WiseViking[CLEARED]ES

by **MNDuke** on Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:11 am

Accused:

WiseViking

The accused are suspected of:

Holding players hostage

Game number(s):

Game 10407508

Comments: WiseViking had this game well in hand. Instead of kill us, he has been dragging it out on purpose and keeping us hostage in the game. He had at least a 76 stack and I don't think me and the other guy even have that many troops left combined. On top of which, he has this many troops and he starts hitting neuts. He refuses to cross Cen 8. When he finally does. He stops there further delaying the inevitable. It's late and I have to get up for fucking class in the morning. I don't feel I should have to deadbeat a game and tarnish my record because this guy wants to play games. Please take this seriously and take action.

Check the rounds before this and you will see is delaying the inevitable on purpose, just to be a dick and to prolong our suffering. I understand he doesn't win very much and wants to savor it, but some of us have better things to do. At this point he is dropping more troops than I have left.
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2012-01-10 04:03:55 - Incrementing game to round 18
2012-01-10 04:04:34 - WiseViking got bonus of 5 troops added to ?
2012-01-10 04:04:34 - WiseViking got bonus of 5 troops added to ?
2012-01-10 04:04:34 - WiseViking got bonus of 5 troops added to ?
2012-01-10 04:04:34 - WiseViking got bonus of 5 troops added to ?
2012-01-10 04:04:34 - WiseViking got bonus of 5 troops added to ?
2012-01-10 04:04:34 - WiseViking got bonus of 3 troops added to ?
2012-01-10 04:04:34 - WiseViking got bonus of 3 troops added to ?
2012-01-10 04:04:34 - WiseViking received 4 troops for holding ?
2012-01-10 04:04:34 - WiseViking received 2 troops for holding ?
2012-01-10 04:04:34 - WiseViking received 4 troops for holding ?
2012-01-10 04:04:34 - WiseViking received 4 troops for holding ?
2012-01-10 04:04:34 - WiseViking received 4 troops for holding ?
2012-01-10 04:04:34 - WiseViking received 23 troops for 71 regions
2012-01-10 04:04:40 - WiseViking played a set of Clan Rhu 2, Imperial Dynasty 2, and Clan Rhu 6 worth 8 troops
2012-01-10 04:04:40 - WiseViking got bonus of 2 troops added to ?
2012-01-10 04:04:43 - WiseViking deployed 49 troops on ?
2012-01-10 04:04:46 - WiseViking assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from neutral player
2012-01-10 04:04:49 - WiseViking assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from neutral player
2012-01-10 04:04:54 - WiseViking assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from neutral player
2012-01-10 04:05:00 - WiseViking assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from neutral player
2012-01-10 04:05:03 - WiseViking assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from neutral player
2012-01-10 04:05:07 - WiseViking assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from neutral player
2012-01-10 04:05:10 - WiseViking assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from neutral player
2012-01-10 04:05:14 - WiseViking assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from neutral player
2012-01-10 04:05:17 - WiseViking assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from neutral player
2012-01-10 04:05:23 - WiseViking assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from neutral player
2012-01-10 04:05:26 - WiseViking assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from neutral player
2012-01-10 04:05:35 - WiseViking reinforced ? with 5 troops from ?
2012-01-10 04:05:38 - WiseViking reinforced ? with 2 troops from ?
2012-01-10 04:05:43 - WiseViking reinforced ? with 5 troops from ?
2012-01-10 04:05:46 - WiseViking reinforced ? with 5 troops from ?
2012-01-10 04:05:53 - WiseViking reinforced ? with 5 troops from ?
2012-01-10 04:05:56 - WiseViking reinforced ? with 5 troops from ?
2012-01-10 04:06:02 - WiseViking reinforced ? with 3 troops from ?
2012-01-10 04:06:07 - WiseViking reinforced ? with 2 troops from ?
2012-01-10 04:06:12 - WiseViking ended the turn and got spoils

After this turn. He conquers cen 8 from me and holds up there after taking only 1 region with 98 guys. This shows intent and purpose.

