Lord_Jeffie multi [BUSTED] KRK

[b00060]

Lord_Jeffie

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis

Game 10062214


i saw he set up nothing but freestyle adjacent games on feudal epic and his one second turns in first game and joined the rest so he could not take advantage of anyone else. I don't want the points when you boot him.

He has 4 active games, you can check any of them. Once again, I am sure I could win all of these, but do not want the points, just want to stop him and his other account from ruining this site. NO WAY a new player with ZERO games under his belt sets up feud epic with freestyle adjacent and takes one second moves with perfect strategy.

[b00060]

Ha, he has already learned how to hide is active status for freestyle games as well.

ONLY GMAE YOU NEED TO LOOK AT Game 10062211

[jgordon1111]

your right either multi or dumb as dirt

[afroaction]

Lord_Jeffie

The accused are suspected of:

Being Multis

Game 10062214


i saw he set up nothing but freestyle adjacent games on feudal epic and his one second turns in first game and joined the rest so he could not take advantage of anyone else. I don't want the points when you boot him.

He has 4 active games, you can check any of them. Once again, I am sure I could win all of these, but do not want the points, just want to stop him and his other account from ruining this site. NO WAY a new player with ZERO games under his belt sets up feud epic with freestyle adjacent and takes one second moves with perfect strategy.

fixed

[jackal31]

I know this is pending....and it appears we know who it might belong to from the first game, but can we look at this a little differently right now.

I know b00060 "runs into" a bunch of "multis", but after reading the rules, there are students at colleges who observe CC play, then create an account of their own. Now, I dont condone cheating AT ALL, but if the accused are actually innocent, couldnt that actually effect the CC memberships and premium collection? I say this because there are people who observe over my shoulder when I'm in class. So my IP would probably change from my home address to my school address when in transition. But my point is, since my IP would eventually originate from the University, and there were other CC members from the University, then wouldnt that be hard to discern the difference?

Maybe I'm wrong for insinuating this guys innocence and maybe I dont know the whole procedure, but wouldnt that put a wrench into discovery?

[b00060]

jackal, do you think you could take one second turns, in a Feudal Epic game in freestyle with PERFECT strategy your very first game on CC?

PLEASE CC, WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK INTO WHAT GAMES ? CAN JOIN CREATE AND THE POSSIBILITY OF GAMES THAT CAN BE JOINED BY RANKS.

[jackal31]

b, I know what youre sayin, because it would seem fishy. But if you look at how he's taken his turns too, it seems a little off.

When I first joined this site, my friends and I used to play the board game all the time. So one of my friends "stumbled" on this site, and we all joined. Now, there were times that we were all at my apartment playing from the same comp. We would also observe each other and see the different maps and gain strategies from that. I guess its possible these new players could be doing the same things. Which if they are, and they are legitimately non-multi players, then its possible they could be applying an observed strategy and not a learned one.

I just think if these guys are not multi's, then it effects the CC community more than if they were. Because if an "innocent" person is banned, what reason would they have to chase the account and give CC some money?

[b00060]

And they perfect taking multiple one second moves in their first game by observing? Sorry, but that takes experience. Also, if they are that experienced, then they would know if they want to pay or not, so in my opinion these guys only hurt the community. I personally think freemium should be limited to 3 months.

[jackal31]

I didnt mention this to stir you up b, but I didnt notice any 10 sec turns either. The few turns I looked at have significant delays for thought upon some deployment and reforts. You can map out a turn and take it extremely quickly if you think it through prior to starting it.

Anyway, lets see what happens. It is frustrating when multi's constantly pop up because it doesnt make it fair for the existing community or the future community.

edit: you know, the ultimate question is if he has BOB and knows the key strokes. his turns do seem fast, but not sure if they can be that fast on another browser other than Mozilla.

[b00060]

take a look at the games again. Not only does he have one second moves, I was in control of the game and he did not have time to map out any plans. He would start right away and react. Just react based on experienced, of which his rank clearly is not aligned with. Freemiums kill this site. 3 months and shit or get off the pot. The freemiums that just suck off the site and many of which create multiple accounts to play as many games as you or I pay for the privilege is wrong.

[afroaction]

the problem with a 3 month limit on freemiums is: You think you have problems now with multis? Imagine all the freemiums renewing their accounts every 3 months. Some people are cheap, others can't afford it. And i feel the majority of multis try get around the 4 game limit, or their trying increase their ranks or help their buddies.

[b00060]

Good point, but if it was a freemium that only granted access to a select few maps, say 20, then it would make it more worth their while to pay for premium. If they cant get the gist of the site off a sample map set, then they will never pay anyways. That is my gut feeling, no data to support it, but sounds logical in my feeble mind.

[Swimmerdude99]

He hasn't won any... if hes so good wouldn't he have some wins? I don't see why he can't play fast and be new here. To be a "pro" as u seem to be claiming he would have to be winning right? I mean... hes losing all of them from what I see...

[b00060]

He has one finished game and it was a loss. I suspect it was to his multi. God I love multi defenders.

[Karl_R_Kroenen]

Lord_Jeffie and hockeyfreekare BUSTED

[Swimmerdude99]

He has one finished game and it was a loss. I suspect it was to his multi. God I love multi defenders.

Just making a comment. Sheesh. Nice catch though.

[GeneralRisk]

b00060 is seldom wrong on multis

[MoB Deadly]

Jackal - anyone wrongfully busted can explain the situation via E-Ticket.

[jackal31]

I know that guys....it wasnt an accusation against b (and I think he knows that) but a simple say of no-one is going to go through the e-ticket way to make sure they can continue to play if they have never had an account here before.

Basically it comes to the "bad taste in your mouth" typa thing. Would you want to spend your money on a product or with a group that has accused you of something. All I was sayin was if there was any shred of innocence, then you can bet that person would leave the site just on the false accusation. Thus deterring people from joining the site.

[b00060]

Good Work KRK