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[TA1LGUNN3R]

as all he said was he might as well get modkilled if forced to claim,

I don't think pcm or commander would bastardize a role like that. Maybe a role where you lose you abilities, but modkilling you for claiming is just stupid.

And dammit I keep forgetting my pr.

Freedom and equality can only be achieved through the people's resistance!

-Tails

[slowreactor]

as all he said was he might as well get modkilled if forced to claim,

I don't think pcm or commander would bastardize a role like that. Maybe a role where you lose you abilities, but modkilling you for claiming is just stupid.

And dammit I keep forgetting my pr.

Freedom and equality can only be achieved through the people's resistance!

-Tails

PLEASE READ WHAT I HAVE SAID BEFORE, AND STOP TWISTING WHAT I HAVE SAID. I said specifically I would NOT be modkilled. Please, please, please, PLEASE, re-read everything I have said before.

And here he denounces voting inactives... but that's essentially what everyone was doing until cky responded. Which I find interesting because you never voted for him until something a little more concrete came along, i.e. cky was lurking.

Inactives =\= people who seems to pop in at strategic times only, which was what ckyrias seemed to be doing.

Here, he previously seemed to highlight Squirrel's scumminess but later recanted by defending him. It's worthy to note he never did vote for Squirrel.

The first post is more mocking his name than anything - I didn't assume it would mean anything. The second post were my actual thoughts. I honestly thought that someone would not risk fakeclaiming something like that, and thus I posted my thoughts on that.

[safariguy5]

I'm going to say that I buy the possibility of a tree stump in this game given the large number of players.

On the other hand, I'm also pretty sure we still have at least 1 sane cop (only flavor and naive cop dead so far) and maybe an insane one as well. And we haven't lost any really strong protective roles, so I'm going to assume we probably have a doctor as well.

So for you to lose abilities once you claim, it's not the end of the world slow. I find it hard to believe that the mods would tie up a strong town PR to a tree stump role. If you lose an ability like roleblocking or something, that's not necessarily bad. Or maybe it's that you were bulletproof or something. Again, these are useful abilities, but not necessarily vital to a town win.

So are you allowed to clarify whether you'll lose a passive ability like bulletproof or an active ability like a night action? And if you can't, can you at least say whether or not you believe this role to be a town power role?

[slowreactor]

I'm going to say that I buy the possibility of a tree stump in this game given the large number of players.

On the other hand, I'm also pretty sure we still have at least 1 sane cop (only flavor and naive cop dead so far) and maybe an insane one as well. And we haven't lost any really strong protective roles, so I'm going to assume we probably have a doctor as well.

So for you to lose abilities once you claim, it's not the end of the world slow. I find it hard to believe that the mods would tie up a strong town PR to a tree stump role. If you lose an ability like roleblocking or something, that's not necessarily bad. Or maybe it's that you were bulletproof or something. Again, these are useful abilities, but not necessarily vital to a town win.

So are you allowed to clarify whether you'll lose a passive ability like bulletproof or an active ability like a night action? And if you can't, can you at least say whether or not you believe this role to be a town power role?

No power role, I will not be losing any passive or active abilities. The thing is, though, that losing the power to vote (if that were to happen), IMHO, is the equivalent of being killed my mafia, since someone who is voteless will not be counted towards town/mafia counts for endgame.

[safariguy5]

Really? Is that confirmed by the mods? Because it's not like a town doublevoter counts for an extra townie at endgame either. Of course there is some discussion about this, but seeing as how we already have dead voteless townies, a clarification about votelessness affecting endgame would be nice.

[slowreactor]

Really? Is that confirmed by the mods? Because it's not like a town doublevoter counts for an extra townie at endgame either. Of course there is some discussion about this, but seeing as how we already have dead voteless townies, a clarification about votelessness affecting endgame would be nice.

I would think so, at the very least for voteless townies, e.g:

2 mafia, 2 VT's, 1 voteless townie.

With a deadline, the 2 mafias can force a lynch on a townie, or at the very least force a no lynch, and then proceed to win at night.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

PLEASE READ WHAT I HAVE SAID BEFORE, AND STOP TWISTING WHAT I HAVE SAID. I said specifically I would NOT be modkilled. Please, please, please, PLEASE, re-read everything I have said before.

woah, calm down there, cochise. I was responding to shield's ruminations regarding your role. I never believed that you would be modkilled.