You going to back me up on this one jj?

by **DJPatrick** on Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:35 am

it was a three hander and you two guy formed an alliance...seem in those circumstances, WiseViking can take his time to be sure...apparently you "fucking" class in the m0rning could wait as you have later joined one of my games...asking JeffJeff to back you up? Priceless...LOL

by **TheForgivenOne** on Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:39 am

Doesn't excuse him of holding a hostage.

by **eddie2** on Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:50 am

TheForgivenOne wrote:Doesn't excuse him of holding a hostage.

did he actually hold hostage though. time was set at 3 mins per round.. game lasted 21 rounds. which is not that long for a 3 player feudal.

looking at the time he started his turns. he could of attacked any person but could of run the risk of time running short. so i think i would of ended as well. he had less than 2 mins left in most rounds.

by **codierose** on Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:20 am

dosent win very much priceless 8368 (51%) won vik very good player probably doing it for a reason 2 against one dont blame him GG vik =D>

by **MNDuke** on Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:30 am

eddie2 wrote:
TheForgivenOne wrote:Doesn't excuse him of holding a hostage.

did he actually hold hostage though. time was set at 3 mins per round.. game lasted 21 rounds. which is not that long for a 3 player feudal.

looking at the time he started his turns. he could of attacked any person but could of run the risk of time running short. so i think i would of ended as well. he had less than 2 mins left in most rounds.

If this is indeed the case, then why did he attack all those neutral troops. Really eddie?

by **eddie2** on Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:58 am

mnduke have you ever attacked neutrals to get to someone and seen you did not have the time. he was checking his border lines. also remember wiseviking has just got back from a site ban. so is proberly getting the hang of it again.

by **MNDuke** on Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:19 am

eddie2 wrote:mnduke have you ever attacked neutrals to get to someone and seen you did not have the time. he was checking his border lines. also remember wiseviking has just got back from a site ban. so is proberly getting the hang of it again.

Check the game log and you will see he is not checking his border lines as he had the border lines blocked off. He had all access to cen blocked off which is where me and the other person in the game were locked into. There were no more border's to be checked. Really, review the game log, you will see. So far you are giving this guy the benefit of the doubt and going to such lengths as to make excuses for him. Why is he attacking in Barbarians if he his checking border lines? Why is he forting to xeu 17 and 13? Try again Eddie.

by ***Pixar*** on Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:31 am

i believe he has had past problems of autoing when he lost and now hes holding people hostage? he should get a perminit vacation

by **s3xt0y** on Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:27 pm

MNDuke wrote:2012-01-10 03:57:37 - MNDuke: 15 on 28 i lost 14 and 9 ***

That's from the game chat, derogatory homosexual comments are against the rules. Being cautious for 5 rounds in a 3 minute game is smart. You can't lose the game if you have the most troops.

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by **zimmah** on Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:23 pm

eddie2 wrote:
TheForgivenOne wrote:Doesn't excuse him of holding a hostage.

did he actually hold hostage though. time was set at 3 mins per round.. game lasted 21 rounds. which is not that long for a 3 player feudal.

looking at the time he started his turns. he could of attacked any person but could of run the risk of time running short. so i think i would of ended as well. he had less than 2 mins left in most rounds.

genious, less then 2 minutes in a 3 minute game is still 66% of the turn time.

by **BelgianVirus** on Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:45 pm

I was in the game with MNDUKE and WISE VIKING and i do know that WISE VIKING had the chance to finish the game earlier then he could have! instead he prolonged the game when he could of finished us both of and save us both the agony of having to sit there and waste time. so i will take MNDUKE side on this one. I dont like accusing others of cheating, because cheaters are sore loosers!

by **MNDuke** on Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:22 pm

s3xt0y wrote:
MNDuke wrote:2012-01-10 03:57:37 - MNDuke: 15 on 28 i lost 14 and 9 ***

That's from the game chat, derogatory homosexual comments are against the rules. Being cautious for 5 rounds in a 3 minute game is smart. You can't lose the game if you have the most troops.

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I apologize for my remarks. They weren't directed at anyone or intended to cause hurt or harm. Didn't even realize I had said it. If I need a forum ban, I will accept the consequences.

