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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby SPARTACUS1974 on Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:38 am

You are Severus Snape ( Wizard Hunter )

You always had a fond for dark magic, soon recruited to the deatheaters in your youth,but you came to realize the true side you needed to be on when you joined Albus who had no respect for such magic.
So now you follow Albus' wishes and fight against the dark lord and his deatheaters.
green part.

my power is every other night i get moved around randomly with another wizard good and bad so if a deatheater tries to block us ,bus us , well any night activity i find out there roles.
the downside is as im using dark magic this is not good i can only use this info for a few times before i turn and go back to the dark side and rejoin the deatheaters.

the role can be very usefull to town if only for the first couple of nights to get info then after that before i turn you have to kill me i do not know the exact amount of times i can use this power but im guessing not to many between 2or3.

thats all i can say about my role without getting mod killed lol.


i suggest taking a look at the ones who are still screaming for a lynch.
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby thehippo8 on Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:53 am

SPARTACUS1974 wrote:You are Severus Snape ( Wizard Hunter )

You always had a fond for dark magic, soon recruited to the deatheaters in your youth,but you came to realize the true side you needed to be on when you joined Albus who had no respect for such magic.
So now you follow Albus' wishes and fight against the dark lord and his deatheaters.
green part.

my power is every other night i get moved around randomly with another wizard good and bad so if a deatheater tries to block us ,bus us , well any night activity i find out there roles.
the downside is as im using dark magic this is not good i can only use this info for a few times before i turn and go back to the dark side and rejoin the deatheaters.

the role can be very usefull to town if only for the first couple of nights to get info then after that before i turn you have to kill me i do not know the exact amount of times i can use this power but im guessing not to many between 2or3.

thats all i can say about my role without getting mod killed lol.


i suggest taking a look at the ones who are still screaming for a lynch.


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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby pancakemix on Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:04 am

Fairly large chunk of flavor text just got posted there. I think a modkill's about to go down.
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby everywhere116 on Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:46 am

pancakemix wrote:Fairly large chunk of flavor text just got posted there. I think a modkill's about to go down.

Why? It seems to me that he only posted his green text, and that's legal. Though what bothers me is that it seems that he has no control over his powers, and he admitted that he'll become a Death Eater in a couple days. A couple of days will almost surely go by in a game this size. He is as good as scum.

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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby Djfireside on Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:44 am

everywhere116 wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Fairly large chunk of flavor text just got posted there. I think a modkill's about to go down.

Why? It seems to me that he only posted his green text, and that's legal. Though what bothers me is that it seems that he has no control over his powers, and he admitted that he'll become a Death Eater in a couple days. A couple of days will almost surely go by in a game this size. He is as good as scum.

Vote Spartihar


You just seem to be headstrong on nailing someone up quickly. For the last few posts you have been pushing and even stating that while he is good now, you still want to go after him because later he will turn. Just trying to quickly make it into night? You Pushed off of Neb and your accusation while stating you hate to abandon a cross of words but switch to Leehar when the bandwagon moved and now pushing full on to get it.

Yes Snape may turn scum and that can be handled another day, for now there may be information. You seem way to to eager to get to night and get someone lynched and I tend to believe Spart (Leehar) in what was stated. Good side would love his information so Im taking you as not.

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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby Djfireside on Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:44 am

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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby dazza2008 on Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:52 am

SPARTACUS1974 wrote:You are Severus Snape ( Wizard Hunter )

You always had a fond for dark magic, soon recruited to the deatheaters in your youth,but you came to realize the true side you needed to be on when you joined Albus who had no respect for such magic.
So now you follow Albus' wishes and fight against the dark lord and his deatheaters.
green part.

my power is every other night i get moved around randomly with another wizard good and bad so if a deatheater tries to block us ,bus us , well any night activity i find out there roles.
the downside is as im using dark magic this is not good i can only use this info for a few times before i turn and go back to the dark side and rejoin the deatheaters.

the role can be very usefull to town if only for the first couple of nights to get info then after that before i turn you have to kill me i do not know the exact amount of times i can use this power but im guessing not to many between 2or3.

thats all i can say about my role without getting mod killed lol.


i suggest taking a look at the ones who are still screaming for a lynch.


