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Re: Golden Pantheon - Japanese - D2! 11/~11

Postby edocsil on Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:11 am

Lets make sure to keep it moving here.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Japanese - D2! 11/~11

Postby jonty125 on Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:38 am

safariguy5 wrote:
TheGeneral2112 wrote:To all who are asking, I was not roleblocked. I learned that someone is not sided with the mafia. I'm not outting the invest yet, as it is pretty confirmed that we have a doc. If a watcher was watching me last night, please don't out what you saw. Even if you got both the doc and a mafia, that would mean outting the doc and I really don't want that shit.

Yeah, Ionno, I would think that mafia wouldn't wanna WIFOM their nightkills, so it's possible the doc protected someone else.


If I was mafia, I'd probably have a punt at killing cop N1 just in case doc bluffs but all WIFOM.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Japanese - D2! 11/~11

Postby strike wolf on Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:51 am

jonty125 wrote:
safariguy5 wrote:
TheGeneral2112 wrote:To all who are asking, I was not roleblocked. I learned that someone is not sided with the mafia. I'm not outting the invest yet, as it is pretty confirmed that we have a doc. If a watcher was watching me last night, please don't out what you saw. Even if you got both the doc and a mafia, that would mean outting the doc and I really don't want that shit.

Yeah, Ionno, I would think that mafia wouldn't wanna WIFOM their nightkills, so it's possible the doc protected someone else.


If I was mafia, I'd probably have a punt at killing cop N1 just in case doc bluffs but all WIFOM.


It really depends on the player and the scenario. For the doc if he is the one who stopped the kill assuming it was aimed at General, he may have felt uncomfortable attempting to WIFOM who they thought mafia would kill. For the mafia if they targeted general they probably figured that the doc WOULD attempt to wifom their kill. IF not it was either a good stab by the role blocker hitting the killer or a good WIFOM by the doctor in guessing who the mafia would target. Of course even all of this doesn't account for it having been possibly a jailkeeper. There's a lot of options.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Japanese - D2! 11/~11

Postby jonty125 on Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:22 pm

strike wolf wrote:
jonty125 wrote:
safariguy5 wrote:
TheGeneral2112 wrote:To all who are asking, I was not roleblocked. I learned that someone is not sided with the mafia. I'm not outting the invest yet, as it is pretty confirmed that we have a doc. If a watcher was watching me last night, please don't out what you saw. Even if you got both the doc and a mafia, that would mean outting the doc and I really don't want that shit.

Yeah, Ionno, I would think that mafia wouldn't wanna WIFOM their nightkills, so it's possible the doc protected someone else.


If I was mafia, I'd probably have a punt at killing cop N1 just in case doc bluffs but all WIFOM.


It really depends on the player and the scenario. For the doc if he is the one who stopped the kill assuming it was aimed at General, he may have felt uncomfortable attempting to WIFOM who they thought mafia would kill. For the mafia if they targeted general they probably figured that the doc WOULD attempt to wifom their kill. IF not it was either a good stab by the role blocker hitting the killer or a good WIFOM by the doctor in guessing who the mafia would target. Of course even all of this doesn't account for it having been possibly a jailkeeper. There's a lot of options.


Didn't the general say he wasn't roleblocked or was that my imagination.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Japanese - D2! 11/~11

Postby strike wolf on Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:32 pm

jonty125 wrote:
strike wolf wrote:
jonty125 wrote:
safariguy5 wrote:
TheGeneral2112 wrote:To all who are asking, I was not roleblocked. I learned that someone is not sided with the mafia. I'm not outting the invest yet, as it is pretty confirmed that we have a doc. If a watcher was watching me last night, please don't out what you saw. Even if you got both the doc and a mafia, that would mean outting the doc and I really don't want that shit.

Yeah, Ionno, I would think that mafia wouldn't wanna WIFOM their nightkills, so it's possible the doc protected someone else.


If I was mafia, I'd probably have a punt at killing cop N1 just in case doc bluffs but all WIFOM.


