HP: fight for freedom. Game over. Wizards won.

[Nebuchadnezer]

Okay, vote count is up. The problem is that whichever player has the most votes at the end of the deadline, dies. Meaning mafia don't actually have to do anything right now, and just watch SPARTICUS die (if he's town).

However, I think SPARTICUS has slipped up a few times, and either is mafia or isn't paying attention to details, which could hurt town later on. So, I'll make a commitment here...

UNVOTE VOTE SPARTICUS

[alt1978]

I had thought that a long time ago i had voted sparticus...but anyhow I will emphasize it again here.

Unvote...Vote Sparticus

I also still contend that if sparticus comes up scum...hippo should be looked at next.

[thehippo8]

sorry my role is like a commuter and animorphagus i can change apperance each night .
and saf that is what i was asking the mod if i could say what colour my role was wrote in and he said no it was not in the rules

I think you've all missed this post. The only animorphagus I am aware of is Sirius Black and he was killed in book five so I don't believe the claim.

unvote vote sparticus

And, what's that alt? Sorry I've been hard at work and missed 4 pages of posts but caught up now.

[SPARTACUS1974]

what do you want me to say the mod gave me my role it said wizard commuter then animorphagus if he has got that wrong its down to him what i have posted is what he sent me .
my night role says i can change my apperance at will to escape any night action.

[dazza2008]

I have just caught up. I got quite far behind due to the weekend.

I am pretty confused. I should not have joined this game lol. I know nothing about the books.

Seems strange that Sparticus claimed commuter then denied it.

unvote vote sparticus

[SPARTACUS1974]

like i said i got confused with commuter i just made a mistake but oh well not gonna start swearing for getting lynched but when i die take a look at the hippo he just jumps around voting and mc05 just comes and goes .
and take into account that the mod can make mistakes like my animorpagus when others are claiming . he might not have the same characters as you think .
and dazza if you go to wiki and look at harry potter it will give you all the info you need .

good luck wizards

[Iron Butterfly]

So am I to understand that we are using flavor to decide weather to hang someone? It seems that several folks are judging claims on weather they fit into Harry Potter lore. This is first and foremost a Mafia game NOT a Harry Potter game.

People are talking about teleporting and shape shifting like that some how will determime somthing. Who cares if Dobledoer or Dobby can teleport? Why is that important?

Our mod has made several simple mistakes so far with spelling and color and many have pointed the finger of doom at those on the receiving end.

Personally I dont beleive that the Mod has gone over his game with a fine tooth comb to make sure the lore al connects with each others roles to everyones hearts content.

With Sparticus I tend to beleive him...mistakes and all. I cant beleive people want to hang him because he said animorph instead of somthing else or that shapeshifting take practice or is hereditary? I played a recent game where I made a huge mistake with my role due to human error. I missread my Role and took the color for granted. I got hung for it. There was no defense for it but I was completely innocent.

We are not playing a Harry Potter game with Mafia lore people. The over anylizing to get roles to fit the universe is getting annoying and will work into the favor of Mafia if allowed to continue.

[Leehar]

^What he said^

I'm also inclined to believe Spartacus's role, and I'd just like to say to everywhere that

I was skeptical at first because protagonistic roles have the suffix "Wizard," not "Town".

that sparticus has it as a prefix, so thats not a given, but I hear you on the point that Saf seemed to rid himself of the Wizard part, tho his explanation does obviously make sense.

Btw, Unvote
Sorry Neb, I'm pretty bad at all this, so It's probably still a joke-vote carrying on.

Also, while there's still time left (2 days?) there's no need for a speedlynch just yet, so I'm inclined to keep an eye on all the bandwagoners on the Sparticus case. I can quite believe him when he says he doesn't really know what else to tell us, since I've been in that quandary before myself, specially with D1's, so if anybody can expand on what he should say in his defence, that can't hurt

[jonty125]

what else do you want me to say saf?
but with your claim its to big to fake so
unvote
and i you read the mods post he is saying he spelt the names wrong so my quote on role pm is true

Still could be a fakeclaim given to you by the mod. And really, a claimed commuter is more or less like a claimed VT. That and the flavor not really fitting the character in my mind is good enough for me to keep my vote.

who said i was a commuter?

It was you unvote vote spartacus

[freezie]

Personally I dont beleive that the Mod has gone over his game with a fine tooth comb to make sure the lore al connects with each others roles to everyones hearts content.

I am going to take offense in that. But I have said enough at this point. So go on with the game.

[mc05025]

So am I to understand that we are using flavor to decide weather to hang someone? It seems that several folks are judging claims on weather they fit into Harry Potter lore. This is first and foremost a Mafia game NOT a Harry Potter game.

People are talking about teleporting and shape shifting like that some how will determime somthing. Who cares if Dobledoer or Dobby can teleport? Why is that important?

Our mod has made several simple mistakes so far with spelling and color and many have pointed the finger of doom at those on the receiving end.

Personally I dont beleive that the Mod has gone over his game with a fine tooth comb to make sure the lore al connects with each others roles to everyones hearts content.

