[UNKNOWN] Mafia Day 5 - The Disappearance [Abandoned]

[DoomYoshi]

I am back While we wait for Vio's claim, I have a response to Target:

That is a nice case, but I don't see why you keep pushing TSL's claim as a joke. If it was a joke, why hasn't TSL said it was a joke? A joke that goes too far and sets you up for an NK would usually be admitted to. Your defense is TSL is very interesting, and has been noted.

[got tonkaed]

Id be willing to say Bleed should be seen as second priority and we should wait until we hear from Violet. You don't get 4 different players asking for action without a legit reason. Lets see where that goes first.

[VioIet]

I am Jacques. I am a town monk cop. I witnessed my brother Henry's (AOG's) death. I saw his murder. I also know the Shadow was after me Night 1, and again tried to strike me again on N2. The Shadow wasn't the only thing that hit me last night though, someone else did too, and I had believed it was strike. I could be wrong. But I am pretty sure that I was a popular target last night.

Both of the night scenes can confirm what I am saying. I am sure that freezie is scum.

And per target's case. FOS Bled. Depending how the freezie thing pans out, we can turn to Bled tomorrow.

[DoomYoshi]

I am Jacques. I am a town monk cop. I witnessed my brother Henry's (AOG's) death. I saw his murder. I also know the Shadow was after me Night 1, and again tried to strike me again on N2. The Shadow wasn't the only thing that hit me last night though, someone else did too, and I had believed it was strike. I could be wrong. But I am pretty sure that I was a popular target last night.

Both of the night scenes can confirm what I am saying. I am sure that freezie is scum.

And per target's case. FOS Bled. Depending how the freezie thing pans out, we can turn to Bled tomorrow.

How is it that you have all this information? Do you have abilities that allow you to know who targets you?

Also, what made you believe the Shadow is Strike? There must have been something that caused you to feel this way.

Finally, where did the Freezie info come in? Did you actually watch Freezie kill AoG?

[strike wolf]

Count Roland was riding back on his horse back to the castle. As of recently, he did not like the days at all anymore, but this was a breezy night and after big work tonight, he was happy that he accomplished so much. “Hah, Oliphant’s horn my ass. They never suspected a thing” he threw away the horn as he was riding upwards. “I’m sure the master will be very pleased – none of them have any idea of what I am… But they will!”
“World, you are mine for the taking – the whole village is a kitty just waiting to be pet”


Sometimes it is better not to throw away the most useful things.

Suddenly, he remembered a very important detail – he never took away the insignia! Jacques didn’t worry at all, however – he loved himself way too much to ever admit a mistake or… What is even worse: spend time with people he considered fools. He quickly turned his horse and rode back town. As soon as he entered, he felt that something was not right. Jacques gracefully landed from horse, sensing that time was of the essence and that he could not waste anything this time around. He went into the so called Roland’s house, got the insignia and went back to the street, but he suddenly found himself in a middle of big crowd.
“Quickly, Roland, you must come with us – we’ve a seen a great big white taking another victim. Lead us!”
“We know you are our hero – one who could never betray us.”
Some people in the crowd, however, did not like the knight:
“People, you have to understand – he has been much paler than usual and he doesn’t look much like a true Frank knight either. He is hiding something!”


Even the greatest of heroes… May be not quite the heroes that everyone thinks they are.

In the midst of the crowd, however, Jacques could not get out of people and head back to his castle. He knew that there was not much time, but he also knew it could never end like this. He knew that his friends would never abandon him. He jumped on a horse which was right by him and yelled:
“Silence!”
That quickly got everyone’s attention and even the bells of the Gothic Church stopped ringing.
“My fellow villagers! Fear not – I will stop the great white one myself. Let me just blow the horn to call him on a duel!”
He raised his hand lower, down to the saddle – but there was nothing! Jacques panicked a bit, but he just looked at the very familiar figure with a question in his eyes, but the answer that he could read from the lips was not the one he was expecting: “Die you fucking traitor!” Something hit Jacques cold black heart like a cold iron dagger…
“People, time is of the essence – let me go through!”
The crowd, however, still had many questions and Roland, hero of the village, could not get through. Just as the fate was drawing near and whispered: “Why… My master?.. Why would you abandon me after picking me as your servant..”