It really depends on the player and the scenario. For the doc if he is the one who stopped the kill assuming it was aimed at General, he may have felt uncomfortable attempting to WIFOM who they thought mafia would kill. For the mafia if they targeted general they probably figured that the doc WOULD attempt to wifom their kill. IF not it was either a good stab by the role blocker hitting the killer or a good WIFOM by the doctor in guessing who the mafia would target. Of course even all of this doesn't account for it having been possibly a jailkeeper. There's a lot of options.


Didn't the general say he wasn't roleblocked or was that my imagination.


He did the jailkeeper option is almost entirely dependent on the target being someone other than thegeneral.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Japanese - D2! 11/~11

Postby everywhere116 on Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:54 pm

strike wolf wrote:
jonty125 wrote:
strike wolf wrote:
jonty125 wrote:
safariguy5 wrote:Yeah, Ionno, I would think that mafia wouldn't wanna WIFOM their nightkills, so it's possible the doc protected someone else.


If I was mafia, I'd probably have a punt at killing cop N1 just in case doc bluffs but all WIFOM.


It really depends on the player and the scenario. For the doc if he is the one who stopped the kill assuming it was aimed at General, he may have felt uncomfortable attempting to WIFOM who they thought mafia would kill. For the mafia if they targeted general they probably figured that the doc WOULD attempt to wifom their kill. IF not it was either a good stab by the role blocker hitting the killer or a good WIFOM by the doctor in guessing who the mafia would target. Of course even all of this doesn't account for it having been possibly a jailkeeper. There's a lot of options.


Didn't the general say he wasn't roleblocked or was that my imagination.


He did the jailkeeper option is almost entirely dependent on the target being someone other than thegeneral.

Or the jailkeeper's target being the mobster assigned with the kill, assuming that's how edocsil does things.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Japanese - D2! 11/~11

Postby safariguy5 on Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:35 pm

I always have the mafia assign someone to execute the kill because there are so many roles that depend on that information. Busdriver, roleblocker, jailkeeper, etc. Because I was mafia last game, I know edoc does require a single mobster execute the kill.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Japanese - D2! 11/~11

Postby jonty125 on Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:57 pm

safariguy5 wrote:I always have the mafia assign someone to execute the kill because there are so many roles that depend on that information. Busdriver, roleblocker, jailkeeper, etc. Because I was mafia last game, I know edoc does require a single mobster execute the kill.


I thought you were town-aligned but were told you were mafia last game saf? But back to the point, edoc does specifically ask for who is performing the kill and who is being performed upon.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Japanese - D2! 11/~11

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:34 pm

jonty125 wrote:
strike wolf wrote:
jonty125 wrote:
safariguy5 wrote:
TheGeneral2112 wrote:To all who are asking, I was not roleblocked. I learned that someone is not sided with the mafia. I'm not outting the invest yet, as it is pretty confirmed that we have a doc. If a watcher was watching me last night, please don't out what you saw. Even if you got both the doc and a mafia, that would mean outting the doc and I really don't want that shit.

Yeah, Ionno, I would think that mafia wouldn't wanna WIFOM their nightkills, so it's possible the doc protected someone else.


If I was mafia, I'd probably have a punt at killing cop N1 just in case doc bluffs but all WIFOM.


It really depends on the player and the scenario. For the doc if he is the one who stopped the kill assuming it was aimed at General, he may have felt uncomfortable attempting to WIFOM who they thought mafia would kill. For the mafia if they targeted general they probably figured that the doc WOULD attempt to wifom their kill. IF not it was either a good stab by the role blocker hitting the killer or a good WIFOM by the doctor in guessing who the mafia would target. Of course even all of this doesn't account for it having been possibly a jailkeeper. There's a lot of options.


Didn't the general say he wasn't roleblocked or was that my imagination.


Like six posts above yours:

TheGeneral2112 wrote:To all who are asking, I was not roleblocked. I learned that someone is not sided with the mafia. I'm not outting the invest yet, as it is pretty confirmed that we have a doc. If a watcher was watching me last night, please don't out what you saw. Even if you got both the doc and a mafia, that would mean outting the doc and I really don't want that shit.


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Re: Golden Pantheon - Japanese - D2! 11/~11

Postby safariguy5 on Thu Mar 01, 2012 5:56 pm

jonty125 wrote:
safariguy5 wrote:I always have the mafia assign someone to execute the kill because there are so many roles that depend on that information. Busdriver, roleblocker, jailkeeper, etc. Because I was mafia last game, I know edoc does require a single mobster execute the kill.