However, WiseViking maliciously held us hostage. Please explain to me how hitting neutrals is being cautious? That's not being smart or cautious. That's rubbing our noses in it when he has us locked down. You seem capable of reviewing the game log. Now go a little further and check his forts. Check my drops and you will see that I wasn't even making a dent in him. He chose to keep us there for 5 rounds and it had nothing to do with being cautious. As you said you can't lose if you have the most troops, well he had the most troops and chose to keep us hostage with them. Try harder s3xtoy.

by **perchorin** on Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:28 am

Someone might wanna check out the ratings this guy leaves as well--pretty much a page full of all ones.

by **TheForgivenOne** on Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:52 am

perchorin wrote:Someone might wanna check out the ratings this guy leaves as well--pretty much a page full of all ones.

Check the date of his last rating. I believe he either lost his ability to rate people, or stopped after his last warning.

by **King_Herpes** on Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:27 am

This guy sounds pretty cool.

by **lynch5762** on Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:27 am

King_Herpes wrote:This guy sounds pretty cool.

Yea he sounds like a real stand up guy (insert sarcastic comment)

I guess that I am fortunate he has me foed.... I searched games and couldn't find a reason but now I am thinking he did me a favor

by **codierose** on Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:38 am

TheForgivenOne wrote:
perchorin wrote:Someone might wanna check out the ratings this guy leaves as well--pretty much a page full of all ones.

Check the date of his last rating. I believe he either lost his ability to rate people, or stopped after his last warning.

rateing is over rated

by **perchorin** on Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:18 am

TheForgivenOne wrote:
perchorin wrote:Someone might wanna check out the ratings this guy leaves as well--pretty much a page full of all ones.

Check the date of his last rating. I believe he either lost his ability to rate people, or stopped after his last warning.

Ah didn't catch that

by **Woodruff** on Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:44 pm

On a slightly different but similar note, WiseViking has a habit of deadbeating out of games (yes, deadbeating, as I've had to sit through three full turns of his doing nothing) as soon as he's clearly losing. He's done it so often to me that I have foe'd him for it.

by **GeneralRisk** on Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:19 pm

He also cheats and on more than 1 occasion he has threw a game and gave it to GiGi by timing missed turns and such so he is on my foe list too.

by **Evil Semp** on Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:27 pm

Just because someone isn't as aggressive as you think he should be in finishing a game or you think he had enough to finish you off earlier doesn't make it a hostage situation. When he took all those neutrals in Barbarian did he know that neither of you were hiding there? I don't see the hostage holding in this game. This is CLEARED.

by **eddie2** on Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:34 pm

Woodruff wrote:On a slightly different but similar note, WiseViking has a habit of deadbeating out of games (yes, deadbeating, as I've had to sit through three full turns of his doing nothing) as soon as he's clearly losing. He's done it so often to me that I have foe'd him for it.

he just came back from a site vacation for that woodruff.

by **MNDuke** on Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:26 am

Evil Semp wrote:Just because someone isn't as aggressive as you think he should be in finishing a game or you think he had enough to finish you off earlier doesn't make it a hostage situation. When he took all those neutrals in Barbarian did he know that neither of you were hiding there? I don't see the hostage holding in this game. This is CLEARED.

Actually yes. He knew exactly where our positions were. A simple region count could have cleared that up and if you have followed the trail of troops you would have obviously seen that no one was there. What a lame ruling. The mods here have become absolutely useless. Could Karl weigh in on this? I feel he may be more objective.

by **chapcrap** on Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:58 pm

MNDuke wrote:
Evil Semp wrote:Just because someone isn't as aggressive as you think he should be in finishing a game or you think he had enough to finish you off earlier doesn't make it a hostage situation. When he took all those neutrals in Barbarian did he know that neither of you were hiding there? I don't see the hostage holding in this game. This is CLEARED.

Actually yes. He knew exactly where our positions were. A simple region count could have cleared that up and if you have followed the trail of troops you would have obviously seen that no one was there. What a lame ruling. The mods here have become absolutely useless. Could Karl weigh in on this? I feel he may be more objective give me the ruling I want.

Fixed that for you.