Rodion, Jacques Chevalier - Vampirized Knights Templar Marshal, has been lynched on Day 2.


Sometimes it's not quite as romantic as it may seem.

Somewhere else, by a freshly dug out grave, a young girl was sobbing. She could not believe that her dream, her family, her lover – were all gone. She had no reason to live anymore and any leftovers of the will in her body were dying… Until she realized that there was just one more thing that had to be done. She slowly risen and pushed herself to go to the town.

Night 2 begin. All of your actions are due at Friday night/Saturday morning.

People may want to take a look at rodion's character name.

vote vio

[Talapus]

I am Jacques. I am a town monk cop. I witnessed my brother Henry's (AOG's) death. I saw his murder. I also know the Shadow was after me Night 1, and again tried to strike me again on N2. The Shadow wasn't the only thing that hit me last night though, someone else did too, and I had believed it was strike. I could be wrong. But I am pretty sure that I was a popular target last night.

Both of the night scenes can confirm what I am saying. I am sure that freezie is scum.

And per target's case. FOS Bled. Depending how the freezie thing pans out, we can turn to Bled tomorrow.

How is it that you have all this information? Do you have abilities that allow you to know who targets you?

Also, what made you believe the Shadow is Strike? There must have been something that caused you to feel this way.

Finally, where did the Freezie info come in? Did you actually watch Freezie kill AoG?

All good questions to which I would love to see some solid answers from you Vio. Also, strike makes an interesting point. That name seems awfully damn common so soon or you are scum and lying.

[Rodion]

It's painful to watch that again, Strike!

Must say, however, I really enjoyed Commander's storytelling (except for the part where I died, of course).

[VioIet]

Made a mistake here.

EDBWOP

I am Brother Cadfael. I am a town monk cop. I witnessed my brother Henry's (AOG's) death. I saw his murder. I also know the Shadow was after me Night 1, and again tried to strike me again on N2. The Shadow wasn't the only thing that hit me last night though, someone else did too, and I had believed it was strike. I could be wrong. But I am pretty sure that I was a popular target last night.

Both of the night scenes can confirm what I am saying. I am sure that freezie is scum.

And per target's case. FOS Bled. Depending how the freezie thing pans out, we can turn to Bled tomorrow.

I just re-checked my role pm. I thought i was Jacques, but I am Brother Cadfael. I know that mess-up looks extremely scummy

I got my roles/games mixed up, because I know for sure that I was Jacques in another game.

[Bleed_Green]

based on how well Rodin faked claimed i could total see this as an option and could be vampire,scum or anything anti town.

If I was scum in any way why would Rodion be pursuing me so hard to have me lynched if I was apart of his fraction?

[Talapus]

Made a mistake here.

EDBWOP

I am Brother Cadfael. I am a town monk cop. I witnessed my brother Henry's (AOG's) death. I saw his murder. I also know the Shadow was after me Night 1, and again tried to strike me again on N2. The Shadow wasn't the only thing that hit me last night though, someone else did too, and I had believed it was strike. I could be wrong. But I am pretty sure that I was a popular target last night.

Both of the night scenes can confirm what I am saying. I am sure that freezie is scum.

And per target's case. FOS Bled. Depending how the freezie thing pans out, we can turn to Bled tomorrow.

I just re-checked my role pm. I thought i was Jacques, but I am Brother Cadfael. I know that mess-up looks extremely scummy

I got my roles/games mixed up, because I know for sure that I was Jacques in another game.

That answers that, but please answer the rest of Doom's questions.

[strike wolf]

Still not buying the claim. It was worded quite clearly like you meant Jacques Chevalier as you claimed first but changed it to the next name down the list when caught in the lie.