I thought you were town-aligned but were told you were mafia last game saf? But back to the point, edoc does specifically ask for who is performing the kill and who is being performed upon.

I was SK, but the mafia thought I was part of them. Technically, if all the mafia were dead, I would get 2 kills, one as SK and one as mafia. But yes, mafia did assign who made which kill, which is why the Night 1 flavor from greek had the god in chains flavor which I then had to try very hard to pin on Cronus.

And the reason why we had 1 kill almost all of the nights was because I wanted to hide my SKer extra nightkill ability in order to be able to endgame town a night sooner.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Japanese - D2! 11/~11

Postby soundman on Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:36 pm

So General, why won't you tell us who you investigated? I don't see how it could hurt the town, only help.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Japanese - D2! 11/~11

Postby strike wolf on Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:39 pm

soundman wrote:So General, why won't you tell us who you investigated? I don't see how it could hurt the town, only help.


*shrugs* I don't see the harm in keeping it behind the bars for now. As long as the person isn't considered to be at risk of any lynch, I don't really feel there's strong to make them claim.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Japanese - D2! 11/~11

Postby safariguy5 on Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:40 pm

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soundman wrote:So General, why won't you tell us who you investigated? I don't see how it could hurt the town, only help.


*shrugs* I don't see the harm in keeping it behind the bars for now. As long as the person isn't considered to be at risk of any lynch, I don't really feel there's strong to make them claim.

I agree. And if he clears someone, that person would probably be high on the mafia kill list anyways. With such a small game, every confirmed townie alive at endgame would increase the odds of a correct scum lynch.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Japanese - D2! 11/~11

Postby TheGeneral2112 on Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:42 pm

strike wolf wrote:
soundman wrote:So General, why won't you tell us who you investigated? I don't see how it could hurt the town, only help.


*shrugs* I don't see the harm in keeping it behind the bars for now. As long as the person isn't considered to be at risk of any lynch, I don't really feel there's strong to make them claim.


This. I don't plan on outting any innos until the doc is dead or my innos are being lynched. Otherwise mafia will start killing my innos.


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Re: Golden Pantheon - Japanese - D2! 11/~11

Postby everywhere116 on Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:48 pm

What we know:

Either the doc got lucky, or a roleblocker did.

General got an innocent. Won't reveal him so that the Daedra don't have an obvious target.

I'm not quite sure we have more than this. I'll look in day one's post see if there's anything else that caught my eye.

Another thing that I found while researching the Greek thread is that edoc said that he had trouble finding malicious roles for this pantheon, with one exception. This could mean that there is only one scum in this game, or he could have found someone else for the baddie to be with.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Japanese - D2! 11/~11

Postby safariguy5 on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:24 pm

everywhere116 wrote:What we know:

Either the doc got lucky, or a roleblocker did.

General got an innocent. Won't reveal him so that the Daedra don't have an obvious target.

I'm not quite sure we have more than this. I'll look in day one's post see if there's anything else that caught my eye.

Another thing that I found while researching the Greek thread is that edoc said that he had trouble finding malicious roles for this pantheon, with one exception. This could mean that there is only one scum in this game, or he could have found someone else for the baddie to be with.

Interesting. Could be a third party SKer role of some sort? Maybe also investigation immune to buff the role a bit?
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Japanese - D2! 11/~11

Postby everywhere116 on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:33 pm

safariguy5 wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:What we know:

Either the doc got lucky, or a roleblocker did.

General got an innocent. Won't reveal him so that the Daedra don't have an obvious target.

I'm not quite sure we have more than this. I'll look in day one's post see if there's anything else that caught my eye.

Another thing that I found while researching the Greek thread is that edoc said that he had trouble finding malicious roles for this pantheon, with one exception. This could mean that there is only one scum in this game, or he could have found someone else for the baddie to be with.

Interesting. Could be a third party SKer role of some sort? Maybe also investigation immune to buff the role a bit?

Perhaps something like that, although what you describe would make a Cop useless.

