king achilles wrote:Although I applaud the effort you put in to your report, I would say that there is still not enough evidence to conclusively indicate there was a secret diplomacy between team 3 and 4. The pictures presented and how you translated their moves can be subjective. We can probably see what we want to see and suspect them of teaming up. If Teal had 11 troops on Meuse and then 10 on Doubs, you expect team 4 to do something to attack Teal's Alsace? So, based on your analysis, unless team 4 attacks teal's Alsace, they are teaming up to let one of them win? because team 4 should do everything in their power to focus on team 3 because teal holds a bonus zone. They should worry about the other teams if they get their own bonus area as well.
Now, did teal ever left his border open for an easy attack in Meuse? No. For pic 18, should grey have attacked him with his 13 troops? Let's say he gets +3 on his starting turn and deploys on his 13 so he gets 16 total. Then what? attack the 11 on Meuse? If he does win, what do you think would be left of him after the attack? teal has 10 on Doubs just waiting for a counter attack, not ot mention pink too. What would happen with grey after that? What does he or his team get out of the attack? This is more like a matter of difference in gameplay and strategy. Not everyone thinks the same way.
We can suspect what we want to suspect. If teal had little troops guarding his bonus area and grey had an opportunity to attack him without weakening him at the same time, then maybe there is merit to your suspicions. However, if the territory in question is guarded enough, you can't always expect an opponent to make the attack.
This is cleared but still noted because of grey's move to transfer from Oise to Marne, which I agree that it looks strange.
I agree with everything written and thread can be freely closed. But, your explanation does not answer my question and lets my main evidence go by unnoticed. Main evidence cannot be find explaining why grey did not attack teal's bonus. Main evidence can be find by answering on this question below, that everybody have been avoiding since page2 here, and there is nothing subjective about it, please.
Why did MD212(team4) spent reinforcements two rounds6&7 to eliminate blue player out of Alps (picture2 and picture6),near Alsace+2 bonus that team3 holds. Instead placing them all in Finistere so team4 could have more chance at taking and hold Brittany+2, or stack on Cher for better defence against team3 that was holding Alsace+2, or stack on Osie to take Picardy+3? Can there be any other posible explanation than team4 helping team3 to eliminate blue out of Alps and team4 somehow knowing team3 wont attack them at the same time? Orange was obviously not going for Burgundy+4 bonus or a spoil as it was a no spoil game.
EDIT: players, please dont write comments that are not contributing to the discussed subject. I believe there is enough text to read already.
