HP: fight for freedom. Game over. Wizards won.

[mc05025]

First of all it is not a cartoon. Its ANIME

Secondly, I am reading the posts daily, I just have not a lot of things to say. Its day one and I know nothing. You people are talking a lot but you say nothing interesting and as I can understand we pretty much kill someone randomly at first day.

vote SPARTACUS1974

well looks like a cartoon to me
how many times do you want to vote for me ?
and i do think that jonty is skimming and following safari sounvote/vote jonty

Sorry, thought I had not vote.

It 's difficult to to follow you is voting whom without a vote count at all FREEZIE
But in my case I do not even remember I did had voted you. I remember suspected you but not actually voted you

ok no worries but why did you vote for me what is your reason?

Had to put some pressure in order to have some conclusions on day one. I did not like how you attacked for being inactive when I am not.
Lastly, you said that cartoon and anime are the same to you...

[chapcrap]

I'm flattered. People are getting pressured for "following me".

lulled.

While I don't find jonty necessarily part of the Death Eaters (he might be, but his actions haven't really been awful), I'll go ahead and add the needed Day 1 pressure. You know how it is jonty.

unvote vote jonty

Yeah like this isn't scummy at all.

-Tails

I don't see how what I said is scummy. What about it sounds scummy to you?

[safariguy5]

I'm flattered. People are getting pressured for "following me".

so are you gonna help to apply some presure?
and what about you mc05? now is a chance for you to help, you said you have been reading and waiting for something interesting

Why would I help apply pressure? To do so would be to say that I thought my own case was bad. I thought I had a valid point in regards to length of time necessary to consider someone submarining.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

I'm flattered. People are getting pressured for "following me".

lulled.

While I don't find jonty necessarily part of the Death Eaters (he might be, but his actions haven't really been awful), I'll go ahead and add the needed Day 1 pressure. You know how it is jonty.

unvote vote jonty

Yeah like this isn't scummy at all.

-Tails

I don't see how what I said is scummy. What about it sounds scummy to you?

You stated that you didn't think he was that scummy... yet you voted for him because there's a BW on him. How is that not scummy?

-TG

[freezie]

Sorry for lack of vote counts. Busy weekend..and pre-weekend. Anyway, vote count inc. I shall now promise a daily vote count starting from now.

Vote Count

Nebuchadnezer(1): Bleed_green

Spartacus (4): Spiesr, McHammer, Safari, Jonty

L-2Jonty(7):Bleed_green Leehar, Dazza, Spartacus, Djfireside, TheHippo8, Chapcrap, Iron Butterfly

McHammer(1): Victor

Strike Wolf(1): Drake

DjFireside(1): Alt

Bleed_green(1): Nebuchadnezer



Victor is beeing replaced. 4 days until deadline ( March 8th, 10:00pm Est central time )

[strike wolf]

So I come back to find that everyone's voting Jonty for...misreading one of Spartacus' posts and...voting for the same person that safari did twice...Well other than trying to establish correlation based on two incidents for agreeing with Safari who has brought up two of the better cases today and blaming spartacus for voting incorrectly (I don't believe he was the only one). The only thing notable about this case I find was Jonty's reaction to being pressured in that he did seem a little panicked. Beyond that there's more interesting things that have happened over the course of this game. For instance the fact that since the spotlight shifted, Neb has again gone inactive. Or the irony of Spartacus blaming Jonty for misreading his post when in fact Spartacus misread when MC05 had last posted originally? Or that Chap decided to put Jonty at what appears to be L-3 with some time before the deadline. Same goes to Iron Butterfly (L-2) on that account. Out of the choices....


vote Spartacus for taking the hypocritical oath.

Fastposted: Okay looks like L-3 for Iron and L-4 for Chap. Unless someone unvoted Jonty and I missed it.

[freezie]

Fastposted: Okay looks like L-3 for Iron and L-4 for Chap. Unless someone unvoted Jonty and I missed it.

No, my vote count was incorrect. It has been fixed. Jonty is at L-2


Everywhere replaces Victor Sullivan.