Although this entire thought is still conjecture with incredibly loose evidence behind it. I'm not going to put too much stock in it.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Japanese - D2! 11/~11

Postby safariguy5 on Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:37 pm

everywhere116 wrote:
safariguy5 wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:What we know:

Either the doc got lucky, or a roleblocker did.

General got an innocent. Won't reveal him so that the Daedra don't have an obvious target.

I'm not quite sure we have more than this. I'll look in day one's post see if there's anything else that caught my eye.

Another thing that I found while researching the Greek thread is that edoc said that he had trouble finding malicious roles for this pantheon, with one exception. This could mean that there is only one scum in this game, or he could have found someone else for the baddie to be with.

Interesting. Could be a third party SKer role of some sort? Maybe also investigation immune to buff the role a bit?

Perhaps something like that, although what you describe would make a Cop useless.

Although this entire thought is still conjecture with incredibly loose evidence behind it. I'm not going to put too much stock in it.

Ah right. Maybe one-shot bulletproof or something?

And if that's the case, then it's possible we have some third party roles. Maybe survivor or lyncher.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Japanese - D2! 11/~11

Postby drake_259 on Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:34 am

well there could have been other reasons there was no kill but its most likely a doc or roleblocker but anyhow

i doubt there is one scum, i guess if edoc wanted to play things around he would stick only 2 and have other anti roles but a minimum of 2 at least.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Japanese - D2! 11/~11

Postby jonty125 on Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:37 am

everywhere116 wrote:
General got an innocent. Won't reveal him so that the Daedra don't have an obvious target.


Where did everywhere get Daedra from?
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Japanese - D2! 11/~11

Postby strike wolf on Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:13 am

jonty125 wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:
General got an innocent. Won't reveal him so that the Daedra don't have an obvious target.


Where did everywhere get Daedra from?


I was wondering the same thing...of course I'm not even sure what Daedra would have to do with Japanese mythology. Seems to be more of an Elder Scrolls thing.

Anyways same as I've said in my other threads. Very busy over weekend likely won't be able to post
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Japanese - D2! 11/~11

Postby everywhere116 on Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:40 pm

strike wolf wrote:
jonty125 wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:
General got an innocent. Won't reveal him so that the Daedra don't have an obvious target.


Where did everywhere get Daedra from?


I was wondering the same thing...of course I'm not even sure what Daedra would have to do with Japanese mythology. Seems to be more of an Elder Scrolls thing.

Anyways same as I've said in my other threads. Very busy over weekend likely won't be able to post
It is from the Elder Scrolls. Good catch. You probably also know that the Daedra are the quote unquote "bad" gods. That's what I meant. I frequently pull terms out of my ass like this. It's what I do.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Japanese - D2! 11/~11

Postby jonty125 on Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:43 pm

everywhere116 wrote:
strike wolf wrote:
jonty125 wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:
General got an innocent. Won't reveal him so that the Daedra don't have an obvious target.


Where did everywhere get Daedra from?


I was wondering the same thing...of course I'm not even sure what Daedra would have to do with Japanese mythology. Seems to be more of an Elder Scrolls thing.

Anyways same as I've said in my other threads. Very busy over weekend likely won't be able to post
It is from the Elder Scrolls. Good catch. You probably also know that the Daedra are the quote unquote "bad" gods. That's what I meant. I frequently pull terms out of my ass like this. It's what I do.


Ah, I wouldn't have got that. I want to get Skyrim but my CPU struggles to play Minecraft, so, yeah I'm not going to attempt Skyrim.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Japanese - D2! 11/~11

Postby everywhere116 on Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:48 pm

Well, this game is getting tied down. We aren't anywhere further than where we were Day 1. We need to get the ball rolling.

I for one would like to put some pressure on MeDeFe, a player so productive and talkative he has made 6 posts in the last 13 pages of gameplay. They're not complete fluff, but he does state the obvious a lot. It's not too much to go on, but I don't see us talking about anything else today.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Japanese - D2! 11/~11

Postby TheGeneral2112 on Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:38 pm

I won't be posting much this weekend. 32 hours of work and 7 hours of firearm training all in 3 days. Ughhhhhhhhhh. See you all on Monday! :lol:
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