Dr Greenthumb , Lord of the Dice[Cleared, OP Warned]

by **auditthefed** on Tue Jan 24, 2012 11:57 pm

Accused:

Dr Greenthumb
Lord of the Dice

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis
Conducting Secret Diplomacy

Game number(s):

Game 10478016
Game 10177461
Game 10079193
Game 9974831
Game 9891997

Comments: Every game they play together ends with either one winning. On top of that they both attacked me at the same time, neglecting to even touch each other in the process. This is what alerted me. I then proceeded to check the "find all games with.." and noticed they had multiple games played together and in every game they alternate wins. To me, this is pretty clear evidence that they are using secret diplomacy, it's hard to put into words the situation where they both attacked me, and left each other alone, but if you were in my position you would completely understand. It did not benefit either of them to attack me except to attempt to eliminate me from the game before one of them was. What was even funnier is after I accused them with in-game chat, they attack the crap out of each other and leave me alone. Hilarious. Anyways this is my first time so sorry if i did something wrong or out of order, but i was furious when i saw what happened. Haha. I laugh about it now though.

by **D00MandD3A7H** on Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:36 am

Not a smart choice of words in the game auditthefed.

by **deathcomesrippin** on Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:17 am

It two of the four games NRs ruin them, and in the other three, doesn't look fishy to me. They attack each other almost exclusively in one of the games, and definitely trade blows in the other. Your claim that they never attacked each other is incorrect as well. On a few occasions it looked like they broke each other up.

by **auditthefed** on Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:46 am

like i said, you had to see it unfold as i did. but i still think they are using secret diplomacy, without a doubt. And the "not attacking each other," i was referring to the move where they teamed up on me, not every game they've ever played. It's impossible to go through a game without attacking your partner, you have to conquer some lands to get troops. The way i see it, is these two start a game together, wait for two other people to join, then eliminate the latter two, and then they finish the game either alternating wins or maybe they play it fair after all the other people are eliminated. I guess it doesn't really matter it's just a free game to kill time.

by **auditthefed** on Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:52 am

If they don't want people to swear, they will put in a filter or delete me.

by **IcePack** on Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:15 pm

auditthefed wrote:If they don't want people to swear, they will put in a filter or delete me.

They're fine w swears, but you'll get a Warning for use of bigotry in chat (if it's ur first offense).

Ice

by **deathcomesrippin** on Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:20 pm

IcePack wrote:
auditthefed wrote:If they don't want people to swear, they will put in a filter or delete me.

They're fine w swears, but you'll get a Warning for use of bigotry in chat (if it's ur first offense).

Ice

A big difference between swearing and bigotry, Audit.

by **alster** on Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:38 pm

I liked this:

2012-01-25 19:16:27 - Dr Greenthumb: Are you playing the same game... Open your eyes I have been attacking green... But that will be changing now...
2012-01-25 19:36:07 - Lord of the Dice: Are you playing the same game... Open your eyes I have been attacking green... But that will be changing now...

by **deathcomesrippin** on Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:36 pm

ROFL well then.

by **auditthefed** on Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:35 pm

Hey sorry guys i got nothing against Gays or Lesbians, it's just the way we talk around here the words have no real meaning to us.
Anyways after closer inspection of their previous games, I know for a fact these guys are helping each other out. In every game: They join right after one another so as to take their turn simultaneously(one after the other). Also: For the first 3 rounds they attack only the other players (not each other) with the rare exception that they will have to attack each other in order to conquer a continent for a bonus. I think I had one other piece of evidence, but i forgot it while i was writing the other two. If it comes back to me I will post it.

by **TheForgivenOne** on Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:22 pm

I looked through the first 3 games you they played together, and I don't see anything wrong, they attacked each other pretty well, and Green even eliminated red before the other player in one of them The third game is useless, as two NR's deadbeated. The 4th one is harder, because part of the log is lost due to a bug that occurred, So I don't know what green did in his first turn, beside attacking 2 red. In the game you are in with them, you claimed they did no attacking except to gain a bonus. That is wrong, as I've checked the log, and a few times they go back and forth in Asia. 2012-01-22 20:04:18 - Dr Greenthumb assaulted Moscow from Astana and conquered it from Lord of the Dice 2012-01-22 20:24:09 - Lord of the Dice assaulted Moscow from Stockholm and conquered it from Dr Greenthumb

A few rounds later, they attack each other back and forth in Asia. Why would they do that if they were working together? The only part of that log that MAY be suspicious, is when they both attacked you. Red hit 3 random territories in Asia, which really didn't do any damage to you, and Green broke your bonuses. After that, they attacked each other and you claim that is only because you called them on it. How do you know that is for sure? Maybe they would have hit each other anyways. Sorry, but I don't see it. Cleared on the SD part, will look into the Multi Claim.