[strike wolf]

So I come back to find that everyone's voting Jonty for...misreading one of Spartacus' posts and...voting for the same person that safari did twice...Well other than trying to establish correlation based on two incidents for agreeing with Safari who has brought up two of the better cases today and blaming spartacus for voting incorrectly (I don't believe he was the only one). The only thing notable about this case I find was Jonty's reaction to being pressured in that he did seem a little panicked. Beyond that there's more interesting things that have happened over the course of this game. For instance the fact that since the spotlight shifted, Neb has again gone inactive. Or the irony of Spartacus blaming Jonty for misreading his post when in fact Spartacus misread when MC05 had last posted originally? Or that Chap decided to put Jonty at what appears to be L-3 with some time before the deadline. Same goes to Iron Butterfly (L-2) on that account. Out of the choices....


vote Spartacus for taking the hypocritical oath.

Fastposted: Okay looks like L-3 for Iron and L-4 for Chap. Unless someone unvoted Jonty and I missed it.

Ebwop I meant to note this in my post: Hippo I get why you think bandwagoning randomly may help pressure but there's two problems. one is that if people aren't familiar with your play style it makes you look scummier than the people you are bandwagoning. Two for people who are more familiar it makes it difficult to gauge your actual position (this would be useful if you were scum but not if you are town). Three for people who are familiar with your play style they know the bandwagoning on your part is just your usual play and feel less pressured by your vote.

Fastposted: Nvm. the original chap (L-3) and Iron (L-2) votes were the correct amount.

[everywhere116]

Crispy Onions, Noxious Fumes Irradiate Rapidly, Morbidly.

[freezie]

Posting this to hopefully fastpost Strike a third time.

[everywhere116]

*sigh* back to reading...

[thehippo8]

So I come back to find that everyone's voting Jonty for...misreading one of Spartacus' posts and...voting for the same person that safari did twice...Well other than trying to establish correlation based on two incidents for agreeing with Safari who has brought up two of the better cases today and blaming spartacus for voting incorrectly (I don't believe he was the only one). The only thing notable about this case I find was Jonty's reaction to being pressured in that he did seem a little panicked. Beyond that there's more interesting things that have happened over the course of this game. For instance the fact that since the spotlight shifted, Neb has again gone inactive. Or the irony of Spartacus blaming Jonty for misreading his post when in fact Spartacus misread when MC05 had last posted originally? Or that Chap decided to put Jonty at what appears to be L-3 with some time before the deadline. Same goes to Iron Butterfly (L-2) on that account. Out of the choices....


vote Spartacus for taking the hypocritical oath.

Fastposted: Okay looks like L-3 for Iron and L-4 for Chap. Unless someone unvoted Jonty and I missed it.

Ebwop I meant to note this in my post: Hippo I get why you think bandwagoning randomly may help pressure but there's two problems. one is that if people aren't familiar with your play style it makes you look scummier than the people you are bandwagoning. Two for people who are more familiar it makes it difficult to gauge your actual position (this would be useful if you were scum but not if you are town). Three for people who are familiar with your play style they know the bandwagoning on your part is just your usual play and feel less pressured by your vote.

Fastposted: Nvm. the original chap (L-3) and Iron (L-2) votes were the correct amount.

Thanks Strike for that. Maybe I should come with a "will act like a normal person" warning But seriously, I don't bandwagon randomly. I might not put in heaps of text for the sake of it, but it's never random. As you know, when I've got soemthing to say I go on and on and on about it, boring the pants off everyone, but when it is early pressure voting then like a good hippo I stay with the herd. It's only when I see something worthy of comment that I say, although my sense of humour may be an acquired taste!! But having said all that, I am happy where my vote is for now. I am not convinced with the Sparticus option just yet. I need to hear more and think more about that. The only problem is that we now have a split vote. I don't understand what jonty's issue is, maybe jonty can pop in soon and then we can all think more seriously about Sparticus. I also want to hear from Sparticus as to your case against him, frankly if he can't make an effort then he deserves all he gets

[everywhere116]

Finished.

Jonty is acting very erratically, and at L-2, it's probably time to claim.