So what useful info did you/Leehar recieve from night 1 if any?
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby strike wolf on Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:52 am

His claim doesn't even really fit character flavor.
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby dazza2008 on Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:55 am

dazza2008 wrote:
SPARTACUS1974 wrote:You are Severus Snape ( Wizard Hunter )

You always had a fond for dark magic, soon recruited to the deatheaters in your youth,but you came to realize the true side you needed to be on when you joined Albus who had no respect for such magic.
So now you follow Albus' wishes and fight against the dark lord and his deatheaters.
green part.

my power is every other night i get moved around randomly with another wizard good and bad so if a deatheater tries to block us ,bus us , well any night activity i find out there roles.
the downside is as im using dark magic this is not good i can only use this info for a few times before i turn and go back to the dark side and rejoin the deatheaters.

the role can be very usefull to town if only for the first couple of nights to get info then after that before i turn you have to kill me i do not know the exact amount of times i can use this power but im guessing not to many between 2or3.

thats all i can say about my role without getting mod killed lol.


i suggest taking a look at the ones who are still screaming for a lynch.


So what useful info did you/Leehar recieve from night 1 if any?


Sorry not what info but did you get any? Not wanting to out town powers. I just don't understand how your role works exactly.

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strike wolf wrote:His claim doesn't even really fit character flavor.


Does it not? Could be worth lynching him then. No?
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby pancakemix on Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:14 am

everywhere116 wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Fairly large chunk of flavor text just got posted there. I think a modkill's about to go down.

Why? It seems to me that he only posted his green text, and that's legal. Though what bothers me is that it seems that he has no control over his powers, and he admitted that he'll become a Death Eater in a couple days. A couple of days will almost surely go by in a game this size. He is as good as scum.

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Was not aware of that. Fair enough then.

Still seems like now either the mafia are going to avoid him like the plague and get rid of him when they deem him useless or try to get him on board.
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby pancakemix on Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:14 am

pancakemix wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:
pancakemix wrote:Fairly large chunk of flavor text just got posted there. I think a modkill's about to go down.

Why? It seems to me that he only posted his green text, and that's legal. Though what bothers me is that it seems that he has no control over his powers, and he admitted that he'll become a Death Eater in a couple days. A couple of days will almost surely go by in a game this size. He is as good as scum.

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Was not aware of that. Fair enough then.

Still seems like now either the mafia are going to avoid him like the plague and get rid of him when they deem him useless or try to get him on board.


ABWOP: Both are fairly dangerous for us, if you ask me.
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby everywhere116 on Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:25 am

Indeed.
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby Iron Butterfly on Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:00 am

unvote Leehar/Sparticus

Im sorry Im confused...do our votes from Leehar transfer to Sparticus or are we starting a fresh vote? If the Leehar votes still stand I am might suspicious of those trying to Hammer.

We have plenty of time to figure this out. For those who think Sparticus is lieing...gimme a break. He just got the role so I doubt he is making it up. While he could very well turn on us the big thing is that he can narrow down who is who. We have nothing to worry from him till for now.

Its a powerful role countered by its downside of him turning to the bad guys.
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby spiesr on Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:37 am

Iron Butterfly wrote:We have plenty of time to figure this out. For those who think Sparticus is lieing...gimme a break. He just got the role so I doubt he is making it up.
Well, if Leehar was lying then Sparticusv2 is forced into the position of having to find a way to continue from Leehar's lie. What exactly do you think he would do in such a circumstance?
SPARTACUS1974 wrote:my power is every other night i get moved around randomly with another wizard good and bad so if a deatheater tries to block us ,bus us , well any night activity i find out there roles.
the downside is as im using dark magic this is not good i can only use this info for a few times before i turn and go back to the dark side and rejoin the deatheaters.
Your explanation of how you role works is unclear at best, so let me get this straight.
You are saying that you are randomly assigned a target each night? Or do you mean alternating nights? You don't get to choose your target? Are you informed which player has been assigned as your target? Since overuse of this power is tied to your alignment, do you get to choose if you use this power or night, or is it forced?
What exactly do you do to your target anyway? Your description seems to say that you find out the role of anyone who targets your target. How does that work?
Was your power used last night?
strike wolf wrote:His claim doesn't even really fit character flavor.
I suppose it could be related to Occlumency or something.
SPARTACUS1974 wrote:hi all let me read through and i will post later ,
and to saf for someone who was supposed to protect the boy wizard and failed you and we have already lost another wizard in nyphadora you seem keen to get a quick lynch here aswell ?
SPARTACUS1974 wrote:i suggest taking a look at the ones who are still screaming for a lynch.
Djfireside wrote:You just seem to be headstrong on nailing someone up quickly. For the last few posts you have been pushing and even stating that while he is good now, you still want to go after him because later he will turn. Just trying to quickly make it into night? You Pushed off of Neb and your accusation while stating you hate to abandon a cross of words but switch to Leehar when the bandwagon moved and now pushing full on to get it.

