Accused:
VicFontaineGrandilofMelogThe accused are suspected of:
Conducting Secret Diplomacy in numerous games over a lengthy period & also for accnt sitting abuse.
Game number(s):
Game 9349711Game 9360449Game 9342024Game 9357808Game 9385199Game 9385149Game 9393486Game 9350693Comments:
These 3 are friends who often play as doubs or trips with each other, and accnt sit for one another but they also set up a lot of 8 player singles games where they seem to have established patterns of play that target other players within the game and not each other, whereby one of them often takes home 100+ points and after reading thru numerous game logs it becomes apparent that their only attacks on each other are to establish bonus regions only. They favour 8 player doubs where VicFontane will partner with someone not involved in the scam and usually on fog settings, then systematically set out to destroy the players not involved. Melog misses turns until eliminated so that Grandilof recieves full bonuses without having to team-mate kill, thereby giving Grandilof in each of these games 10-15 deploy early on in the game as other teams are trying to establish themselves. VicFontaine accnt sits for Melog before his elimination in quite a lot of the games, despite them being a fog of war in which he has a vested interest and is playing on a completely different team. Thereby VicFontaine gets a good look at the map without the disadvantage of fog and subsequentially a massive advantage over every other player. Other players then become mass attacked, and in each of these games they will on average only ever attack each other for 1-2 troops the entire game, after which they have gotten a bonus through, even when one of the 2 left playing becomes a clear leader(Grandilof and VicFontaine, as Melog is generally just a drop out so that Grandilof can gain some easy bonuses to springboard off of) they decline to attack one another and a click on their past games will reveal how often they play as singles in 8 player games which one of them will win as a result of the ongoing secret diplomacy between the 3. Some other dodgy tactics ive noticed:
In speed Game 9385199 : melog and grandiloff play as singles in an assassin game .. grandiloff wins the game in round ONE.
Speed Game 9385149 Round 3: again they play assassin as singles, and melog wins this time in round 3, pocketing 100+ points this time.. and i dont play this setting but the game log is awfully strange.. they get timed out in turns constantly, miss turns and some of the players dont even take a turn the entire first 2 rounds or attempt to. It just seems very odd. But they win these in a very short time, even if there is fog they located their target pretty instantly!
Speed Game 9393486 Round 3: In this game they both lose because someone else killed the wrong assassin and spoilt their plan. But at one point Melog gamechats "someone stop blue or he will destroy green"..guess who green is? grandiloff ..yup :-p
THIS ONES CLASSIC: Game 9360449 .. In a fog doubs 8 player game victontaine plays on one team (again) and melog and grandilof on another, and then vicfontaine logs in and plays a turn for melog !!!!* in a game where he is one of the opponents!! Talk about a grose abuse of a game, he guy gets to see the game without the fog settings - an absolutely massive advantage over everyone else. Also melog misses as always and get chucked at some point afterwards... giving grandilof double the territories of everyone else as they like to do & established bonuses once he inherits melogs abandoned troops. Note in each of these games even once an established lead becomes obvious the two left wont mass attack one another, but the target is always the ppl left.
Game 9357808: another example. Vic joins an 8 player doubs on another team from those 2. at one point its obvious from game log that Vic has a massive lead and is way in front and he is attacking the s*it out of every other player apart from.. Melog and Gandiloffs team.. and when the non cheating players attack Vic hard trying to reduce his lead Gandilof refrains from attacking whatsoever and just stacks and wont attack, yet in other games where one of the 3 isnt winning his strategy is entirely different.
Game 9350693: They play single 8 player hive and grandilof doesnt hit vicfontane cept for a few initial swaps, and in game chat they try to insite vindictive play amongst other players. Not illegal, but amusing. This game is too new to show too much right now, but I think their history speaks for itself.
Game 9342024: AGAIN; in a fog game, Vic again playing in a separate and supposedly opposing team from Melog and Grandilof comes in and account sits on behalf of them! Again in a fog game. Melog quits again and Grandilof gets 40+ territories as a result!!! (would any honest player keep playing doubs with a teammate who just never turned up to any of the games?) Im telling you, its an established cheat pattern that works out vey nicely for all of the 3. They get the bonuses from Melogs quitting, the sunny look at the map and pocket around 100+ points for their efforts. (If you were an honest player would you ask a person playing in one of your fog games as an opponent on another team to come on in and take your turn for you?
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