With Sparticus I tend to beleive him...mistakes and all. I cant beleive people want to hang him because he said animorph instead of somthing else or that shapeshifting take practice or is hereditary? I played a recent game where I made a huge mistake with my role due to human error. I missread my Role and took the color for granted. I got hung for it. There was no defense for it but I was completely innocent.

We are not playing a Harry Potter game with Mafia lore people. The over anylizing to get roles to fit the universe is getting annoying and will work into the favor of Mafia if allowed to continue.

I think I have to agree with Iron. I think you over do it by analyzing every simple detail of the Harry Potter books (because these details are only at the books which I have read but I do not even remember all these details) and I am pretty sure Freezie did not make such an acurate and good story as you think.

So I will take the risk to defend Spartacus even if that means that if he is guilty I will not be in a good position

On the other hand I started being tired with Hippo. Here is his action:

1) he suspect Neb and voted him
2) then Neb suspected me and vote me
3) Hippo stop suspecting Neb and trusting him by voting me too
4) I asked him if he does not suspect Neb and no answer received
5) Now he is suspecting and vote Spartacus even if he was defending him yesterday

So Hippo you have to decide who you are suspecting and who you are trusting and not chnge them every day.

vote Hippo

[Djfireside]

Im catching up on this as it appears the Lore has definately hit the fan, not sure the count but definately close. The main point that I am playing off of that is leaning me towards scum is when Spart first claimed he stated that it should be obvious what his role is, and I agreed that it should be based on the commuter title, being a bus driver. However then it started to twist, leaving out lore, I am not entirely sure I see the shape shifter fit into commuter. I may be taking the role out of context and leaving it as is I dunno. I have to read and will come back for vote but that is my point and need to catch up and get some work done.

[SPARTACUS1974]

wow we agree on something mc05 i also said in my last post to watch for hippo and you.
but as are not going for the kill with me this makes me think you are on the wizards side because if you were scum you could just sit back and let me die .ps mc05 you need to unvote first before you vote hippo.


as for you hippo you change your votes like the wind and you say i look scummy lol.
vote hippo

[mc05025]

I have already unote when you claimed

[Iron Butterfly]

Personally I dont beleive that the Mod has gone over his game with a fine tooth comb to make sure the lore al connects with each others roles to everyones hearts content.

I am going to take offense in that. But I have said enough at this point. So go on with the game.

We are not psychic here. So now we are all to assume that all the charachter roles should fit nice and neat? If we find any discrepencies we can now be safe to lynch? So everyones heart will now be content with the way everything should fall into place?

I wasnt trying to offend or insult I was just trying to state the obvious. Now that you have revealed that you take offense at my comment you have now put bias into the game.

Why would you even say that? Geez...

[thehippo8]

I have just caught up. I got quite far behind due to the weekend.

I am pretty confused. I should not have joined this game lol. I know nothing about the books.

Seems strange that Sparticus claimed commuter then denied it.

unvote vote sparticus

That was a lynch ... we can discuss other stuff tomorrow.

[SPARTACUS1974]

think you should re count hippo coz i got 8 votes and it takes 10 to lynch are you just skimming again

[Iron Butterfly]

I have just caught up. I got quite far behind due to the weekend.

I am pretty confused. I should not have joined this game lol. I know nothing about the books.

Seems strange that Sparticus claimed commuter then denied it.

unvote vote sparticus

That was a lynch ... we can discuss other stuff tomorrow.

Wow you really cant wait to get a lynch and into night it seems. Here you have an obvious submariner whos only comment before hand is a one sentence observation. You find nothing wrong with Dazza Hammering after submarining? Dazza should fefinately be in the hot seat for that.

What makes you so confident you will be around to discuss stuff tommorow? THAT I find funny. You certianly are a comfident you wizard. You must have some super spell of protection to assume you will be above the chaos of night one.

I dont for a moment beleive that it will be "sleepy time" at Camp Hogwarts tonight. You talk as if you will all wander into day two for tea and crumpets to discuss the lynch and the nights events with nary a care or scratch.

VOTE HIPPO

[thehippo8]

I have just caught up. I got quite far behind due to the weekend.

I am pretty confused. I should not have joined this game lol. I know nothing about the books.

Seems strange that Sparticus claimed commuter then denied it.

unvote vote sparticus

That was a lynch ... we can discuss other stuff tomorrow.

Wow you really cant wait to get a lynch and into night it seems. Here you have an obvious submariner whos only comment before hand is a one sentence observation. You find nothing wrong with Dazza Hammering after submarining? Dazza should fefinately be in the hot seat for that.

What makes you so confident you will be around to discuss stuff tommorow? THAT I find funny. You certianly are a comfident you wizard. You must have some super spell of protection to assume you will be above the chaos of night one.

I dont for a moment beleive that it will be "sleepy time" at Camp Hogwarts tonight. You talk as if you will all wander into day two for tea and crumpets to discuss the lynch and the nights events with nary a care or scratch.

VOTE HIPPO

Haha ... well that was a crew up by me. I misread freezie's 4 as an l4. That's a stupid error. No, I'm not wanting to rush to a lynch other than to lynch a death eater. Iron, why did you join this game if you don't take flavour into account?? This is a Harry Potter game through and through. Have another re-read of my reasons for voting sparticus. OMGUS to the votes on me!!