[Leehar]

After this tho, I'd like to get back to the inactivity aspect. It worked in getting an obvious submariner on D1 of another game, so I still think it's a good way to go

[chapcrap]

You stated that you didn't think he was that scummy... yet you voted for him because there's a BW on him. How is that not scummy?

-TG

First, with that sign off, it made me think TeeGee...

Second, perhaps it is a little scummy, but if you look at my post, I said, "you know how it is jonty"

Why did I say that? Because I have been in multiple games with jonty and we each feel the same way about this and about day 1. Pressure, a lot of times random pressure, is necessary on Day 1 to force claims and look at voting patterns. If our positions in the vote count were switched, I am confident that jonty would have done the same to me. That is why he is hopping from one BW to the next, because he's trying to apply pressure. I don't see that as something that is inherently scummy, especially on Day 1.

This makes me inclined to think that he may actually be town and I am starting to consider unvoting without the claim (which I hate to do).

There are two other things that I find odd about this. It seems like jonty has disappeared since the BW started. That's not usually like him. Also, it seems a little unusual that some are trying to divert attention away from someone when we are just trying to get a claim. This isn't a real BW. It's a day 1 BW. Only to encourage a claim and then we go from there. The fact that it is being done so far in front of the deadline is a good thing for town because once jonty claims, we can decide whether or not we believe him and subsequently lynch him or move on and still have time to try and find someone that is a Death Eater.

*sidenote: As a Harry Potter fan, I will continue to refer to the mafia/scum as Death Eaters.
*2nd sidenote: I have thought a lot about this and I'm very unsure about any possible third party roles that might be available. I believe that most will either be a Death Eater or on Harry's side. That being said, I am comprising a list of roles that I think could be in this particular game. Hopefully, I'll have that out soon. There are MANY fake claims possible in this game though.

[strike wolf]

THe problem I have with it Chap is as you admit yourself you are basically voting Jonty for what it is that people do on Day 1. As far as Jonty disappearing. He last was on Saturday March 3rd. He last posted in this thread Saturday March Third about 8 hours prior. I'd rather vote an inactive over Jonty and I'm voting Spartacus for the reasons previously stated as well as my one own stated reason (there's also some gut feeling but that would be difficult to argue for).

Possible third party could be The Centaurs from the Forbidden Forest. They tend to help Harry at a couple points in the series but mostly try stay out of things. The SPider that Hagrid raised (though if the spider is in this game, he'd be as likely an SK as a regular third party role). Maybe even the goblins at Gringotts (though they are fairly minor). Beyond that everyone is most likely town or Mafia and there's plenty to choose from on both sides. THe one exception could be that one person in this game is a lyncher however considering the other possible roles this character could have It's far from the only route the mod could take.

There are plenty of notable Death Eaters that could be chosen as far as role but these are likely 3 of the powers mafia would possess:

Avada Kadavra-the Killing spell (godfather ability. Voldemort *audible gasp from audience* sorry "He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named")
Imperius curse-the ordering spell (could be a few things. busdrive, frame, flavor cop etc. all possible)
Cruciatus curse-the torture spell (most likely the mafia's role block power. Bellatrix LeStrange is probably the most notable Death Eater concerning this spell)

All this being flavor spec. of course.

[Djfireside]

THe problem I have with it Chap is as you admit yourself you are basically voting Jonty for what it is that people do on Day 1. As far as Jonty disappearing. He last was on Saturday March 3rd. He last posted in this thread Saturday March Third about 8 hours prior. I'd rather vote an inactive over Jonty and I'm voting Spartacus for the reasons previously stated as well as my one own stated reason (there's also some gut feeling but that would be difficult to argue for).

Ill give you your gut on Spart as its good to play the gut move and I wont fault you on that. However why flip off of Jonty when we the pressure is placed and they all of a sudden have dropped off. Yes it is a weekend and Ill give them the benefit of that but id rather see what their defense is to our onslaught than just let them slide away Im not saying to hammer them just I want to hear them out.

