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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby safariguy5 on Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:09 pm

thehippo8 wrote:@ Spiesr & Chap ... I did read "Hunter" but thought that was a flavour claim and not a role claim. Perhaps I was wrong there too! But my point remains that if he is really Snape then he is important, hence my unvote. But the more we chat and the less he responds, the bigger the hole he digs for himself!

Yes, hunter doesn't imply JOAT. Not sure exactly what it is, but it definitely isn't JOAT.

When we're talking about possible fakeclaims, I'd like to point out that mafia probably have a mix of prominent and less prominent characters for fakeclaims. While I know it borders on Meta, from a balance standpoint, it would make fakeclaims much less useful if every mafia fakeclaim was a secondary or peripheral character. So it stands to reason that some mafia members have important character fakes. So given the lack of clarity on the claim and the nature of the claim, I'm sticking with my vote.

I mean, think about it, how great a claim would it be as a fake? You have a perfect alibi for a possible guilty investigation on yourself, you can claim miller or hated townie or something and it fits the flavor perfectly.
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby thehippo8 on Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:29 pm

Well I agree ... and given a complete lack of response ... time to re-apply the pressure ... sovote Leehar
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby everywhere116 on Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:40 pm

Lack of response doesn't bother me. He's South African and on an almost diametrically opposed clock. The apathy, though....
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby alt1978 on Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:03 pm

I unvoted because I didn't want mafia to swoop in and drop the hammer on a key townie without hearing from leehar or giving him a chance to elaborate. Safari makes a good point about fake claims having fringe and central characters mixed in...a point I had not considered. With no further word from Leehar and a convincing amount of fake claim opinions, options, and configurations put out there...I think i am settled and comfortable voting Leehar. I just think a townie in that spot would have rushed to clear his name...and I don't see any urgency or rush.

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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby spiesr on Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:06 pm

alt1978 wrote:I just think a townie in that spot would have rushed to clear his name...and I don't see any urgency or rush.
Not sure if that logic really holds up. I mean, scum have just as much, if not more so, inherent desire to avoid being lynched.
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby strike wolf on Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:32 pm

Unvote

I do want to hear the full role and I'm not ready for him to be speed lynched (I believe less than 24 hours since his claim?). The claim is strong enough that I want to at least see if the ability is testable.
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby freezie on Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:16 am

Vote Count:

Safari(1): Chap

Neb(2): dazza, Leehar

L-3Leehar(6): Neb, Iron Butterfly, Everywhere, Safari, Hippo, Alt

With 16 alive, takes 9 to lynch.

If you need anyone prodded or something..I'll try to do it tomorow. Vote counts may be herratic starting from today while I clear up problems that seems to be piling faster than I can see them coming...Starting with my girlfriend..-.-
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby everywhere116 on Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:55 pm

herratic?
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby strike wolf on Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:59 pm

I think he means erratic. Well I thought i was putting him back at L-2. It's been well over a day at this point so just to put a little bit of pressure back on. vote Leehar
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby Leehar on Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:41 pm

I did have a whole draft I was writing up and that I saved before leaving Uni, but I realized with the amount of time I was putting into the defence, it was really not worth the effort anymore after the assignment I had to complete tonight and the project still due tomorrow, along with the 5 tests in 4 days next week, so that mafia's really not a priority for me right now. Everywhere hit it right on the head that I was apathetic, and the fact that my honesty at the beginning is what started these votes in the first place, it just ended up escalating my disenchantment. In that regard, I've sent a pm to Freezie asking to be replaced, and I'll probably ask the same from mob for my other remaining mafia game where it seems I'm in a similar position as here at l-2.
So yeah, you guys can either get rid of me to get going quicker or wait for a replacement who hopefully does a better job then me in being dedicated to the game ;)
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Thu Mar 22, 2012 6:47 pm

Leehar wrote:I did have a whole draft I was writing up and that I saved before leaving Uni, but I realized with the amount of time I was putting into the defence, it was really not worth the effort anymore after the assignment I had to complete tonight and the project still due tomorrow, along with the 5 tests in 4 days next week, so that mafia's really not a priority for me right now. Everywhere hit it right on the head that I was apathetic, and the fact that my honesty at the beginning is what started these votes in the first place, it just ended up escalating my disenchantment. In that regard, I've sent a pm to Freezie asking to be replaced, and I'll probably ask the same from mob for my other remaining mafia game where it seems I'm in a similar position as here at l-2.
So yeah, you guys can either get rid of me to get going quicker or wait for a replacement who hopefully does a better job then me in being dedicated to the game ;)


Really? Get in a tight spot, and bail? What a joke...
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby spiesr on Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:10 pm

