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Re: Will the Real Gen.LeeGettinhed please stand up![CLEARED]

Postby ljex on Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:23 pm

lackattack wrote:
Evolution299 wrote:Really? Lack took the time to read some of the responses and the only one he cared about was MB's where MB is filing a complaint with consumer fraud. He even goes so far as to threaten MB that he will file a counterclaim.

Seriously?!?! What is wrong with this site when even the owner could care less about everyones opinions. Alot of us feel a lack of trust and integrity from those who run this, and LAck comes, comments about one post and ignores the real responses to this problem.

I knew I shouldn't have renewed.


I take the integrity of the game quite seriously, and I do care about our members opinions. I don't like it either when our Conqueror gets his points from cheap tactics. We just don't have a solution yet. Once again we spent quite a bit of time this morning discussing farming and ranching during the admin meeting. I've recently made improvements to the anti-farming ban, and there are more measures coming soon to protect new recruits. As king achilles has pointed out many times, it is very tricky to make rules against taking advantage of lower ranks because it is very hard to draw a line between abuse and normal playing. If you have any suggestions on how to enforce a ranching rule in a practical way we would love to hear them. In the meantime I'm looking into changing the join a game pages to show new games first, to discourage ranching, but there are serious issues I need to iron out (i.e. will most games still fill?, what to do with games that never fill?).

By the way, my counterclaim threat was a joke, that website doesn't even exist!


The best one i have seen to date is viewtopic.php?f=4&t=161292

i feel it draws a nice line in that anyone who hosts public games is fine but those who try to target lower ranked players when joining games are in violation. One would of course have to determine what a lower ranked player is and then how to know what rank someone was when the games were joined but i think this would help eliminate experienced players joining against new players and inviting them to games for the specific tactic of improving their statistics.

there is a clear loophole in the fact that the quads public games with low rankers will still be a method to get to conqueror (e.g. the method me and blitz used to get to the #1 spot) but i feel this would be a good change for the site as a whole and not spoil the fun of conquerclub where there is no rank segregation among public games.
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Re: Will the Real Gen.LeeGettinhed please stand up![CLEARED]

Postby Evolution299 on Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:36 pm

lackattack wrote:
Evolution299 wrote:Really? Lack took the time to read some of the responses and the only one he cared about was MB's where MB is filing a complaint with consumer fraud. He even goes so far as to threaten MB that he will file a counterclaim.

Seriously?!?! What is wrong with this site when even the owner could care less about everyones opinions. Alot of us feel a lack of trust and integrity from those who run this, and LAck comes, comments about one post and ignores the real responses to this problem.

I knew I shouldn't have renewed.


I take the integrity of the game quite seriously, and I do care about our members opinions. I don't like it either when our Conqueror gets his points from cheap tactics. We just don't have a solution yet. Once again we spent quite a bit of time this morning discussing farming and ranching during the admin meeting. I've recently made improvements to the anti-farming ban, and there are more measures coming soon to protect new recruits. As king achilles has pointed out many times, it is very tricky to make rules against taking advantage of lower ranks because it is very hard to draw a line between abuse and normal playing. If you have any suggestions on how to enforce a ranching rule in a practical way we would love to hear them. In the meantime I'm looking into changing the join a game pages to show new games first, to discourage ranching, but there are serious issues I need to iron out (i.e. will most games still fill?, what to do with games that never fill?).

By the way, my counterclaim threat was a joke, that website doesn't even exist!


I agree with COF, Lack. This is what you should be telling us as paying customers. Everything seems so secretive and noone.
If you would have said that in the first place, instead of the post that you made, I NEVER would have said what I did.

To you Lack I appologize.
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Re: Will the Real Gen.LeeGettinhed please stand up![CLEARED]

Postby eddie2 on Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:50 pm

this is a big step lack maybe you could get involved in a gd thread maybe even start one to get everyones feedback.... this thread i feel is a big step in the correct direction because you have actually posted something for people to think about.
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Re: Will the Real Gen.LeeGettinhed please stand up![CLEARED]

Postby lackattack on Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:56 pm

Thanks guys. And you're right I should communicate more what we're working on.

I'm going to discuss that possible solution with the admins during our next meeting...
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Re: Will the Real Gen.LeeGettinhed please stand up![CLEARED]

Postby hmsps on Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:59 pm

lackattack wrote:Thanks guys. And you're right I should communicate more what we're working on.

I'm going to discuss that possible solution with the admins during our next meeting...
Credit where credit is due. =D> That is what people have been asking for, a little transparency.
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Re: Will the Real Gen.LeeGettinhed please stand up![CLEARED]

Postby sdh on Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:26 pm

thankyou lackattack, good to hear.
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Re: Will the Real Gen.LeeGettinhed please stand up![CLEARED]

Postby ubcman64 on Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:36 pm

lackattack wrote:Thanks guys. And you're right I should communicate more what we're working on.

I'm going to discuss that possible solution with the admins during our next meeting...


yes, thank you =D>
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Re: Will the Real Gen.LeeGettinhed please stand up![CLEARED]

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:40 pm

comic boy wrote:
Chariot of Fire wrote:I'm with ljex and Commander on this. I saw what happened to them and thought "OK, perhaps I'm not in possession of all the details" and that their punishment was excessive but maybe justified. Now having been on the receiving end of it myself (and in possession of all the details far better than anyone else) I have simply lost all faith. Along with this faith goes my desire to do anything for the welfare of this site: bringing new players into the clan, helping on new maps, reporting C&A, contributing to the CLA, assisting with ladders/rankings, renewing my premium, encouraging my clan members to renew membership, etc.

Sure, it's just one player. "Big deal" you may think. But if the same mood permeates throughout a wider (and more silent) audience then one day this place will just be left to an inept administration and a leaderboard topped by scam artists. It's a pity. It could be so much better if someone in authority had the moral fibre or a sympathetic ear.


For what its worth I saw no reason to renew premium , I haven't even bothered to play a game for about 3 months, this site has lost its soul :(
I was displeased that a medal was put into place and I was overlooked because I could not provide a screen shot to prove that I obtained conqueror even though it was common knowledge I obtained this. I even gave a specific time frame ( within a month ) and who I surpassed for number 1 ( Poo Maker ) but it still wasnt enough. It took other CC players to finally provided the "proof" that was required. It is going on 5 months for non premium for me. I been a member here for 6 years and at one time owned every major CC record. Most games played, most games won, most unique defeats, most medals, being number 1 twice, etc. I spent 4 years documenting the all time high scores which was kept more accurately than the script that most players use these days.
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Re: Will the Real Gen.LeeGettinhed please stand up![CLEARED]

Postby BGtheBrain on Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:42 pm

And on that note. This thread is locked.
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