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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (17/17)[D1 Start]

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:01 pm

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Soundman replaces eagleblade. I will provide an updated VC after I get off work.

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That's a lead if I ever saw one.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (17/17)[D1 Start]

Postby spiesr on Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:16 pm

chapcrap wrote:Since we only have a few days, I'm not really sure what we are going to find on day 1. Does anyone have an actual lead or vote? (not a joke)
As far as I can tell, the only thing we have to work with right now is the bandwagon on Eagleblade. It is possible that we could find something mildly suspicious if we look hard enough at that. (Or we might just end up with eyestrain...)
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (17/17)[D1 Start]

Postby strike wolf on Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:38 pm

Well we have edoc going after eagle. Not surprising he has done the same in his interactions with Shield in the past. Spiesr voted for him early but his vote seemed to be at least semi joking. Ghostly has been accused of defending him but I'm not sure if that is just because he's new and unfamiliar with the eagleblade events (as I was).
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (17/17)[D1 Start]

Postby ghostly447 on Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:41 pm

strike wolf wrote:Well we have edoc going after eagle. Not surprising he has done the same in his interactions with Shield in the past. Spiesr voted for him early but his vote seemed to be at least semi joking. Ghostly has been accused of defending him but I'm not sure if that is just because he's new and unfamiliar with the eagleblade events (as I was).


I was aware that he got mod killed in the italian mafia game, but I didnt know there was a trend. So I felt that I needed to express my concerns for everyone to know that if it was just because of one occasion there was no reason to keep after him.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (17/17)[D1 Start]

Postby strike wolf on Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:42 pm

strike wolf wrote:Well we have edoc going after eagle. Not surprising he has done the same in his interactions with Shield in the past. Spiesr voted for him early but his vote seemed to be at least semi joking. Ghostly has been accused of defending him but I'm not sure if that is just because he's new and unfamiliar with the eagleblade events (as I was).


Ebwop and the rest just kind of blended in without rereading.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (17/17)[D1 Start]

Postby edocsil on Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:10 pm

Unvote

Perhaps ghostly should be looked at if sound flips scum, but I don't think the lead is a good one ATM.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (17/17)[D1 Start]

Postby ghostly447 on Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:12 pm

edocsil wrote:Unvote

Perhaps ghostly should be looked at if sound flips scum, but I don't think the lead is a good one ATM.


Wait, what? I didnt vote for eagleblade and I stated my reason. I will not vote soundman because he isnt doing anything scummy. I think you are trying to look a little too closely into my actions and reasoning.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (17/17)[D1 Start]

Postby edocsil on Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:15 pm

I think you misunderstand me. I do not think that you not voting for eagle was scummy. I don't intend to vote for sound for any reason at the moment. All I am saying is that soundman flips scum in a few days perhaps we will take a look at you, but at the moment any case based on the defense of another player is groundless.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (17/17)[D1 Start]

Postby Victor Sullivan on Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:16 pm

Well, this, this is, this is hm...

Nice to see soundman replacing eagleblade! Of course, now we lost our Day 1 lynch candidate :P

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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (17/17)[D1 Start]

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:24 pm

edocsil wrote:Unvote

Perhaps ghostly should be looked at if sound flips scum, but I don't think the lead is a good one ATM.


Although ghostly was the only called out for defending eagle; PCM also did not vote, and was in at least one of the blacklist causing games. I am not saying either is scummy, but strike's hypothesis makes sense. If soundman does end up being scummy, PCM is a stronger candidate to look at then ghostly.

In any case, Unvote. Clearly the air is too foul for joke votes now.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (17/17)[D1 Start]

Postby ghostly447 on Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:33 pm

edocsil wrote:I think you misunderstand me. I do not think that you not voting for eagle was scummy. I don't intend to vote for sound for any reason at the moment. All I am saying is that soundman flips scum in a few days perhaps we will take a look at you, but at the moment any case based on the defense of another player is groundless.


Eh, alright. lol. I thought you were just going to say "Vote ghostly for defending someone!!!"
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (17/17)[D1 Start]

Postby safariguy5 on Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:49 pm

unvote due to replacement.

