no case on him whatsoever and you are sidetracking any good cases with "well he could be scum, BUT CROWN DEFINATLY IS.

The mental slip I was talking about NG1 is the last line where you say crown is definetley scum.

And I dont know now what to think about anyone, 3 possible trackers a possible joat(town) who is not certain of himself. Crown and NG1 masoned betiko seems to think he has him dead to rights.

This is why I asked all of you to quit claiming. Now we are at 3 to 4 or more possible mafia,not possible and be balanced,so something is wrong here.

Why on earth, oh well never mind crap.

[jgordon1111]

see what the hell happens when you force more claims when you have targets that havent been confirmed. This is why I asked for everyone to stop.

[new guy1]

Zan ,Town Mason, Watcher, I am a wondertwin for those of you who are not familiar. And I do not know my mason partner's role, but he said that he had no other role besides mason. And I am confirming that the RL knowledge does not disrupt the game too much and if it does I am getting replaced. It does not make much difference as I am not using the information in the game.

[new guy1]

Confirmed that it is not very disruptive and so it is to be ignored. I will not be replaced and so move on from it.

[jgordon1111]

new guy 1 why did you just do that please? each time I say something about people not claiming you push for more claims or now have claimed yourself,why? crown didnt have lynch votes on him.

But in regards to clever you say that per a conversation you had with him you didnt think he was scum and yet you have pushed for his claim from day 2.

There is fault in that logic.

In essence what your saying is you know why he didnt post and it helped strengthen his case,but you dogged him into a claim for no reason.

I call BS on that logic and its concept therefore betiko may be right about you and crown.

[jgordon1111]

sorry was outraged by the previous logic and whats been going on unvote clever vote crown

[crazymilkshake5]

Confirmed that it is not very disruptive and so it is to be ignored. I will not be replaced and so move on from it.

This has been confirmed by the mod. just thought i'd say something.

[new guy1]

WTF. Reguarding claiming, Betiko wanted a full claim, gave it to him. JG, I pushed for him before said conversation, used the innactivity I knew about which was posted in the vacation forum, rejected, and in essense Im saying the innactivity issue which I knew a little more info about but which cannot be proven, was rejected, therefore making me look like I was making a case on faulty logic, improving his case. Therefore, that is not BS logic, you are just painting me in a bad light JUST LIKE SG7. Hes not an SK, might be a cult but is not activated. Therefore, you are just trying to sum things up in bad sounding ways.

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[jak111]

1.jgordon1111
2.Some7hingCLEVER - JOAT (used silence ability)
3.shieldgenerator7 - Unknown power? Wanderer?
4.new guy1 - Crown's Mason partner, Watcher
6.thehippo8 - Tracker
7.TheCrown - New Guy's Mason partner
8.Leehar
9./ - Tracker
10.Betiko
11.Jak111
12.skillfusniper33

Hmm, there's a few things I've noticed. I can prove New Guy wrong about the superhero part of this game. Though what really interests me is what can Betiko give that says Crown is mafia, two people confirming each other as town buddies is hard to break. Especially when one is confirmed Watcher. As for New Guy, where is this information about CLEVER that you love talking about, love complaining about, yet don't have the balls to speak about it?

If Betiko can do this, and New Guy can't say his reason, I am willing to bet New Guy and Crown are fake claiming mason.

Hmm, my query for the yesterday incident is that SG7 was soo close to a lynch and then the day ended at L2 and he doesn't even know his allignment. This issue must be pushed for tomorrow.

Another major thing that's seemed to die down is the pressuring of the 2 claimed tracker roles... Where did this go? One is obviously a fake claim, so let's get their names out in the open before they have time to think of fake name claims as well.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

new guy 1 why did you just do that please? each time I say something about people not claiming you push for more claims or now have claimed yourself,why? crown didnt have lynch votes on him.

But in regards to clever you say that per a conversation you had with him you didnt think he was scum and yet you have pushed for his claim from day 2.

There is fault in that logic.

In essence what your saying is you know why he didnt post and it helped strengthen his case,but you dogged him into a claim for no reason.

I call BS on that logic and its concept therefore betiko may be right about you and crown.

i guess i can agree that he helped make me claim but i would like to dually note that he was not the only one who voted for me to force me to claim which included you jgordon.

fastposted.
i think i mentioned that nobody was talking about the trackers anymore. actually im pretty sure i got mad about it.