Nebuchadnezer wrote:Really? Get in a tight spot, and bail? What a joke...
Upset that this may mean the attention comes back to you?
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby everywhere116 on Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:34 pm

Nebuchadnezer wrote:
Leehar wrote:I did have a whole draft I was writing up and that I saved before leaving Uni, but I realized with the amount of time I was putting into the defence, it was really not worth the effort anymore after the assignment I had to complete tonight and the project still due tomorrow, along with the 5 tests in 4 days next week, so that mafia's really not a priority for me right now. Everywhere hit it right on the head that I was apathetic, and the fact that my honesty at the beginning is what started these votes in the first place, it just ended up escalating my disenchantment. In that regard, I've sent a pm to Freezie asking to be replaced, and I'll probably ask the same from mob for my other remaining mafia game where it seems I'm in a similar position as here at l-2.
So yeah, you guys can either get rid of me to get going quicker or wait for a replacement who hopefully does a better job then me in being dedicated to the game ;)


Really? Get in a tight spot, and bail? What a joke...

He bailed in all his games.

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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:01 pm

spiesr wrote:
Nebuchadnezer wrote:Really? Get in a tight spot, and bail? What a joke...
Upset that this may mean the attention comes back to you?


haha...yah, whatever, spiesr...bring it.

More upset that he had "this great rebuttal all written up" and then decided to not put effort in. Seriously? He just had to tell us what the hell his role does? Copy the damn green part of his message. Anything!...but just give up? Nice.
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby safariguy5 on Thu Mar 22, 2012 9:55 pm

Well that doesn't help. I'm not convinced that the claim is real, and whoever replaces him needs to elucidate what exactly a "hunter" does. At this point, I'm willing to wait it out a bit to see if we have a replacement who can give a full roleclaim.
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby thehippo8 on Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:05 pm

I also am willing to wait. Sorry you are too busy Leehar, and I accept that it's temporary cause it's not like you to shirk! Never mind, next replacement better have something goog to say, though, because we're just not buying it!
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby freezie on Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:30 pm

currently seeking a replacement for Leehar. Asked Mob. Spartacus already sent me a pm saying he'd be willing to re-join in leehar's seat. So I'll wait for Mob's answer to come in first.
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby everywhere116 on Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:46 pm

MoB ain't comin' back.
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby spiesr on Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:58 pm

The question is how do you get someone to replace in a circumstance where there is this much heat on the person they are replacing and that the most likely thing to happen once they get in is that they get lynched that same (in game) day, through little fault of their own, becuase they are unable to adequately explain why Leehar did what he did. (Because they don't know what he was thinking anymore than we do.)
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby chapcrap on Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:59 pm

spiesr wrote:The question is how do you get someone to replace in a circumstance where there is this much heat on the person they are replacing and that the most likely thing to happen once they get in is that they get lynched that same (in game) day, through little fault of their own, becuase they are unable to adequately explain why Leehar did what he did. (Because they don't know what he was thinking anymore than we do.)

Don't really think that's a question when there is already a volunteer.

I'd say just accept SPARTACUS.
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby pancakemix on Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:25 pm

I really hate it when people get replaced when they're in such a tight spot. How can the person replacing them hope to defend themselves against the upcoming charges without being able to get into the head of who they replaced?
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby safariguy5 on Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:14 am

pancakemix wrote:I really hate it when people get replaced when they're in such a tight spot. How can the person replacing them hope to defend themselves against the upcoming charges without being able to get into the head of who they replaced?

I suppose we could just lynch him to keep it simple. I mean it wasn't like he was claiming doc or cop or something.
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby chapcrap on Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:16 am

safariguy5 wrote:
pancakemix wrote:I really hate it when people get replaced when they're in such a tight spot. How can the person replacing them hope to defend themselves against the upcoming charges without being able to get into the head of who they replaced?

I suppose we could just lynch him to keep it simple. I mean it wasn't like he was claiming doc or cop or something.

I'd like to at least try and find out the mechanisms of what a hunter is before deciding to lynch.
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby freezie on Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:40 am

Spartacus replaces Leehar. As much as I hate to do that..

I am with you there pancake. This is NOT the kind of replacement I like to do. I still have everywhere's game where I replaced in mind, too...

But, what must be done must be done..
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Re: Harry potter: The fight for freedom. Day 2. (16/18)

Postby SPARTACUS1974 on Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:46 am

hi all let me read through and i will post later ,
and to saf for someone who was supposed to protect the boy wizard and failed you and we have already lost another wizard in nyphadora you seem keen to get a quick lynch here aswell ?
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