Yes Snape may turn scum and that can be handled another day, for now there may be information. You seem way to to eager to get to night and get someone lynched and I tend to believe Spart (Leehar) in what was stated. Good side would love his information so Im taking you as not.
You guys are aware that in these games town lynches players during the day right? It is the only real weapon the town has usually. And that these lynches come about from players making and leading cases yes?
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby chapcrap on Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:44 am

So, he's going to end up being a Death Eater in the end either way? It started off sounding more like a third party thing, but if he's going to be a Death Eater either way by the end, why keep him around now?

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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby Iron Butterfly on Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:02 pm

chapcrap wrote:So, he's going to end up being a Death Eater in the end either way? It started off sounding more like a third party thing, but if he's going to be a Death Eater either way by the end, why keep him around now?

unvote vote SPART


Are you kidding? His power is everyother turn. He needs to use this power at least twice before he turns. He can help us NOW. For NOW he is a good guy. We can discover who is Town or Mafia..or at least one person. He can effectively discover TONIGHT who one of the assembled players in this game are with no fear.

The only folks who would be scared of this role are Deatheaters.

I find it interesting that those wanting his death are not adressing the short term benifits of helping Town.
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby everywhere116 on Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:25 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:
chapcrap wrote:So, he's going to end up being a Death Eater in the end either way? It started off sounding more like a third party thing, but if he's going to be a Death Eater either way by the end, why keep him around now?

unvote vote SPART


Are you kidding? His power is everyother turn. He needs to use this power at least twice before he turns. He can help us NOW. For NOW he is a good guy. We can discover who is Town or Mafia..or at least one person. He can effectively discover TONIGHT who one of the assembled players in this game are with no fear.

The only folks who would be scared of this role are Deatheaters.

I find it interesting that those wanting his death are not adressing the short term benifits of helping Town.

There are none. He has no incentive to help us if he knows he is going to flip to the Death Eater side anyway. He probably won't tell us what he will know, or will lie. And when he does turn to the Death Eaters, all that information he has becomes scum information. This includes people's roles.

He's too dangerous to be kept alive.
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby dazza2008 on Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:54 pm

everywhere116 wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:
chapcrap wrote:So, he's going to end up being a Death Eater in the end either way? It started off sounding more like a third party thing, but if he's going to be a Death Eater either way by the end, why keep him around now?

unvote vote SPART


Are you kidding? His power is everyother turn. He needs to use this power at least twice before he turns. He can help us NOW. For NOW he is a good guy. We can discover who is Town or Mafia..or at least one person. He can effectively discover TONIGHT who one of the assembled players in this game are with no fear.

The only folks who would be scared of this role are Deatheaters.

I find it interesting that those wanting his death are not adressing the short term benifits of helping Town.

There are none. He has no incentive to help us if he knows he is going to flip to the Death Eater side anyway. He probably won't tell us what he will know, or will lie. And when he does turn to the Death Eaters, all that information he has becomes scum information. This includes people's roles.

He's too dangerous to be kept alive.


I agree with this. He just needs to say each night he never used his power and hold on to the info. Then when he changes to death eater he can passit all on. We would probably lynch him anyway but it could be too late. All of this is if he is even telling the truth.
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby safariguy5 on Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:15 pm

SPARTACUS1974 wrote:hi all let me read through and i will post later ,
and to saf for someone who was supposed to protect the boy wizard and failed you and we have already lost another wizard in nyphadora you seem keen to get a quick lynch here aswell ?

Oh right, your original death was all my fault. I already said that I'd be willing to take the fall for the Nk, you bringing it up again does not advance the case at all.

I don't see how Snape turning to the Death Eaters makes any sense. By Book 7, he's headmaster of Hogwarts and already a Death Eater. Miller townie I might buy, but not this weird alignment shift thing.

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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby Bleed_Green on Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:14 pm

everywhere116 wrote:
I find it interesting that those wanting his death are not adressing the short term benifits of helping Town.

There are none. He has no incentive to help us if he knows he is going to flip to the Death Eater side anyway. He probably won't tell us what he will know, or will lie. And when he does turn to the Death Eaters, all that information he has becomes scum information. This includes people's roles.

He's too dangerous to be kept alive.[/quote]

I have to completely agree with this logic. I am trying to see how keeping him around for 1 more night to see what he uncovers could be useful but there are some many different scenarios that play out in my mind that end bad. For example:

1. Keep him alive and finds a deatheater, we lynch that person and turns out to be deatheater *great* now the next day we are thinking of lynch him but he comes back and says he found another mafia role but this time he has turned and we lynch one of us, at this point he has probably revealed another one of us to the deatheaters taking out 2 of us in one day...