[crazymilkshake5]

Offical Vote Count

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Some7hingCLEVER-L4 (/, SG7)
jgordon1111-L5 (jak111)
Thehippo-L5 (Leehar)
thecrown-L5 (jgordon111)

Not Voting-6 (Some7hingCLEVER, Thehippo8, thecrown, Betiko, Jak111, skillfulsniper33)

Deadline is April 11th at around 12 (noon)

As for New Guy, where is this information about CLEVER that you love talking about, love complaining about, yet don't have the balls to speak about it?

This has been dealt with. It is of no importance to the game.

[new guy1]

I will give the information if you want it, though it is not life threatening. I dont love speaking about it, in fact I want it to be silenced as it is unnessary. And yes Betiko, what do you have on Crown as I want to know who Im working with.

fastposted X2- Good point Clever

[Some7hingCLEVER]

I will give the information if you want it, though it is not life threatening. I dont love speaking about it, in fact I want it to be silenced as it is unnessary. And yes Betiko, what do you have on Crown as I want to know who Im working with.

fastposted X2- Good point Clever

look to anyone who keeps asking about this info it was about what i did outside of the mafia game and has little to nothing to do with a mafia game in general. so please can we just drop it im getting a little annoyed. thanks

[jgordon1111]

WTF. Reguarding claiming, Betiko wanted a full claim, gave it to him. JG, I pushed for him before said conversation, used the innactivity I knew about which was posted in the vacation forum, rejected, and in essense Im saying the innactivity issue which I knew a little more info about but which cannot be proven, was rejected, therefore making me look like I was making a case on faulty logic, improving his case. Therefore, that is not BS logic, you are just painting me in a bad light JUST LIKE SG7. Hes not an SK, might be a cult but is not activated. Therefore, you are just trying to sum things up in bad sounding ways.

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Back to sg7 i said I thought possibly SK, I didnt know for sure thats why I didnt put my vote on him.

Let me go back and pinpoint this for you D2 you without knowing hippo or / roles out of the blue pinned clever as the silencer,because you say he has been inactive. Did you or did you not say this.

Therefore your conversation did not help his case as you say. instead you used it to push the one you are making against him. otherwise logic dictates you would not have picked him out as the silencer and keep pushing for a case against him.

Your whole case from D2 hinged on you saying clever was the silencer because of his inactivity.

So logic says you got something per your conversation that pointed to clever

fastposted by lots of people,yes clever I wanted to know what NG! seemed to already know as did a few others. But I am satisfied with you for the most part for now.

And have now calmed back down.

My point on this was NG1 knew why you hadnt been posting clever yet used your inactivity as the first focus to put votes on you.

I do not nor do I believe anyone else needs to know why you were not posting.

[new guy1]

I used cases from what was happening in game. Drop it. I pointed towards him as silencer cause I didnt read the vacation forum, therefore, I used information that I knew he was innactive to say hes innactive and put my vote on him. Therefore, I never pointed at him as the silencer. I do remember that I took my vote off of him because I believed his claim and then... wasnt it YOU who started talking about him as a silencer because it wasnt likely that a JOAT would have that role? What Im trying to say is that your case that I am using outside info is unproven and faulty. Just stop please.

[jgordon1111]

I used cases from what was happening in game. Drop it. I pointed towards him as silencer cause I didnt read the vacation forum, therefore, I used information that I knew he was innactive to say hes innactive and put my vote on him. Therefore, I never pointed at him as the silencer. I do remember that I took my vote off of him because I believed his claim and then... wasnt it YOU who started talking about him as a silencer because it wasnt likely that a JOAT would have that role? What Im trying to say is that your case that I am using outside info is unproven and faulty. Just stop please.

I am done with it NG1.

No it wasnt me with the joat thing either though.

Clevers private life is none of our business.

As I said earlier I am not sure of anyone at this point, so I will let you or betiko lead and try and make sense out of all this.

This is why I say reading and watching,but this is out of control somebody step forward and get this right.

[new guy1]

Im sorry for having a hissy fit with you JG. I wish it did not happen, hope to work it out with you, but if you have complaints just go ahead and mail me and we can work it out.

[betiko]

ok fantastic guys, we are making huge progress in here!

about the flavour of the wonder twins:
Powers and abilities

The Wonder Twins powers are activated when they touch each other and speak the phrase, "Wonder Twin powers activate!" This phrase is unnecessary and just a habit of theirs. Physical contact, however, is required. If the two are out of reach of each other, they are unable to activate their powers. As they are about to transform, they would each announce their intended form. "Shape of...", "Form of..."