[safariguy5]

based on how well Rodin faked claimed i could total see this as an option and could be vampire,scum or anything anti town.

If I was scum in any way why would Rodion be pursuing me so hard to have me lynched if I was apart of his fraction?

Multiple scum factions means that he could still pressure you and you might not be in his faction but a different one.

Also, it's a WIFOM argument to say he wouldn't pressure you if you were in his faction.

[VioIet]

How is it that you have all this information? Do you have abilities that allow you to know who targets you?

Also, what made you believe the Shadow is Strike? There must have been something that caused you to feel this way.

Finally, where did the Freezie info come in? Did you actually watch Freezie kill AoG?

Night 1, I investigated freezie. I got a guilty result. I didn't want to say this outright, because I didn't want to give up my cover so soon. I instead wanted to look for scummy things that freezie said, and call them out- so that he would look suspicious. Then there was the whole Rodion thing.

At the end of Day 2, Strike told someone to kill me during the night. Someone followed his advice. I originally believed it to be Strike himself, but now i guess it must have been someone else. I also believe this was the second time I was targeted for a kill. Fortunately for me, I'm hard to kill. I'll leave it at that.

I also attempted to investigated strike last night, but i got blocked. That is also how i know that I was targeted by more than one person. That is also why i was mad at strike for telling someone to kill me, without having any idea what my role was.

Commander is the type of mod that puts a lot of information into his scenes. I did the same in San Francisco and Clue. I read them carefully to fill in the gaps, in addition to the information i received at night.

[edocsil]

You made too large a leap this time I think. I don't think Freezie killed your brother D1. That being said if you got a guilty on him I am willing to hang him. You will likely follow if you are wrong, but that's the game we play.

I would ask the others to give her a break on this one. If she is telling the truth she is valuable and we cannot afford to hang her. I am not claiming that her story checks out with me but that we should keep her till we have something more conclusive.

Unvote Vote Freezie

[strike wolf]

If vio can give an excellent reason (and it would have to be excellent) I also doubt freezie for reasons dealing with his behavior and edoc is right lynching a claimed cop is risky.

[Iliad]

Vio's claim is very suspect, though Cadfael was in the scene and so far hasn't been counter-claimed.

I'm a bit perplexed why Vio wuold keep a scum result quiet. Unless you have doubts about your sanity cops usually come out once they found a scum

Unvote vote freezie.

Having said that if freezie is town, someone vig vio.

[ShaggyDan]

Vote Freezie

Pretty straight-forward. Claimed cop which is a confirmed character in the game (from the night scene) and doesn't look like a werewolf or vampire or a shadow.

If there are any bus-drivers out there that moved freezie around night one, or any one who wants to counter claim the character there is still time (you should do it ASAP if this is the case). Other than that; go with the guilty result.

[DoomYoshi]

I'm a bit perplexed why Vio wuold keep a scum result quiet. Unless you have doubts about your sanity cops usually come out once they found a scum

I disagree with this, as you are not sure there is a sane doctor. However, that is a discussion for another thread.

unvote vote Freezie

[safariguy5]

I'm a bit perplexed why Vio wuold keep a scum result quiet. Unless you have doubts about your sanity cops usually come out once they found a scum

I disagree with this, as you are not sure there is a sane doctor. However, that is a discussion for another thread.

unvote vote Freezie

Game this size, there should be a sane doctor.

[freezie]

So, vio calls our for strike as a roleblocker, tells everyone she KNOWS I have killed 2 people, then come out with a guilty result? Sorry, but I am not falling for that. She has been caught in a few many lies now.

A watcher/tracker that has targetted me would know I went nowhere since the beggining of the game. Vio is lying..95% sure of it.

Other 5% is reserved in case

[freezie]

Alright, I've been thinking this trought a little, I would like to hear from Vio why she beleives I have been involved in these 2 deaths. I haven't, and that ( alongside Strike's wrong claim from Vio ) is why I beleive she is outright lying. However, In case she isn't, I do have an idea ( remember the 5% ) why she could have gotten a guilty result on me, however it's obscure.

