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Re: Denmark v32 [05 Okt 2011] Gameplay v4.pg1. map update pg

Postby Flapcake on Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:00 pm

koontz1973 wrote:My initial response is to change it back. But wait for gimil and Baron to have a look.


I totaly agree, it look absolut silly #-o
The way it looked b4 was my favorit, I dont think the details on the queen makes an unbalance in the maps style, it rater makes it less doll to watch.
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Re: Denmark v32 [05 Okt 2011] Gameplay v4.pg1. map update pg

Postby Flapcake on Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:03 pm

QoH wrote:I'm indifferent to the Queen, but the flag now looks worse in my opinion.

Let me know when the game play is done so I can do the XML


Gameplay is set, I dont think grafics will change that drastic so it will effect the gameplay.
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Re: Denmark v32 [05 Okt 2011] Gameplay v4.pg1. map update pg

Postby gimil on Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:40 pm

Flapcake wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:My initial response is to change it back. But wait for gimil and Baron to have a look.


I totaly agree, it look absolut silly #-o
The way it looked b4 was my favorit, I dont think the details on the queen makes an unbalance in the maps style, it rater makes it less doll to watch.


I think the problem with the flag/queen is there colouring. The are both a saturated red. While the rest of your map leans more towards a softer palette. Perhaps the general title area needs a rethink (in my opinion) as I still see it as the only major concern left on this map.
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Re: Denmark v32 [05 Okt 2011] Gameplay v4.pg1. map update pg

Postby Flapcake on Sun Oct 09, 2011 3:15 pm

Have put some yellow in the queens dress, the colour wont fload in with the flag, that have been darker in the red tone

I think i have to keep it like this for a while, to get use to the change, or lets hear the foundry voice about it :)

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Re: Denmark v32 [05 Okt 2011] Gameplay v4.pg1. map update pg

Postby isaiah40 on Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:52 pm

Hmmm ... they are still too prominent. Try desaturating them a bit.
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Re: Denmark v32 [05 Okt 2011] Gameplay v4.pg1. map update pg

Postby Flapcake on Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:52 am

Quuen and flag: colors got desaturated. The color of the flag are a deep red, almost Bordeaux red wich is the royal flag color.
The queens color are down toned, the dress is not so shining brigth now.

Trees. Im not a greate artist, thise trees does anyhow look more natural than the ohter clipart look alike.

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Re: Denmark v33 [10 Okt 2011] Gameplay v4.pg1. map update pg

Postby RedBaron0 on Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:34 pm

Trees are better, I'd cut back on the drop shadow some. The queen.... still isn't doing it for me, perhaps just a bust shot?
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Re: Denmark v34 [11 Okt 2011] Gameplay v4.pg1. map update pg

Postby Flapcake on Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:22 am

Changes: The Quuen have left the building, not for good, she can still return :shock: , it does look more clean now and the royal touch has vanish, in every respect its not a map about the Queen.

The trees have less shadow now.

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Re: Denmark v33 [10 Okt 2011] Gameplay v4.pg1. map update pg

Postby gimil on Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:01 am

This looks much better without the queen I think. Looks great. I shall give y a full review after I finish work today.
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Re: Denmark v33 [10 Okt 2011] Gameplay v4.pg1. map update pg

Postby Flapcake on Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:36 am

gimil wrote:This looks much better without the queen I think. Looks great. I shall give y a full review after I finish work today.


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Re: Denmark v34 [11 Okt 2011] Gameplay v4.pg1. map update pg

Postby natty dread on Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:47 am

Posterize the queen
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Re: Denmark v34 [11 Okt 2011] Gameplay v4.pg1. map update pg

Postby RedBaron0 on Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:44 am

I really hate posterization, it just never comes out right. Yeah-yeah, I've tried it on numerous occasions, the point is it never stuck...
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Re: Denmark v34 [11 Okt 2011] Gameplay v4.pg1. map update pg

Postby Flapcake on Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:06 am

I think the queen is buried, as the map looks like now are the basis for future Discussions.
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Re: Denmark v34 [11 Okt 2011] Gameplay v4.pg1. map update pg

Postby natty dread on Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:08 am

RedBaron0 wrote:I really hate posterization, it just never comes out right. Yeah-yeah, I've tried it on numerous occasions, the point is it never stuck...