Zan can transform into water at any state (solid, liquid, gas) and add to his mass by incorporating water in his immediate area. In the case of becoming solid ice, he can also become any form he chooses, from a 5,000 foot humanoid ice giant to a cage for a criminal to complex machinery (such as a rocket engine[citation needed]). He changes into a gelatinous form at one point. On another occasion, he transformed into liquid nitrogen. In addition, he can transform himself into atmospheric disturbances involving water, such as a blizzard, a monsoon, or a typhoon.

Jayna can transform into any animal, whether real, mythological, indigenous to Earth or to some other planet, like Beast Boy, so long as she knows the common name. She has been known to take the form of anything from an ant to a whale.

In the Super Friends comic book, their powers were shown to be more extensive. By transforming into an animal of Kryptonian origin, for instance, Jayna could gain both the creature's natural abilities and the super-powers that all Kryptonians possess under Earth-like conditions; she was even capable of overpowering Superman in the form of a Kryptonian animal.[5] Similarly, Zan was able to transform into anything tangentially related to water or ice, including a frost giant.

In addition to their powers of transformation, the two share a telepathic link, enabling one to alert the other over a distance when in dire circumstances.

The Wonder Twins have a pet Space Monkey called Gleek who had a useful prehensile tail and who could act as a conduit for the twins to activate their powers should they be out of reach. Gleek also served as a courier when the twins needed to travel: Jayna would typically transform into a large eagle, and Zan would transform into water, "jumping" into a bucket which Gleek would be holding while riding atop Jayna in her eagle form. (This led to the joke by some fans[citation needed] that Gleek's superpower was to make a bucket appear and disappear at will. See hammerspace.)



1.jgordon1111:
why mention Exxon when nothing was said about the wonder twins? are you gleek the space monkey? How could you come up with that and why are you so mad that new guy claimed to be the crown's mason partner?

2.Some7hingCLEVER:
claimed Max Smart (agent 86), JOAT, used the "cone of silence" as one of his abilities on SG7, seen by NG1 around SG7 on night 1

3.shieldgenerator7
claimed "the wonderer" with unknown alignment and unknown night action, visited / on night 1

4.new guy1
claimed Zan (wonder twins) mason with The Crown and town watcher. Watched SG7 on night 1 and saw the hippo, /, somethingclever

6.thehippo8
claimed to be tracker, seen by NG1 around SG7 on night 1


7.TheCrown
claimed Zayna (by deduction) mason with NG1. Was given a guilty result in betiko's night 1 investigation

8.Leehar
gave good arguments that lead betiko to investigate the crown on night 1

9./
claimed to be tracker, seen by NG1 around SG7 on night 1. was actually targeted by SG7 at the same time and was informed of it.

10.Betiko
softclaimed investigative role, investigated the crown on night 1 and came up with a "not town" result. the crown claiming he is 100% town.

11.Jak111
very little substance from this player. softclaimed his character is not a superheroe.

12.skillfusniper33
very little substance from this player.

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[jak111]

I do not nor do I believe anyone else needs to know why you were not posting.

I'm for one not pushing why he wasn't posting. I'm pushing New Guy on why he thinks CLEVER is Mafia. Either answer that or don't New Guy. Out of no where this real life issue is mentioned, I do not mean to sound rude, but please drop it when I am not asking about it, I am asking about why do you think CLEVER is mafia in this game.

Any other info besides that is just personal info I need nothing about. But if you're going to make a case on someone and beat around the bush on them expect to be questioned like I am questioning you now. What makes CLEVER seem scummy to you New Guy?

Fastposted, New Guy

I used cases from what was happening in game. Drop it. I pointed towards him as silencer cause I didnt read the vacation forum, therefore, I used information that I knew he was innactive to say hes innactive and put my vote on him. Therefore, I never pointed at him as the silencer. I do remember that I took my vote off of him because I believed his claim and then... wasnt it YOU who started talking about him as a silencer because it wasnt likely that a JOAT would have that role? What Im trying to say is that your case that I am using outside info is unproven and faulty. Just stop please.

I did forget about crazy's post... still dont like the fact that a TOWN JOAT would have a silencing ability... and I did not confirm that I am masoned with crown... I just believe there is no case on him whatsoever and you are sidetracking any good cases with "well he could be scum, BUT CROWN DEFINATLY IS.

Fast posted again by JG and New Guy, again, you pointed out that CLEVER should not have silence ability as JOAT, why?

Fast posted once more by betiko, Good points you have there bud, perhaps a sanity issue though? What's your hero's name? We might be able to find the sanity out and vote crown if you're sane

[new guy1]

Jak, Im not saying its impossible, Im saying I dont see why a town player would have that ability.