The change will come when all recognize its inevitability.

-Tails

[slowreactor]

EBWOP: So that this situation might as well be a win for mafia, since it is absolutely pointless to play through that scenario.

[slowreactor]

One more thing: Regardless of what happens, if I'm ruining anyone's game, I apologize, I am still fairly new at this so I don't know all the ins and outs yet, especially regarding gaming etiquette.

[TA1LGUNN3R]

You're not ruining anything. So long as you're creating discussion then you can't go wrong. We just might not believe you.

something something proletariat something something.

-Tails

[drake_259]

Edoc and Tail have both placed strong cases against you and i do not believe your telling the whole truth here, I would have probably easily believed you were some type of 3rd party role but this? No....

vote slow

*cuts himself again to tally the amount of votes he has placed*

[chapcrap]

Are you challenging me? Challenge Accepted!

Has slow answered anything without being as vague as possible. He has not claimed anything. He has not even fake claimed anything. Basically, every post says: maybe, maybe not. Maybe he is a tree stump, but he hasn't even claimed that. He hasn't said anything of worth.

And then he's trying to say that being voteless makes you not count at the end? That just seems ridiculous. You don't see strike using any of this untrue logic because he is voteless. We don't even know if slow would be voteless because he won't claim or give any information.

FASTPOSTED x6

He has now repeatedly apologized, which just seems to me like he's trying to get fake sympathy IMO.

[safariguy5]

I'm looking at the downside of losing your vote vs the upside of possibly catching mafia in a lie slow, and I don't really see it. I don't think this game is close to endgame yet, especially with the lynch of a mafia member and sully turning up pro town at the very least. I think we want as many confirmed townies as possible, and seeing as how you're basically a weak VT claim at this point, you'd be low on any mafia kill list anyways. This gives the rest of town less to worry about in regards to investigations/protections. So I don't think being worried about endgame is a valid argument here as the downside to losing a vote is not great enough to counterbalance the potential upside.

[Victor Sullivan]

Kitty no town! Kitty own person! Why you no listen to kitty?


*clears throat* I'd like to address this from a few days ago:

Ok...this seems really weird...I am not buying the whole I can't claim my name thing as that sounds like it would massively hinder the role...but why lie about it? It's possible that mafia don't have fake claims (Mr. Squirrel claimed his real role and as he said Bro could be used for a huge range of Memes so it's hardly disabling) and he's afraid that there may actually be someone else who has the meme he wants to claim.

I was given the fakeclaim of "Musically Oblivious 8th Grader" (if you'll notice my posts from earlier in the game, I tried to incorporate it into my PR, but decided it wasn't worth it and dropped it later). But! I was given no fake role claim. That is to say, I was not given a role tied to the fake name claim. I imagine the fakeclaim given to Squirrel didn't adequately fit his PR and decided against using it (similarly to myself).

-Sully

[sheepofdumb]

I'm just not getting good vibes from you slow.

1). Mr. Squirrel fakeclaims implicates you but you have no night action, how lucky for him.
2). No night action and can be tree stumped with a claim to lose your vote, how unfortunate for you.
3). No omegle partner. You say your role is the reason for no omegle partner. I have a feeling we aren't supposed to like you very much. There's definitely something off about your meme.

[Victor Sullivan]

*clears throat* I'd like to address this from a few days ago:

EBWOP: "pages" not "days" lol

-Sully

[safariguy5]

Kitty no town! Kitty own person! Why you no listen to kitty?


*clears throat* I'd like to address this from a few days ago:

Ok...this seems really weird...I am not buying the whole I can't claim my name thing as that sounds like it would massively hinder the role...but why lie about it? It's possible that mafia don't have fake claims (Mr. Squirrel claimed his real role and as he said Bro could be used for a huge range of Memes so it's hardly disabling) and he's afraid that there may actually be someone else who has the meme he wants to claim.