To may possibilities!!!!Knowing that he will turn and not knowing when is not sitting well with me right now
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby Iron Butterfly on Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:50 pm

You guys crack me up.

Lets do some flavor. I have seen all the movies but I do not know the in depth details of lore. However I do know Hogwarts is a school of wizards that teaches all sorts of magic including the dark arts. All through the series I was always trying to figure out if Snapes was a good guy or bad guy..Its not till the very end that Snapes is proven to have made the greatest sacrifice. For good or ill he was a double agent that in the end provided Voldamorts downfall.

Several of you are playing the glass half empty argument, "He has no incentive to play nice because he will turn to a death eater"
If you say that then the oppisite is true as well..."He has every reason to help Hogwarts because he is good right now"

If he were to have no incentive to help Town then he would have no incentive to offer his downside to his power. He could have easily as not withheld that information. By giving us the downside to his role he has proven he has Towns best intersts for now.

No... I think he scares the Deatheathers because now they have to think twice about what happens with what they do. Snapes is a wild card who can discern who is who tonight.
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby chapcrap on Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:13 pm

First of all, Bleed_Green messed up this quote and I want to correct it:
Bleed_Green wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:I find it interesting that those wanting his death are not adressing the short term benifits of helping Town.

There are none. He has no incentive to help us if he knows he is going to flip to the Death Eater side anyway. He probably won't tell us what he will know, or will lie. And when he does turn to the Death Eaters, all that information he has becomes scum information. This includes people's roles.

He's too dangerous to be kept alive.


I have to completely agree with this logic. I am trying to see how keeping him around for 1 more night to see what he uncovers could be useful but there are some many different scenarios that play out in my mind that end bad. For example:

1. Keep him alive and finds a deatheater, we lynch that person and turns out to be deatheater *great* now the next day we are thinking of lynch him but he comes back and says he found another mafia role but this time he has turned and we lynch one of us, at this point he has probably revealed another one of us to the deatheaters taking out 2 of us in one day...

To may possibilities!!!!Knowing that he will turn and not knowing when is not sitting well with me right now

On to what IB said...
Iron Butterfly wrote:You guys crack me up.

Lets do some flavor. I have seen all the movies but I do not know the in depth details of lore. However I do know Hogwarts is a school of wizards that teaches all sorts of magic including the dark arts. All through the series I was always trying to figure out if Snapes was a good guy or bad guy..Its not till the very end that Snapes is proven to have made the greatest sacrifice. For good or ill he was a double agent that in the end provided Voldamorts downfall.

Next, if you aren't familiar with the lore, then don't try to act like you are. They do not teach the Dark Arts at Hogwarts. They teach defense against the Dark Arts.
Iron Butterfly wrote:Several of you are playing the glass half empty argument, "He has no incentive to play nice because he will turn to a death eater"
If you say that then the oppisite is true as well..."He has every reason to help Hogwarts because he is good right now"

If he were to have no incentive to help Town then he would have no incentive to offer his downside to his power. He could have easily as not withheld that information. By giving us the downside to his role he has proven he has Towns best intersts for now.

No... I think he scares the Deatheathers because now they have to think twice about what happens with what they do. Snapes is a wild card who can discern who is who tonight.

Why would he help town now if he will be turning into a Death Eater? Your logic makes no sense. The opposite does not have to be true and logically would not be true. He has no reason to help town if he's going to end up a Death Eater.
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby SPARTACUS1974 on Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:34 pm

ok for those who keep skimming and not reading my role works every other night .
and yes i have no control over this.

the wizards can use me for a few nights like i have said then you WILL have to lynch me or i turn to a deatheater which is no use to wizards or me. i say again or me .
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby thehippo8 on Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:40 pm

@ Iron ... very perceptive. There is always a tendency of town to do an Edward Scissorhands! It's SOOOO difficult, as Bobble says! But yeah, if he is for real and he says he is then he needs to give up a Deatheaters name or at least some clue so we don't suspect him of being a triple agent!!

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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby Iron Butterfly on Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:46 pm

I am not trying to act like I know the lore. I also do not hide behind it as some seem to be doing.

Sparticus is playing a game.

He is good right now. He says he must be killed if and win he turns. He says he can use his ability every other turn. We have at minimum four nights before he may turn, which would be evening 6. By evening 6 if no Mafia have been caught the game would be over by then....so its not like he is NOT a good guy.

The game could well be over before evening 6 So for all practical purposes he is Town.

I saw the movie. Snapes was the reason for Voldamorts downfall at the end.
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