Possible third party could be The Centaurs from the Forbidden Forest. They tend to help Harry at a couple points in the series but mostly try stay out of things. The SPider that Hagrid raised (though if the spider is in this game, he'd be as likely an SK as a regular third party role). Maybe even the goblins at Gringotts (though they are fairly minor). Beyond that everyone is most likely town or Mafia and there's plenty to choose from on both sides. THe one exception could be that one person in this game is a lyncher however considering the other possible roles this character could have It's far from the only route the mod could take.

There are plenty of notable Death Eaters that could be chosen as far as role but these are likely 3 of the powers mafia would possess:

Avada Kadavra-the Killing spell (godfather ability. Voldemort *audible gasp from audience* sorry "He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named")
Imperius curse-the ordering spell (could be a few things. busdrive, frame, flavor cop etc. all possible)
Cruciatus curse-the torture spell (most likely the mafia's role block power. Bellatrix LeStrange is probably the most notable Death Eater concerning this spell)

All this being flavor spec. of course.

Thanks for the additional info.

As for me Im leaving my vote on for now as it can be helpful to hear something at this point. Chasing an inactive is always another move to be made when needed.

[jonty125]

OK guys, sorry I haven't posted in a bit my sis' birthday party & my internet connection has caused me to miss 48 hours but I am Harry Potter (Wizard Hero). Every night I may "investigate" someone if they are Voldemort, they die, we win. Going to have another read of the pages since my previous post to see if there was anything particularly scummy.

[strike wolf]

OK guys, sorry I haven't posted in a bit my sis' birthday party & my internet connection has caused me to miss 48 hours but I am Harry Potter (Wizard Hero). Every night I may "investigate" someone if they are Voldemort, they die, we win. Going to have another read of the pages since my previous post to see if there was anything particularly scummy.

Well this is probably the worst day 1 claim we probably could have had.

[jonty125]

The hippo just jumped on the BW. FOS there but I admit, I've not played well in mafia recently and I seem to be on every wagon nowadays before I get waggoned. But then strike defends him as it's his playing style. Hippo comes along and agrees. Well its not as good as the spartacus case so I will stay there.

[spiesr]

While I don't find jonty necessarily part of the Death Eaters (he might be, but his actions haven't really been awful), I'll go ahead and add the needed Day 1 pressure. You know how it is jonty.

unvote vote jonty

While we do need to pursue someone on day 1, shouldn't it be someone that you actually find scummy?

I'm flattered. People are getting pressured for "following me".

so are you gonna help to apply some presure?
and what about you mc05? now is a chance for you to help, you said you have been reading and waiting for something interesting

If he doesn't agree with the case then why would you expect him to join in on it? Safariguy doesn't seem to have indicated his position on the case either way. So I don't know why you assume he would support it...

i was only asking a question if he wanted to help what is wrong with doing that or should we all be quiet on day 1

Perhaps he prefers a case on another player? Joining that bandwagon and doing nothing were not the only options...

[Djfireside]

UNVOTE JONTY

Based on a town claim I will back off as I got what I was looking for out of the deal. I must admit however that I do find Harry to be a bit underpowered for that role, granted I am now believing there are other powers out there but for the one who will fought he who shall not be named and survived, should have more power than the scar locator but then again who knows.

[jonty125]

UNVOTE JONTY

Based on a town claim I will back off as I got what I was looking for out of the deal. I must admit however that I do find Harry to be a bit underpowered for that role, granted I am now believing there are other powers out there but for the one who will fought he who shall not be named and survived, should have more power than the scar locator but then again who knows.

Well I have the power to endgame N1, so I say I am pretty well powered.

[everywhere116]

UNVOTE JONTY

Based on a town claim I will back off as I got what I was looking for out of the deal. I must admit however that I do find Harry to be a bit underpowered for that role, granted I am now believing there are other powers out there but for the one who will fought he who shall not be named and survived, should have more power than the scar locator but then again who knows.

Well I have the power to endgame N1, so I say I am pretty well powered.

Overpowered if you ask me.

[SPARTACUS1974]

wow thats not i wanted to hear i honestly thought jonty was a deatheater or something else and with that claim he has to be town we have to protect him tonight

unvote