And the winner is....
ghostly!
I find it odd that while a lot of the big arguments of the day were going on he was active and posting but said nothing about them. On the freezie wagon.. nothing, on mass claim.. nothing, on the clever lynch... nothing. All until one post well after the events had happened. Lets look at that post now:
ghostly447 wrote:I will actually come to Clevers somewhat a rescue here. L-3 is not normally something I feel is scummy, and nor is the fact that he jumped off and your reasoning for it. If he were mafia, he would have stayed put and hoped for someone else to be the target of suspicion, or at least held on long enough to drop off undetected (IE Freezie claiming a good town role and him not wanting to lynch that role).
So therefore, I think that the case you brought against him has ill logic and could easily just be worded correctly to make him sound like scum. Though he is not very new (been in several games already) I do not think he has learned very fast as to how to cover his tracks when he is scum (I got him lynched in 2 games this past few days by him getting mixed up in what he said, etc.).
So therefore, you can continue to pressure him with this, but I probably will not be behind your case, rather defending him until he slips up like he tends to do when he is mafia.
As for the PMC case you brought up, I do not think it is particularly scummy that he brought up a mass claim (except for I cant really see any use in it) but probably at least one person on the freezie wagon was scum. It would surprise me if there wasnt at least one on the wagon. But until he slips up more, maybe under applied pressure, I do not feel comfortable taking sides on this case.
So what were his opinions?
Clever - against lynch - agrees with current town majority now that it seems unlikely he will be lynched.
On mass claim- against mass claim but doesnt commit to me being scummy for it- agrees with town majority.
Freezue wagon - was suspicious probably one scum on there - agrees with consensus
So what is so bad with agreeing with the majority of the town? It's because he did it
after the fact despite being active at the time of the incidents. This makes him look very townie if you see his post but removes himself from dangerous commitments before anyone has said anything. In the entire thread he has cast suspicion on very few people and when he did his motives seem unclear.
ghostly447 wrote:Well I am not so quick to let things slide as most know. Nag, mind explaining why you are not so familiar with D1 randomness, etc? From what I hear you are basically a god at mafia so I find it hard to believe that you would forget your old tips and tricks.
This is his first time you appeared to suspect anyone and funnily enough its just OMGUS.
dazza2008 wrote:ghostly447 wrote:dazza2008 wrote:ghostly447 wrote:dazza2008 wrote:Just caught up. I had a busy weekend.
I also found the reason of Ghostly's joke vote a bit odd. I do realise it was a joke vote but to say it is because they are a good player seems pretty scummy to me.
Anyway I will unvote. Seems we have moved out of the joke stage.
I have been in other games where people say "Speedlynch 'insert amazing players name here' GOGOGO" And there is nothing but joke voting after.
FOS Dazza for looking far to deep into just another Joke Vote.
Unvote joke voting has been over awhile. Though due to Dazza and Nag's reaction Im not sure if I should try to dig up a case on them or not.
So because it is joke vote stage I should ignore the words you use? You said something that in my opinion sounded scummy. I never voted you or even FOSed I just noted it and will keep an eye on you.
So then when someone in other games says "Speedlynch this person GOGOGO" I see you tracking them at all times? NO. You are trying to give false pretenses to give you permission to suspect me of being mafia. And therefore my vote stands.
What vote?
ghostly447 wrote:The vote I could have sworn I put on you Dazza but will not bother with now..lol
This is a strange exchange, ghostly OMGUSs for the second time but then backs away quickly. It seems to be he wants to redirect the attention onto dazza and doesn't really believe in his own "vote".
ghostly447 wrote:What kind of idiot pick 7? I did! lol. And I got my second pick!
This is a bit of a weak point but it seems suspicious to me that the 14th drafted got their second pick, it seems you have a very different view of what is useful to the rest of the town.
As far as I am aware ghostly isn't that new of a player but he repeatedly acts like an air head, sorry if this is genuine but you seem to have gone a bit OTT with it.
ghostly447 wrote:edocsil wrote:ghostly447 wrote:I think I read that they could see who got the top roles, but could someone confirm the pmc didnt just now give us a hint of what the scum can see?
FOS ghostly. You should be able to clearly tell that we can all make educated guesses as to who got the best roles. Those at the top of the list, available to all.
Never played a game like this, I am still confused. sorry.
ghostly447 wrote:Guys I am a bit confused. What do you mean by "The top 5 players"? Lol. I feel stupid for asking.
ghostly447 wrote:Oh my god I need to remember this isnt the same setup. unvote. I am still getting confused every post.
So my main point is that he has been around but not offering much until we have decided things. He saw the wagon on freezie but said nothing until a few pages ago, we started talking about mass claims on page 5 he didn't mention them until a few pages ago. Yet he was around and freely able to OMGUS. He isn't interested in finding mafia, he is interested in protecting himself.
unvote vote ghostlyfastposted by freezie, I came to the conclusion Ragian was probably double voter as well. I didn't want to go down the route you just did as it makes it very hard to defend himself without claiming but it is a valid point.
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