I was given the fakeclaim of "Musically Oblivious 8th Grader" (if you'll notice my posts from earlier in the game, I tried to incorporate it into my PR, but decided it wasn't worth it and dropped it later). But! I was given no fake role claim. That is to say, I was not given a role tied to the fake name claim. I imagine the fakeclaim given to Squirrel didn't adequately fit his PR and decided against using it (similarly to myself).

-Sully

If you're third party, why would you be given a fakeclaim? Usually if it's not an anti-town role, I wouldn't see the need for a fakeclaim.

[Victor Sullivan]

Kitty no town! Kitty own person! Why you no listen to kitty?


*clears throat* I'd like to address this from a few days ago:

Ok...this seems really weird...I am not buying the whole I can't claim my name thing as that sounds like it would massively hinder the role...but why lie about it? It's possible that mafia don't have fake claims (Mr. Squirrel claimed his real role and as he said Bro could be used for a huge range of Memes so it's hardly disabling) and he's afraid that there may actually be someone else who has the meme he wants to claim.

I was given the fakeclaim of "Musically Oblivious 8th Grader" (if you'll notice my posts from earlier in the game, I tried to incorporate it into my PR, but decided it wasn't worth it and dropped it later). But! I was given no fake role claim. That is to say, I was not given a role tied to the fake name claim. I imagine the fakeclaim given to Squirrel didn't adequately fit his PR and decided against using it (similarly to myself).

-Sully

If you're third party, why would you be given a fakeclaim? Usually if it's not an anti-town role, I wouldn't see the need for a fakeclaim.

*shrugs* I mean, I have the ability to kill people, and I would imagine a SK would be given a fake claim, too, no? I mean, I'm sort of like that in a way... I dunno. I was just given a fake claim.

Kitty no "conform", kitty no "rebel". Both too mainstream. Kitty "be". Kitty do what please. Kitty always fresh.

-Sully

[pancakemix]

Vote Count

slowreactor - 6 (edocsil, chapcrap, dazza2008, Victor, Tails, drake259)

With 20 alive it takes 11 to lynch.

[chapcrap]

Kitty no town! Kitty own person! Why you no listen to kitty?


*clears throat* I'd like to address this from a few days ago:

Ok...this seems really weird...I am not buying the whole I can't claim my name thing as that sounds like it would massively hinder the role...but why lie about it? It's possible that mafia don't have fake claims (Mr. Squirrel claimed his real role and as he said Bro could be used for a huge range of Memes so it's hardly disabling) and he's afraid that there may actually be someone else who has the meme he wants to claim.

I was given the fakeclaim of "Musically Oblivious 8th Grader" (if you'll notice my posts from earlier in the game, I tried to incorporate it into my PR, but decided it wasn't worth it and dropped it later). But! I was given no fake role claim. That is to say, I was not given a role tied to the fake name claim. I imagine the fakeclaim given to Squirrel didn't adequately fit his PR and decided against using it (similarly to myself).

-Sully

If you're third party, why would you be given a fakeclaim? Usually if it's not an anti-town role, I wouldn't see the need for a fakeclaim.

*shrugs* I mean, I have the ability to kill people, and I would imagine a SK would be given a fake claim, too, no? I mean, I'm sort of like that in a way... I dunno. I was just given a fake claim.

Kitty no "conform", kitty no "rebel". Both too mainstream. Kitty "be". Kitty do what please. Kitty always fresh.

-Sully

You have the ability to kill people? When did this happen? Have you killed anyone yet?

Also, you can see that strike is voteless still.

[Victor Sullivan]

I Skitzo, dog.

-Sully

[strike wolf]

I admit at this point I'm a bit confused....

*watches porn for a while so that my mind can take a break*

[edocsil]

I still think Slow is a better choice then Sully for a lynch, but Sully is a bit more...interesting... now. Fortunately we have a third lynch yet today I suggest we finish with Slow one way or another before moving on to Sully.

[TheForgivenOne]

I have to agree, slow as of right now the best choice. The way you are acting isn't all that amazing...betting on Mike Tyson being a spokesperson for Encyclopaedia Britannica is a safer bet than betting on you being town-sided. You can't explain that at all.

[TheForgivenOne]

EBWOP: vote: Slowreactor