So, I want to know why you beleive I was involved first.

[Iliad]

Made a mistake here.

EDBWOP

I am Brother Cadfael. I am a town monk cop. I witnessed my brother Henry's (AOG's) death. I saw his murder. I also know the Shadow was after me Night 1, and again tried to strike me again on N2. The Shadow wasn't the only thing that hit me last night though, someone else did too, and I had believed it was strike. I could be wrong. But I am pretty sure that I was a popular target last night.

Both of the night scenes can confirm what I am saying. I am sure that freezie is scum.

And per target's case. FOS Bled. Depending how the freezie thing pans out, we can turn to Bled tomorrow.

I just re-checked my role pm. I thought i was Jacques, but I am Brother Cadfael. I know that mess-up looks extremely scummy

I got my roles/games mixed up, because I know for sure that I was Jacques in another game.

Firstly: By brother to Henry, do you mean actual brother which you tried to claim before before being counter-claimed by a corpse or religious organisation brother? If latter are you part of Henry's faction then: the Knight Templars or are you just a monk?
Secondly, don't know if you're lying or misguided but the Shadow definitely had nothing to do with you night 1

Godfrey de Saint-Omer had just finished writing his mail towards his family... It was a goodbye letter. "It was not easy... But I am fully committed to the cause.. The Grand Master of the Knights Templar fully trusts me and I have to repay his faith. We are here to help cleanse the world from evil and I shall not fail!" Godfrey put down his feather and leaned back on his chair... When he heard a blade coming right down on him. Just as it was about to slash his throat, Henry Chevalier pushed him out of his chair.
"Run, my Sire. I'll hold him off!"
Godfrey didn't wait a minute and broke off the door, but this time he did not lose his awareness... But a shadow was still right behind him... Waiting...
Henry Chevalier was exstatic that he just saved his Knights Templar Seneschal and even he survived. Right with that thought a bolt from a crossbow went straight through his neck and came out behind the wall. Henry, drowning in his blood, thought that at least he did something meaningful today.

Army of God, Henry Chevalier - Monk of Knights Templar, has been killed on Night 1.

Thirdly: That is still a very wrong way to play cop. Even in a game like this it's better to out a mafia member and out yourself, as the risk of dying without revealing your investigations is significant. Also if you do have a scum result, do not try and find meaningless dirt on them. That only makes it look less believable when you do claim cop and that freezie is scum, and makes it appear like you're a fake-claiming lyncher.

[got tonkaed]

C is for cookie, good enough for me.

I do feel it is strange for Violet to have made as many quick little mistakes as there seems to have been, but having said that, there is no counterclaim and it would seem the cop outed a baddie.

Id be interested in hearing why exactly we should keep around freezie if this is the case.

[strike wolf]

I really hate these scenarios...I really distrust vio as it really does sound like she meant to claim Jacques Chevalier (I am a bit skeptical of her claim that she is a Jacques in another game) as it really sounds from her original claim. It is still a bit early to say that she won't be counter claimed on this claim but as my activity will be low today and possibly tomorrow for my standards I am going to go ahead and unvote vio and spend most of the time I have reading back through freezie's posts just to see if I can't get my own opinion. For the record vio please don't jump to conclusions about whom might have blocked you or taken upon any actions against you or others without proper evidence.

[edocsil]

I really hate these scenarios...I really distrust vio as it really does sound like she meant to claim Jacques Chevalier (I am a bit skeptical of her claim that she is a Jacques in another game) as it really sounds from her original claim. It is still a bit early to say that she won't be counter claimed on this claim but as my activity will be low today and possibly tomorrow for my standards I am going to go ahead and unvote vio and spend most of the time I have reading back through freezie's posts just to see if I can't get my own opinion. For the record vio please don't jump to conclusions about whom might have blocked you or taken upon any actions against you or others without proper evidence.

Wth strike? You really saying you want to hang a claimed cop? FOS