[strike wolf]

I have to say that the people who think this is all about role flavor speculation are missing most of the case and that is as much my fault as anything.

I'm not going to repeat the whole case but here are some general notes:

1. OMGus-Spartacus voted Safariguy for voting for him. He didn't even reference the green in role pm incident. The way he unvoted so quickly again without addressing anything that mod had mentioned about it almost seems like he was role fishing (sorry Molly Weasley is by no means a fool proof claim either).

2. Role Confusion-I'm sorry when you quote your role pm where it says your a commuter than get confused about being a commuter. That is fairly solid evidence of a slip (especially when you consider he read his role PM when he got it (at least I would assume) and then went back and looked at it again to quote the quotable part) and there's really not many characters in the books that I would consider a strong enough claims to give the benefit of the doubt on (probably only 5).

3. Character Fact- the argument of is Tonks an animorphagus is not role flavor it's character fact that she isn't. It could be a mistake by the mod as she is a metamorphagus but we have no evidence of that from teh green part of the role PM.

[SPARTACUS1974]

and like i said i made mistakes and so has the mod he gave me the animorphagus role but you are that blind you cant even contemplate that he has fooked up with this .
and you also think that you know what characters the mod has chosen well apart from the mod no one does i really do hope that after im dead you stop and think hard before lynching another wizard just because you are sure on what characters should be in this game

[alt1978]

Hippo was an early defender of sparticus. I think votes on hippo at this moment are misplaced...especially if sparticus comes up wizard. Maybe he knows something or saw something the rest of us did not. If sparticus turns up to be scum...then I think hippo's actions need to be analyzed from the beginning to see if there is a case there.
My vote on sparticus stands...i think it was scummy the way he jumped on the neb bandwagon, i think the quoting of the role as commuter (implied busdriver) only to later suggest something else (i'm still not exactly sure what)...combined with the "if you lynch me you will be sorry" defense doesn't add up for me. I don't think there's much choice in my mind to give this case a shot...if it goes poorly for the wizards there is certainly a lot to look at day two. If Sparticus is tonks the wizard...he was certainly given a tough role to pull off (confusing role and on the fringe of the story) and it would have taken no mistakes to come through clean (like not shifting positions on commuter).

[strike wolf]

and like i said i made mistakes and so has the mod he gave me the animorphagus role but you are that blind you cant even contemplate that he has fooked up with this .
and you also think that you know what characters the mod has chosen well apart from the mod no one does i really do hope that after im dead you stop and think hard before lynching another wizard just because you are sure on what characters should be in this game

Not sure. What I've been saying is there's a lot of room for fake claims. I believe I've even said the three who I think are pretty much guaranteed in the game but beyond those others are more arguable. Do I have beliefs about who might be in the game definitely but I've never claimed I believe which 17 roles other than my own are in the game.

[SPARTACUS1974]

look i give in i cant say any more to defend myself
my role did say wizard commuter then in green it said i was a animorphagus.
then in the bit i could not quote fully it said i was a animorphagus and could change my apperance to escape at night that is why i thought this was different from a commuter i was wrong .
look im at l1 i believe someone please hammer me cant keep pleading innocence and i will learn from this i have just finnished my second mafia so am new to this .

and again dont take the roles as they are in the books or movies because people do think differently and when you see i am a wizard you will have to change your whole gameplan and expect the unexpected

[Nebuchadnezer]

So am I to understand that we are using flavor to decide weather to hang someone? It seems that several folks are judging claims on weather they fit into Harry Potter lore. This is first and foremost a Mafia game NOT a Harry Potter game.

People are talking about teleporting and shape shifting like that some how will determime somthing. Who cares if Dobledoer or Dobby can teleport? Why is that important?

Our mod has made several simple mistakes so far with spelling and color and many have pointed the finger of doom at those on the receiving end.

Personally I dont beleive that the Mod has gone over his game with a fine tooth comb to make sure the lore al connects with each others roles to everyones hearts content.

With Sparticus I tend to beleive him...mistakes and all. I cant beleive people want to hang him because he said animorph instead of somthing else or that shapeshifting take practice or is hereditary? I played a recent game where I made a huge mistake with my role due to human error. I missread my Role and took the color for granted. I got hung for it. There was no defense for it but I was completely innocent.

We are not playing a Harry Potter game with Mafia lore people. The over anylizing to get roles to fit the universe is getting annoying and will work into the favor of Mafia if allowed to continue.

While I agree with Iron that over analyzing this game and the setup and what word was misspelled can lead to a lynch for the wrong reasons, I just can't overlook the evidence against SPARTICUS. His initial role claim was only partial. Then when he tries to describe what he can do, it took him multiple posts. Then he forgets what he is. It just doesn't add up. If he's in fact town, maybe he'll learn from this, but town needs to be up front and truthful in their interactions. He seems to be shielding himself with some cloud of ambiguity, so that nobody is quite sure what's going on. My vote stays.

Hippo is also a good case. That dude jumps all over the place. Perhaps tomorrow we can address him...with pressure.

(fastposted by SPART)