Ionno, it's not like eagle has played in a lot of games, so I'd say the trend is disturbing, but I can forgive ghostly if he was only in a couple games with eagle. So I don't think it's a case that warrants a vote.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (17/17)[D1 Start]

Postby crazymilkshake5 on Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:33 pm

Well since we have absolutely no leads... I'm going to vote for no lynch.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (17/17)[D1 Start]

Postby strike wolf on Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:37 pm

crazymilkshake5 wrote:Well since we have absolutely no leads... I'm going to vote for no lynch.


actually voting no lynch is very rarely a good idea. I'm not going to vote you because i believe you are new to the forum (at the very least I am confident I have not been in a game with you recently) but even when a no lynch is inevitable it's almost always better to let the game go down to the deadline while keeping discussion going.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (17/17)[D1 Start]

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:38 pm

strike wolf wrote:
crazymilkshake5 wrote:Well since we have absolutely no leads... I'm going to vote for no lynch.


actually voting no lynch is very rarely a good idea. I'm not going to vote you because i believe you are new to the forum (at the very least I am confident I have not been in a game with you recently) but even when a no lynch is inevitable it's almost always better to let the game go down to the deadline while keeping discussion going.


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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (17/17)[D1 Start]

Postby new guy1 on Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:38 pm

i have always been told that a no lynch is worse then lynching a townie, i agree though, and so i unvote vote no lynch for now. if there are any leads later, then i will consider changing my vote, and i will attempt to be here when the day ends in case a case comes up where they need me to make a decision.

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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (17/17)[D1 Start]

Postby new guy1 on Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:40 pm

strike wolf wrote:
crazymilkshake5 wrote:Well since we have absolutely no leads... I'm going to vote for no lynch.


actually voting no lynch is very rarely a good idea. I'm not going to vote you because i believe you are new to the forum (at the very least I am confident I have not been in a game with you recently) but even when a no lynch is inevitable it's almost always better to let the game go down to the deadline while keeping discussion going.


this is true, but again, if there is a case near the deadline i will consider voting to lynch the person.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (17/17)[D1 Start]

Postby soundman on Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:46 pm

Well I read through the thread and at this point the only thing I have is an inactive case.

Vote la galleta He confirmed and put in one vote. He's been silent since.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (17/17)[D1 Start]

Postby ghostly447 on Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:48 pm

To add onto Soundman, I dont know how accurate the "players reading this forum" is, but I saw him on probably about 20-30 minutes ago.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (17/17)[D1 Start]

Postby chapcrap on Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:49 pm

I have played with both CMS5 and newguy1. I think that they both should know that a no lynch on day 1 is a bad thing. Especially without even pressuring someone. Someone should be pressured at minimum. Starting off for a no lynch is just ridiculous. You can just let the deadline get here without lynching someone if you want a no lynch.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (17/17)[D1 Start]

Postby new guy1 on Tue Jan 31, 2012 10:58 pm

two times i posted that if there was a case, i would follow it. skimming, or being ignorant? not trying to be offensive, thats just the only two answers i can come up with...
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (17/17)[D1 Start]

Postby strike wolf on Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:00 pm

I have to agree with Chap here. CM I've never played with can't say but New guy's been in enough games that he should know that actually voting no lynch is useless pretty much unless there is reason to speed up the day and how often is that the case. I will vote No Lynch as an act to show that I do not feel a lynch should come together but I will not support an actual no lynch in almost any scenario.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (17/17)[D1 Start]

Postby new guy1 on Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:08 pm

ive played 3 games... i posted that i HAD BEEN TAUGHT IT WAS BETTER TO LYNCH TOWN THEN NO LYNCH, but that i would put my vote there as thats where i stood. before i had my joke vote still up -_-...
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (17/17)[D1 Start]

Postby ghostly447 on Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:10 pm

new guy1 wrote:ive played 3 games... i posted that i HAD BEEN TAUGHT IT WAS BETTER TO LYNCH TOWN THEN NO LYNCH, but that i would put my vote there as thats where i stood. before i had my joke vote still up -_-...


Seriously, I have seen him post this 2-3 times. I believe this is a waste of a case. Honestly, it is a decent reason that has been posted for everyone to see plenty of times.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (17/17)[D1 Start]

Postby ghostly447 on Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:12 pm

FOS Chapcrap
FOS Strikewolf

Both seem to be trying to ignore his reasoning even though it is logical, and even supports that should we find a real case, then he will provide his case and follow it should it be a good one.
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