It can work, but you need to do some tweaking... if you simply run the image through a posterization filter it usually doesn't end up good, but using some filters & custom palettes can improve the results significantly.
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Re: Denmark v34 [11 Okt 2011] Gameplay v4.pg1. map update pg

Postby Flapcake on Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:40 am

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RedBaron0 wrote:I really hate posterization, it just never comes out right. Yeah-yeah, I've tried it on numerous occasions, the point is it never stuck...


It can work, but you need to do some tweaking... if you simply run the image through a posterization filter it usually doesn't end up good, but using some filters & custom palettes can improve the results significantly.


I tryed to separate the red color in the dress and had some filters, reductions and color overlay on, in different combinations, it did come out good, but maby it was the picture that wasn't rigth. for now I stick to the current version.
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Re: Denmark v34 [11 Okt 2011] Gameplay v4.pg1. map update pg

Postby natty dread on Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:12 am

I'd do something like this

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Re: Denmark v34 [11 Okt 2011] Gameplay v4.pg1. map update pg

Postby Flapcake on Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:27 am

natty_dread wrote:I'd do something like this

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ok yes, I do not know if it will fit the rest of the map subdued colors. Territories areas are more over in pastel color.
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Re: Denmark v34 [11 Okt 2011] Gameplay v4.pg1. map update pg

Postby natty dread on Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:33 am

You can reduce the colour saturation, I was mainly talking about the type of effect to apply on the queen.
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Re: Denmark v34 [11 Okt 2011] Gameplay v4.pg1. map update pg

Postby Flapcake on Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:21 am

natty_dread wrote:You can reduce the colour saturation, I was mainly talking about the type of effect to apply on the queen.

Yes I know, But as I understand the communitys mainly consern, is that the colors of the map are calm and subdued, and the queens color was strong and screaming, it dident fit together.
I understand your suggestion and i have played with the image alone for a while, I cant get the effect that Im looking for, the picture is just not good enough.
I have come to the conclusion that the Queen is out of my map forever, there have been largely many who disliked it, so pls end of story ;)

I hope the discution about the queen is over and we can proceed focus on the wholeness of the map, pushing it forwad for a stamp 8-)
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Re: Denmark v34 [11 Okt 2011] Gameplay v4.pg1. map update pg

Postby natty dread on Sat Oct 15, 2011 3:54 am

If you give me the layer with only the queen, I can see if I can edit it to get it to fit with the rest of your map... I mean if you really want the queen on the map you shouldn't give up so easily.
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Re: Denmark v34 [11 Okt 2011] Gameplay v4.pg1. map update pg

Postby Flapcake on Sat Oct 15, 2011 4:54 am

natty_dread wrote:If you give me the layer with only the queen, I can see if I can edit it to get it to fit with the rest of your map... I mean if you really want the queen on the map you shouldn't give up so easily.


your are more than welcome to give it a try, PM me and i send you the file. (saved for gimp 8-) )
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Re: Denmark v34 [11 Okt 2011] Gameplay v4.pg1. map update pg

Postby Gillipig on Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:39 am

I don't like how the forrest on skjern looks!
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Re: Denmark v34 [11 Okt 2011] Gameplay v4.pg1. map update pg

Postby Flapcake on Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:48 am

Gillipig wrote:I don't like how the forrest on skjern looks!

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Re: Denmark v34 [11 Okt 2011] Gameplay v4.pg1. map update pg

Postby natty dread on Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:40 pm

Flapcake wrote:
natty_dread wrote:If you give me the layer with only the queen, I can see if I can edit it to get it to fit with the rest of your map... I mean if you really want the queen on the map you shouldn't give up so easily.


your are more than welcome to give it a try, PM me and i send you the file. (saved for gimp 8-) )


Just copy the layer into a new image and save it as a .png, and post it here... I don't need the whole image file, I'll just work on the queen layer.
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Re: Denmark v34 [11 Okt 2011] Gameplay v4.pg1. map update pg

Postby Flapcake on Sat Oct 15, 2011 12:53 pm

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Flapcake wrote:
natty_dread wrote:If you give me the layer with only the queen, I can see if I can edit it to get it to fit with the rest of your map... I mean if you really want the queen on the map you shouldn't give up so easily.


your are more than welcome to give it a try, PM me and i send you the file. (saved for gimp 8-) )


Just copy the layer into a new image and save it as a .png, and post it here... I don't need the whole image file, I'll just work on the queen layer.


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